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:bplease: so called priest king and modh baniya?!
perhaps you're mixing so called father of the nation's caste with so called priest king's here...

he's clearly a ghanchi or teli by caste, basically a V4, and since OBC list is a state-thing, his caste got into OBC list here during reign of former CM Chimanbhai Patel who also hailed from Janata Dal, the predecessor of current day BJP here, so that's there too

modh prefix means from Modhera, means a northern gujju or by a large extension, a southie rajasthani
Ah , yes ! My mistake . But ghanchis have quite a reputation for being mean too .
 
Ah , yes ! My mistake . But ghanchis have quite a reputation for being mean too .
well yes, though out of scope for this thread here,
if you happen to know that feud between Dasana Mandir's Yati Narasinghanand and so called priest king, he often criticises his ghanchi/teli origins because said caste's also somewhat present among the peacefuls and Yati suspects him of conspiring with his 'jaati bhais' over things 🤷‍♂️
 
I read news that claimed that the remaining budget was spent in the final months by procuring indigenous gears on a war footing. Some articles predict something similar this year too. Will have to look it up.

yes they did, same as year before.

in Mar 2024..

39000 cr
8073 cr
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2014340

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2014345
2890 cr
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2015025

+ took delivery of some items/projects (i am assuming invoice will be raised for this fiscal paid for next fiscal)
 
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:bplease: so called priest king and modh baniya?!
perhaps you're mixing so called father of the nation's caste with so called priest king's here...

he's clearly a ghanchi or teli by caste, basically a V4, and since OBC list is a state-thing, his caste got into OBC list here during reign of former CM Chimanbhai Patel who also hailed from Janata Dal, the predecessor of current day BJP here, so that's there too

modh prefix means from Modhera, means a northern gujju or by a large extension, a southie rajasthani

Sen. Whitehouse: Mark my words. This Patel guy will come back to haunt you. Every piece of evidence shows that. ;)


View: https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/1890062393285464067
 
Hain ?! Yeh kaisa ashleel baatein dekhne ko mil raha hain tumse baalak ? Aur hum sab yahan samajh rahe the tum ek sanskari baalak ho !!
Mai sanskari hu sir, maine bas ek famous web series se ek dialogue ko quote kiya hai.
Web series ka naam shayad panchayt hai , mai galat bhi ho sakta hu.
 
yes they did, same as year before.

in Mar 2024..

39000 cr
8073 cr
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2014340

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2014345
2890 cr
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2015025

+ took delivery of some items/projects (i am assuming invoice will be raised for this fiscal paid for next fiscal)
Is RD-33 fully indianize?? If yes can't be used for TeJas with minimal changes
 

'Something big is coming at us,' says Jaishankar. What could that be?​


Referring to the Donald Trump administration in the United States, External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar has said that ‘something big is coming at us’ that will reshape the world order​



View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1891335134424490359


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Is he hinting at F35 or a QUAD with teeth & laws, maybe both?
 

'Something big is coming at us,' says Jaishankar. What could that be?​


Referring to the Donald Trump administration in the United States, External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar has said that ‘something big is coming at us’ that will reshape the world order​



View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1891335134424490359


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Is he hinting at F35 or a QUAD with teeth & laws, maybe both?

Both F35 and quad becoming usefull is a distant dream, modi made the tour hoping they don't stop the engine delivery
 

'Something big is coming at us,' says Jaishankar. What could that be?​


Referring to the Donald Trump administration in the United States, External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar has said that ‘something big is coming at us’ that will reshape the world order​



View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1891335134424490359


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Is he hinting at F35 or a QUAD with teeth & laws, maybe both?


Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs.
 
I think Tesla will finally make way into India.
Some context,
- Tweet says only luxury cars, suits Tesla.
- Musk is expected to meet Modi this week.
- Tesla deliveries fell in the last earnings and so he will want to expand.
- China imposed tariffs on US vehicles last week which will impact Tesla.
- Allowing Tesla market access will soften tariff war more as Musk is Trump’s bro.

Overall, I wouldn’t mind Tesla into India as long as there are still some tariffs on it that wouldn’t severely impact our auto industry.

It would also be a wake up call for our industry to stop slacking and innovate harder/faster than take the market for granted and rely on tariffs to counter foreign competition.

In the long run if played well, GoI can develop leverage over Musk just like how China did.

Starlink should not be allowed though under any circumstances.
Looks like Tesla is coming to India.
Some thoughts,
- The sub 30k car is in the works for India and other similar markets.
- Probably a gig factory for this model and model3 along with parts ecosystem will be a precondition for tariffs discount (same deal as earlier ) not just for Indian market but for export to foreign markets while the Chinese factory can focus on higher end models.
- Tesla prices came down significantly already (compared to 2 yrs ago, about $12k-20k discount based on model) and I wouldn’t be surprised if the prices come down even more later.

Let’s see how this pans out.


View: https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1891684633068163253?s=46
 
Looks like Tesla is coming to India.
Some thoughts,
- The sub 30k car is in the works for India and other similar markets.
- Probably a gig factory for this model and model3 along with parts ecosystem will be a precondition for tariffs discount (same deal as earlier ) not just for Indian market but for export to foreign markets while the Chinese factory can focus on higher end models.
- Tesla prices came down significantly already (compared to 2 yrs ago, about $12k-20k discount based on model) and I wouldn’t be surprised if the prices come down even more later.

Let’s see how this pans out.


View: https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1891684633068163253?s=46

surprised that tata, mahindra and other auto lobby hasn't made a storm about it. below 30 lakhs model might actually sell quite good.
 
surprised that tata, mahindra and other auto lobby hasn't made a storm about it. below 30 lakhs model might actually sell quite good.

Depends.
At 30L, you get some really great SUV's in India with nice options.

Tesla at it's smaller size would be competing with larger vehicles are similar price in India.
 
surprised that tata, mahindra and other auto lobby hasn't made a storm about it. below 30 lakhs model might actually sell quite good.
Tata, Mahindra need to continue their Business with OOASSAAA. Given Mush is virtually the acting vice president - they shall protest but silently and indirectly via lobbying. Also Both Tata and Mahindra have vehicles which pretty much compete if not outcompete with whatever Tesla is cooking under 30. Tesla has good Software(Auto Pilot whatevaaa) but that is for the Disciplined Road Traffic of the world. In India only ADAS Level 2 works somewhat. And truly next gen AI based Autonomous Drive is something what teams like Swaayat are currently working on in India.
 
Looks like Tesla is coming to India.
Some thoughts,
- The sub 30k car is in the works for India and other similar markets.
- Probably a gig factory for this model and model3 along with parts ecosystem will be a precondition for tariffs discount (same deal as earlier ) not just for Indian market but for export to foreign markets while the Chinese factory can focus on higher end models.
- Tesla prices came down significantly already (compared to 2 yrs ago, about $12k-20k discount based on model) and I wouldn’t be surprised if the prices come down even more later.

Let’s see how this pans out.


View: https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1891684633068163253?s=46

Elon confirmed some time back in their shareholder meeting that they are not working on any sub $30K car currently. They have rented offices in India since 3-4 years now. They have been hiring for resources too since last 3-4 years most probably to outsource their software division.

Their current line up makes no use case for Market like India:​

ModelBody StyleApproximate Price Range (USD)Approximate Price Range (INR)Key Features
Model SSedan$75,000 - $100,000+₹60,00,000 - ₹80,00,000+High performance, long range, luxurious interior
Model XSUV$80,000 - $110,000+₹64,00,000 - ₹88,00,000+Spacious, unique falcon wing doors, available 7-seater
Model 3Sedan$40,000 - $60,000+₹32,00,000 - ₹48,00,000+Popular, sporty, good balance of range and affordability
Model YSUV$45,000 - $70,000+₹36,00,000 - ₹56,00,000+Crossover, more cargo space than Model 3, optional 7-seater
CybertruckPickup Truck$60,000 - $100,000+ (estimated)₹48,00,000 - ₹80,00,000+ (estimated)Futuristic design, rugged, high performance (production just starting)
SemiTruck(Pricing not publicly available)(Pricing not publicly available)Electric semi-truck for commercial use

Setting up a Gigafactory again makes no sense when they have one in Shanghai already and which is struggling to maintain sales in much bigger Chinese market.​
 
Elon confirmed some time back in their shareholder meeting that they are not working on any sub $30K car currently. They have rented offices in India since 3-4 years now. They have been hiring for resources too since last 3-4 years most probably to outsource their software division.

Their current line up makes no use case for Market like India:​

ModelBody StyleApproximate Price Range (USD)Approximate Price Range (INR)Key Features
Model SSedan$75,000 - $100,000+₹60,00,000 - ₹80,00,000+High performance, long range, luxurious interior
Model XSUV$80,000 - $110,000+₹64,00,000 - ₹88,00,000+Spacious, unique falcon wing doors, available 7-seater
Model 3Sedan$40,000 - $60,000+₹32,00,000 - ₹48,00,000+Popular, sporty, good balance of range and affordability
Model YSUV$45,000 - $70,000+₹36,00,000 - ₹56,00,000+Crossover, more cargo space than Model 3, optional 7-seater
CybertruckPickup Truck$60,000 - $100,000+ (estimated)₹48,00,000 - ₹80,00,000+ (estimated)Futuristic design, rugged, high performance (production just starting)
SemiTruck(Pricing not publicly available)(Pricing not publicly available)Electric semi-truck for commercial use

Setting up a Gigafactory again makes no sense when they have one in Shanghai already and which is struggling to maintain sales in much bigger Chinese market.​
See the job description? Its front desk job in showroom.
 
Looks like Tesla is coming to India.
Some thoughts,
- The sub 30k car is in the works for India and other similar markets.
- Probably a gig factory for this model and model3 along with parts ecosystem will be a precondition for tariffs discount (same deal as earlier ) not just for Indian market but for export to foreign markets while the Chinese factory can focus on higher end models.
- Tesla prices came down significantly already (compared to 2 yrs ago, about $12k-20k discount based on model) and I wouldn’t be surprised if the prices come down even more later.

Let’s see how this pans out.


View: https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1891684633068163253?s=46


Tesla does this drama every year. Last year too, they were posting job openings in India. Not to forget, there is still a 70% import tariff.
 
See the job description? Its front desk job in showroom.
Where is the showroom? Which car has been homologized in India so far?

I see conflicting reports on whether they are producing RHD cars or not. One report says that they cancelled their plan to produce RHD cars few months back which were supposed to be produced in their German Plant.

Another report says they secretly started production of RHD cars for Indian market few months back.

Now if they really want to sell a RHD model in India then it would CBU and will attract high import duties. I don't know how much relaxation is there for CBU EVs.​
 

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