Döner Kebab Republic of Turkey: Idiotic Musings

[haldilal]

 

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WDTP

 

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Wonder who's collaborating with them for this development ? It makes Turkey the 3rd Islamic country to possess IRBMs after Paxtan & Iran .

While both Paxtan & Iran got their tech from PRC & DPRK which should tell you a tale on the quality of their technology , I wouldn't put Turkey in the same category for they've something which the other 2 lack namely - depth of industry & access to western systems.

Not a good development from our PoV.

 

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WDTP

This is what the Turkroach said -

 

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@haldilal phle wala naam idiotic kebab musing of turkey naam jyada badhiya tha

 

[FalconSlayers]

Wonder who's collaborating with them for this development ? It makes Turkey the 3rd Islamic country to possess IRBMs after Paxtan & Iran .

While both Paxtan & Iran got their tech from PRC & DPRK which should tell you a tale on the quality of their technology , I wouldn't put Turkey in the same category for they've something which the other 2 lack namely - depth of industry & access to western systems.

Not a good development from our PoV.

That's their SLV programme, not IRBM one.

 

[bong]

This is what the Turkroach said -

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55000 roaches.

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[Azaad]

That's their SLV programme, not IRBM one.

Yes I know but once you've developed such space technology it's not a great leap into missile tech much like we transitioned from SLV to Agni.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Yes I know but once you've developed such space technology it's not a great leap into missile tech much like we transitioned from SLV to Agni.

Cute of you to think they're reaching the low earth orbit at all

 

[Azaad]

Cute of you to think they're reaching the low earth orbit at all

I wouldn't take them lightly if I were you . Some of their achievements are vapourware not all of them. A good many of their projects are really commendable for what they've achieved.

Besides the scope of their ambitions are breath taking. Even if they achieve half of it , in my book it's a huge deal. Both RoK & Turkiye are coming out with very good products.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Even sub-Saharan viswacoolies like us have managed notable achievements, groundbreaking papers, and inventions post-independence.

India is anything but sub-saharan.

 

[Azaad]

In space, you can't rely on chamchagiri like ToTs or importing foreign workers. It's a high-investment, high lead-time field that demands decades of experience and a well-established ecosystem. Without genuine, rigorous R&D, it’s difficult to establish a significant presence. Frankly, mentioning RoK and Turkey in the same sentence does a disservice to the former.

In another context, I wonder why there are no prominent scientists or engineers from this country in any field. In my field of heavy electricals, not a single paper or author comes from this country. Even sub-Saharan viswacoolies like us have managed notable achievements, groundbreaking papers, and inventions post-independence.

It's quite evident they're getting outside assistance which I mentioned in my very first post in this thread. They must also be getting very skilled professionals from other countries at high salaries to work with them . Evidently the powers that be are turning a blind eye.

As far as not mentioning RoK & Turkiye in the same sentence goes , Deng Xiaoping once remarked on market reforms - a totally capitalist move carried out by the CCP a communist party dedicated to socialism - What does it matter if the cat is black or white if it catches mice ?

At the end of the day outcomes matter not the methodologies employed. Yahan chamatkar ko namaskar hain..

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

I wouldn't take them lightly if I were you . Some of their achievements are vapourware not all of them. A good many of their projects are really commendable for what they've achieved.

Besides the scope of their ambitions are breath taking. Even if they achieve half of it , in my book it's a huge deal. Both RoK & Turkiye are coming out with very good products.

well europe, japan, korea etc also did magnificent work in science, technology nd weapon building. u can say far better than turkey nd india....yet they r not ahead of india (ISRO) in space. only thing where europe is ahead of ISRO is heavier launching pads (if i m not wrong). so dont be sure on turkey in space program.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

At the end of the day outcomes matter not the methodologies employed. Yahan chamatkar ko namaskar hain..

Room for chamatkar is there in a quick projects requiring limited plants and production lines. An appropriate space program requires massive infra and eco system which won't appear with Chamatkar. It in any case, will take decades. And for the case of Turkey where budget are constrained and when existing space great powers are moving to next levels of space exploration; setting up stations and bases in outerspace, no Turkey won't be significant unless it joins an international space programme.

only thing where europe is ahead of ISRO is heavier launching pads (if i m not wrong).

You are wrong.

ESA only comes next to NASA when comes to space capabilities and easily supersede Russia, China, India and Japan.

Not having landed on Moon or independent human spaceflight is a choice and not a limitation of ESA given their exisiting robotech. They chose not to repeat NASA missions since western world anyway shares knowledge within and went with more sophisticated robotic missions in deep space where limited research was done.

Mercury, Outerplanets and their Moons and asteroids.

 

[Azaad]

Room for chamatkar is there in a quick projects requiring limited plants and production lines. An appropriate space program requires massive infra and eco system which won't appear with Chamatkar. It in any case, will take decades. And for the case of Turkey where budget are constrained and when existing space great powers are moving to next levels of space exploration; setting up stations and bases in outerspace, no Turkey won't be significant unless it joins an international space programme.

All I'm saying is we ought to keep our eyes open & watch out for them & their activities for it will have repercussions in our neighborhood.

They've racked up some impressive achievements. They're also indulging in quite a bit of propaganda.

As far as their ambitions in space go & its realisation , it's not easy but then given Turkey's track record when exactly have they relied solely on back breaking Indigenization programs ? They've always piggy backed on foreign endeavours & they've thrown money to get such foreign tech.

The single biggest source of such encouragement & finance is Erdogan himself . If I'm not mistaken most of these programs are run by his family members .

 

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Turkroaches, who's entire species can be at the verge of extinction with a press of a few buttons at the Wheeler Island think they can checkmate us with their failed state friends and their mehmet toys

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

Turkroaches, who's entire species can be at the verge of extinction with a press of a few buttons in New Delhi think they can checkmate us with their failed state friends and their mehmet toys
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huh...farzi abba jaan of paki nd kanglu is more dumber than their naajayaz aullade. there good for nothing TB2 drones is least concern for india from both sides. houthi rebels were downed much better drones like american predator nd they think their average TB2 can do miracle against india.

 

[Azaad]

Room for chamatkar is there in a quick projects requiring limited plants and production lines. An appropriate space program requires massive infra and eco system which won't appear with Chamatkar. It in any case, will take decades. And for the case of Turkey where budget are constrained and when existing space great powers are moving to next levels of space exploration; setting up stations and bases in outerspace, no Turkey won't be significant unless it joins an international space programme.

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DeltaV contributes to Turkiye’s Advanced Ballistic Missile Capabilities with SORS Rocket Innovations

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You are wrong.

ESA only comes next to NASA when comes to space capabilities and easily supersede Russia, China, India and Japan.

Not having landed on Moon or independent human spaceflight is a choice and not a limitation of ESA given their exisiting robotech. They chose not to repeat NASA missions since western world anyway shares knowledge within and went with more sophisticated robotic missions in deep space where limited research was done.

Mercury, Outerplanets and their Moons and asteroids.

Btw they're already sending spy satellites to LEO. The first one was ~ 600 kms LEO & they're just another one slightly below the previous range .