Indian Special Forces

Baseplate said:
Rant : (if the almighties are reading this ....... please do something ..)

Looking cool matters , photo ops matter , quality propaganda through media matter , even though a lot of vets say that "they" are doing it to look cool its needed a lot more than the "feeling proud indian army" or "how is the josh " .

Recently i saw a post ridiculing Indian military with the idiotic parade videos of bike stunts and it got more than a dozen thousand likes along with the standard racist comments .
. This makes me wonder about the optics that our military had not only in the eyes of the nation but most importantly on the world .

Most don't know anything about our SF we never advertise , we never work on looks or aesthetics all we do is "how's the josh" . We think keeping the org in dark will build an aura of mystery around them , it doesn't it makes it worse when someone googles about them and what comes up is horrid images with substandard equipment .
We are not doing jaw breaking operations like the SAS on foreign soil that will build their name least we can do is make them look cool . Most think they are just some other so called "SPECIAL FORCES" like the other 3rd world countries who can't do shit .

No one knows them coz they never advertise , no one knows what ops they have done coz we never speak/write about them or publish combat footages , no one knows what equipment they have( except the shit we see) thus no one respects them .

If just posting equipment breakdown (which is most of the times the most basic shit) from images available in open is a breach in opsec then idk what posting reels from bases are.

Some will say army's job is to serve and protect to be combat effective not to look cool . but looking cool is also just as important in these times

You don't look cool/do cool shit people won't talk or know about you , they won't read/research about your pov/experience about the conflicts in kashmir/NE while the standard news articles , books , videos calling you war criminals will keep on being published and read by thousands and you will constantly loose the game and loose your edge on military diplomacy . This cycle continues and your Noble org (one of the most effective in the world) will be nothing more than a 3rd world military in the eyes of the world ......
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Everyone is doing operations of the kind Para SF does..We have just bloated their achievements after surgical strikes.

Filipino SF also saw a lot of combat..Russians see 10 times the combat of 9 para while upgrading their gear each year…Iraqi SF is also quite active.

Being in combat is no excuse to not upgrade.

Most of the officers who say Lux cozi aram ka mamla he have no idea how stupid they sound…But what idea does our gawar junta have?

A major from Para SF who went abroad told me how other SF like Seals and SAS look down upon Indian SF and only look at our discipline as the only good thing in our military.

And why are you so offended by the BSF motorcycle circus being potrayed as the condition of Indian Army..it indeed is.

NSG once shot a photo with OOltaa optics..most high calibre guns have the smallest optics if any at all to fight in mountains…a admin here was educating me one day about Patka being light and the best choice for combat in a recent op.

This is out condition…Go google Malayasian SF and see what modernisation is about..Forget about Germans and Isralies you will be shocked.


We DO NOT have the calibre of Army we think we have…We just dont like accepting it.
 

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHEHzGsbM8I&t=153s

This explains why so many UKSF books are just about the 1940s, 60s, 70s but mostly 80s and early 90s.
Since 1996 every UKSF member was made to sign a confidentiality agreement. This is why authors you see from then point on like Phil Campion, Jason Fox, Nims Purja, Ant Middleton, Dean Stott and Ollie Ollerton who have written their books have mostly written about their time doing adventure activies, as TV hosts or contracting...nothing much about the SAS/SBS or UKSF

But people before that...wrote extensivly like SEALs write today...they wrote life inside the regiment, life before and after...etc
 
jaijaganath said:
When will they leave Soviet style firing stance
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VictorDelta4 said:
Are they still fine with the chicken wing during weapons training?
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There is no one way to fire all rifles at all times. For a static shooting position for getting some range time, this isn't a bad stance. The knees bent, scrunched forward stance is high on fatigue, best saved for more dynamic training regimes.

Also, you can't go C-clamping a barebones AK like this one (not that NSG knows C-clamping, but case in point) as your thumb would block the front sight. Need to have an optic to even consider C clamp on an AK.
 
darkindie said:
leaving modernization and standardization aside(which is subject to budget and bureaucracy), it seems military has gone borderline radio silent or the leadership is succumbing to internal politics/pressure. We don't see a personality like Gen Narvane or Gen Bipin Rawat.
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Over the last 15 years or so, only Gens VKS, & Rawat have espoused some confidence. All the others, including the present one, seem to be weaklings.
 
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