Russian Ukrainian War

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Ukraine’s exhausted troops in Russia told to cling on and wait for Trump​

23 hours ago
Paul Adams
BBC diplomatic correspondent
Reporting fromKyiv
Ukrainian soldiers say they've been ordered to hang onto territory in Kursk region until Trump takes office, with new policies, in January
The tone is dark, even angry.

“The situation is getting worse every day.”

“We don’t see the goal. Our land is not here.”

Almost four months after Ukrainian troops launched a lightning offensive into the Russian region of Kursk, text messages from soldiers fighting there paint a dismal picture of a battle they don’t properly understand and fear they might be losing.

We’ve been in contact, via Telegram, with several soldiers serving in Kursk, one of whom has recently left. We’ve agreed not to identify any of them.

None of the names in this article are real.

They speak of dire weather conditions and a chronic lack of sleep caused by Russia’s constant bombardment, which includes the use of terrifying, 3,000kg glide bombs.

They’re also in retreat, with Russian forces gradually retaking territory.

“This trend will continue,” Pavlo wrote on 26 November. “It’s only a matter of time.”
They are under immense pressure in Kursk, under constant Russian bombardment
Pavlo spoke of immense fatigue, the lack of rotation and the arrival of units, made up largely of middle-aged men, brought directly from other fronts with little or no time to rest in between.

To hear soldiers complain - about their commanding officers, orders and lack of equipment - is hardly unusual. It’s what soldiers often do in difficult circumstances.

Under immense pressure from the enemy and with winter setting in, it would be surprising to hear much optimism.

But the messages we’ve received are almost uniformly bleak, suggesting that motivation is a problem.

Some questioned whether one of the operation’s initial goals - to divert Russian soldiers from Ukraine’s eastern front - had worked.

The orders now, they said, were to hang onto this small sliver of Russian territory until a new US president, with new policies, arrives in the White House at the end of January.

“The main task facing us is to hold the maximum territory until Trump’s inauguration and the start of negotiations,” Pavlo said. “In order to exchange it for something later. No-one knows what.”
Towards the end of November, President Zelensky indicated that both sides had the change of US administration in mind.

“I am sure that he [Putin] wants to push us out by 20 January,” he said.

“It is very important for him to demonstrate that he controls the situation. But he does not control the situation.”

In an effort to help Ukraine thwart Russian counterattacks in Kursk, the US, UK and France have all permitted Kyiv to use long-range weapons on targets inside Russia.

It doesn’t seem to have done much to lift spirits.

“No-one sits in a cold trench and prays for missiles,” Pavlo said.

“We live and fight here and now. And missiles fly somewhere else.”

Atacms and Storm Shadow missiles may have been used to powerful, even devastating, effect on distant command posts and ammunition dumps, but such successes seem remote to soldiers on the front lines.

“We don’t talk about missiles,” Myroslav said. “In the bunkers we talk about family and rotation. About simple things.”

For Ukraine, Russia’s slow, grinding advance in eastern Ukraine underlines the necessity of clinging on in Kursk.

In October alone, Russia was able to occupy an estimated 500 sq km of Ukrainian territory, the most it’s taken since the early days of the full-scale invasion in 2022.

By contrast, Ukraine has already lost around 40% of the territory it seized in Kursk in August.

“The key is not to capture but to hold,” Vadym said, “and we’re struggling a bit with that.”
Russian forces have been gradually retaking territory in Kursk since Ukraine seized it in August
Despite the losses, Vadym thinks the Kursk campaign is still vital.

“It did manage to divert some [Russian] forces from the Zaporizhzhia and Kharkiv regions,” he said.

But some of the soldiers we spoke to said they felt they were in the wrong place, that it was more important to be on Ukraine’s eastern front, rather than occupying part of Russia.

“Our place should have been there [in eastern Ukraine], not here in someone else’s land,” Pavlo said. “We don’t need these Kursk forests, in which we left so many comrades.”

And despite weeks of reports suggesting that as many as 10,000 North Korean troops have been sent to Kursk to join the Russian counter-offensive, the soldiers we’ve been in contact have yet to encounter them.

“I haven’t seen or heard anything about Koreans, alive or dead,” Vadym responded when we asked about the reports.

The Ukrainian military has released recordings which it says are intercepts of North Korean radio communications.

Soldiers said they had been told to capture at least one North Korean prisoner, preferably with documents.

They spoke of rewards - drones or extra leave - being offered to anyone who successfully captures a North Korean soldier.

“It’s very difficult to find a Korean in the dark Kursk forest,” Pavlo noted sarcastically. “Especially if he’s not here.”
Morale seems low among the Ukrainian soldiers the BBC spoke to in Kursk
Veterans of previous doomed operations see parallels in what’s happening in Kursk.

From October 2023 until July this year, Ukrainian forces attempted to hold onto a tiny bridgehead at Krynky, on the left bank of the Dnipro River, some 25 miles (40km) upstream from the liberated city of Kherson.

The bridgehead, initially intended as a possible springboard for advances further into Russian-held territory in southern Ukraine, was eventually lost.

The operation was hugely costly. As many as 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers are thought to have been killed or gone missing.

Some came to see it as a stunt, designed to distract attention from the lack of progress elsewhere.

They fear something similar might be happening in Kursk.

“Good idea but bad implementation,” says Myroslav, a marine officer who served in Krynky and is now in Kursk.

“Media effect, but no military result.”

Military analysts insist that for all the hardship, the Kursk campaign continues to play an important role.

“It’s the only area where we maintain the initiative,” Serhiy Kuzan, of the Ukrainian Security and Cooperation Centre, told me.

He acknowledged that Ukrainian forces were experiencing “incredibly difficult conditions” in Kursk, but said Russia was devoting vast resources to ejecting them - resources which it would prefer to be using elsewhere.

“The longer we can hold this Kursk front - with adequate equipment, artillery, Himars and of course long-range weapons to strike their rear - the better,” he said.

In Kyiv, the senior commanders stand by the Kursk operation, arguing that it’s still reaping military and political rewards.

"This situation annoys Putin,” one said recently, on condition of anonymity. “He is suffering heavy losses there."

As for how long Ukrainian troops would be able to hold out in Kursk, the answer was straightforward.

"As long as it is feasible from the military point of view."

Additional reporting by Anastasiia Levchenko

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1. We have a bridgehead near Tetkino and who knows what movements will begin there in January.
2. Also in January there may be a continuation of the invasion, only in the Belgorod and Bryansk regions. 40 km and the gates of Belgorod. Raid groups captured Aleppo, although it is 5 times larger. All Russian reserves are now in the Kursk region, even the N.Koreans had to be called. Trump comes and says "Stop". I’m not sure that Putler will accept this and that’s all we needed.
 
1. We have a bridgehead near Tetkino and who knows what movements will begin there in January.
2. Also in January there may be a continuation of the invasion, only in the Belgorod and Bryansk regions. 40 km and the gates of Belgorod. Raid groups captured Aleppo, although it is 5 times larger. All Russian reserves are now in the Kursk region, even the N.Koreans had to be called. Trump comes and says "Stop". I’m not sure that Putler will accept this and that’s all we needed.
"we have a bridgehead near Tetkino and who knows what movements will begin"
My guess it will be a mass bowel movement when the shit their pants.
 
"we have a bridgehead near Tetkino and who knows what movements will begin"
My guess it will be a mass bowel movement when the shit their pants.
Don't you like my idea? ;)
Sure this perfidious and cheating nature is why you are in this hole.

I don't see that we are in a hole. It is rather a difficult forest road, but it leads to the exit from the forest of fear.
If the enemy uses anti-personnel mines, then why can't we.
We are forced to take into account the opinion of our partners and wage this war in "white gloves". My opinion is that we need to act symmetrically. Destroy all the substations within a radius of 300-400 km. Let the Russians also sit without electricity and let's see how quickly China will help them recover. It is a more northern country, the frosts there are stronger in winter, but they have taiga, so let them make fires.
 
Let them try. They recently tried to force the Stary Oskol River, now there will be fat crayfish there.
By the way, is that boost mentioned in your videos?
Wow! I'm shocked that a successful crossing would be reported as pyrrhic with Russia losing huge numbers for nothing.
"Thanks to numerical advantage, Russian forces managed to cross the Oskil River, seeking to establish a bridgehead on the other side, the General Staff said." It's weird because in that same article they said they stopped the Russians from crossing. Ukrainians like talking out of their mouth and ass at the same time.

Once again it depends on who you want to believe, they Kyiv independent, or Ukrainian telegram channels.
 
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More footage has been published of the attack of the Russian FPV drone "Prince Vandal Novgorodsky" on the Ukrainian tank "Leopard-2A6", made in Germany. The Leopard 2A6 tank began to be produced in Germany in 1997. Ukraine received 18 Leopard 2A6 tanks from Germany and 3 tanks from Portugal. According to some estimates, 11 Leopard-2A6 tanks have been destroyed so far. In Ukraine, the Leopard-2A6 tank was modified by installing Soviet dynamic protection "Kontakt-1". The video was filmed in the Kursk region of Russia near the village of Darino. The Leopard 2A6 tank was attacked by several Vandal drones, the crew abandoned the damaged tank


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6NBI_iAjSE
 
West is still in some kind of LALALAUND that they still think rest of the world is still slave to it and they will bow down to each and every of their orderS! Atleast their unethical and just immoral one sided actions shows that.. The audacity is beyond any apprehension!
Wait....
But.....

This time it seems germans stepped too far while trying to tame china while in china! Result.... a swift kick out..
Won't be surprised much, if china publicially states next that they will supply whatever item they seems to be legit to their own to Russia... And west can't even do sh1t about that!


View: https://x.com/i/status/1864063270006448623
 
Wow! I'm shocked that a successful crossing would be reported as pyrrhic with Russia losing huge numbers for nothing.
"Thanks to numerical advantage, Russian forces managed to cross the Oskil River, seeking to establish a bridgehead on the other side, the General Staff said." It's weird because in that same article they said they stopped the Russians from crossing. Ukrainians like talking out of their mouth and ass at the same time.

Once again it depends on who you want to believe, they Kyiv independent, or Ukrainian telegram channels.
Video to the barrier! You can write whatever you want, even if you can already capture Kyiv, but in fact, fart and exit.

View: https://x.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1863857733960626497
 
High-quality footage of the launch of three Ukrainian ATACMS operational-tactical missiles made in the USA. The location of the shooting is not reported. The ATACMS missiles were launched from the M142 HIMARS installation, the missiles can also be launched from the M270 installations. Depending on the modification, the flight range of the ATACMS ballistic missile can be from 160 to 300 kilometers. The cost of the latest modification of ATACMS missiles reaches $ 2.5 million per piece. In total, over 3.7 thousand missiles were produced.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g05bWo4pv6o
 
Don't you like my idea? ;)


I don't see that we are in a hole. It is rather a difficult forest road, but it leads to the exit from the forest of fear.
If the enemy uses anti-personnel mines, then why can't we.
We are forced to take into account the opinion of our partners and wage this war in "white gloves". My opinion is that we need to act symmetrically. Destroy all the substations within a radius of 300-400 km. Let the Russians also sit without electricity and let's see how quickly China will help them recover. It is a more northern country, the frosts there are stronger in winter, but they have taiga, so let them make fires.
Whether axe falls on your leg or leg falls on axe there is only one loser.
 
Whether axe falls on your leg or leg falls on axe there is only one loser.
The meeting with axe took place back in February 2022, but the blow was not fatal - the leg is in a cast. Indeed, someone from Trump's team wants us to cut off the leg and move on. I don't think we will agree.
P.S. Meanwhile, Syrian rebels captured the city of Hаma yesterday.
 
So it seems west was so much so concerned that of DPRK troops in Europe ( i.e russian soil of Kursk and supposedly donbass, which eventually EU refuses to even acknowledge as a part of Europe in the contrary ), that they allowed ukrn to use ATACMS in russia against that! but, as of as still these is no trace of DPRK troops either in SMO or anywhere, the new narrative is being build that the NK ians are so poor in training and are so consumed in Pron that they are ill fitted to be even thrown to the ukrainians!!!!

The new justification for long range strike allowance is-- russia used IseeBMs on ukrainian soil!!!
( boink boink..... time wrap active? so US helped ATACMS attack, viewing the future occurrence of russian BM retaliation.... IN ADVANCE!)

West and its copium logic!!!!

Some times I wonder that, is that really for real that western population in SOOO dumb and deprived of logical reasoning that they take these BS nonsense as some must to cope scripture to follow!?

This is exactly why west is losing the confidence of rest or non so west S even faster than a post orgasm slak dikc looses its mojo..
 

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