Air India AI 171 Crash in Ahemdabad (22 Viewers)

[Nicky]

Its one of the safest aircraft out there, dumb decision. Will kill basically half the international routes to Europe.

Till we recover the CVR and FDR, these decisions are illogical. Look at the safety record of the aircraft in 20 years of service.

Doesn't seem like it. There's a theory that Boeing is selling subpar aircraft to other countries.


View: https://x.com/desimojito/status/1933333580757021095?t=jCTc__qEWwRvsJzyrVs9nA&s=19

 

[trombone]

As per his analysis, with whatever video's/data that are out, he says human (co-pilot) error could be the cause.

yep. looks to be a co-pilot mistake.

so crazy if true.

 

[liberalredditor]

Doesn't seem like it. There's a theory that Boeing is selling subpar aircraft to other countries.


View: https://x.com/desimojito/status/1933333580757021095?t=jCTc__qEWwRvsJzyrVs9nA&s=19

i am also an ex raw agent, this crash is actually french and chinese chaal to destroy boeing so that airbus and comac succeed

how can you believe yt comments??

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

yep. looks to be a co-pilot mistake.

so crazy if true.

Any captain can shout on a 1000 hours first officer and make him nervous which could lead to mistakes.

I am not saying this happened but its not as crazy as it seems.

Btw the Mayday call is really weird..thats the last thing one would do.

1.Fly
2.Navigate
And then if time permits
3.Communicate.

How did no 3 come to number 1 idk.

 

[Nicky]

i am also an ex raw agent, this crash is actually french and chinese chaal to destroy boeing so that airbus and comac succeed

how can you believe yt comments??

It seems logical. Boeing is known for poor quality and cutting corners.


View: https://x.com/RShivshankar/status/1933146535996666320?t=UImOjCgGeB8qvoue18MIVA&s=19

 

[Noob_Saibot]

Doesn't seem like it. There's a theory that Boeing is selling subpar aircraft to other countries.


View: https://x.com/desimojito/status/1933333580757021095?t=jCTc__qEWwRvsJzyrVs9nA&s=19

Mate, we cannot take youtube comments and random tweets as evidence with any credibility.

Look at empirical data first and draw your own conclusions.

How many 787 variants are currently in service around the world?

How many incidents have been associated with the type?

I am no fan of Boeing, but lets be rational. There is literally no data, no evidence, nothing to show the aircraft is inherently unsafe till this point.

You may argue Airbus' design philosophy is superior and safer due to the stronger focus on automation, but the assertion that the 787 is an unsafe plane without anything credible to support it is not on.

 

[Nicky]

Mate, we cannot take youtube comments and random tweets as evidence with any credibility.

Look at empirical data first and draw your own conclusions.

How many 787 variants are currently in service around the world?

How many incidents have been associated with the type?

I am no fan of Boeing, but lets be rational. There is literally no data, no evidence, nothing to show the aircraft is inherently unsafe till this point.

You may argue Airbus' design philosophy is superior and safer due to the stronger focus on automation, but the assertion that the 787 is an unsafe plane without anything credible to support it is not on.

View: https://x.com/aravind/status/1933140473951993878?t=Brk8-mFLi4V0satwlUDCXw&s=19


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[Nicky]

Their own workers don't want to fly a dreamliner.

And you have people defending this shit?


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[trombone]

Any captain can shout on a 1000 hours first officer and make him nervous which could lead to mistakes.

I am not saying this happened but its not as crazy as it seems.

Btw the Mayday call is really weird..thats the last thing one would do.

1.Fly
2.Navigate
And then if time permits
3.Communicate.

How did no 3 come to number 1 idk.

if it was actually a mistake by the co pilot, why would the pilot issue a mayday?

doesn't this negate the "copilot messed up" theory?

 

[FalconSlayers]

View: https://x.com/flyingbeast320/status/1933401582952935752

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

if it was actually a mistake by the co pilot, why would the pilot issue a mayday?

doesn't this negate the "copilot messed up" theory?

Maybe the captain made the call?

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

View: https://x.com/flyingbeast320/status/1933401582952935752

Opportunists are here.

 

[Noob_Saibot]

View: https://x.com/aravind/status/1933140473951993878?t=Brk8-mFLi4V0satwlUDCXw&s=19


View: https://x.com/darshitpatel84/status/1933148880444494267?t=LLNAl8vAoRB9RF0SoBPdEA&s=19

The 737 definitely had issues, no doubt about it.

But the 747 had a good track record, as did the 727 before it.

Same for the 757, 767 and 777.

I don't have the data right now, but i am confident if you compare incident rate/per flight that is attributed to technical faults as opposed to pilot error/weather related factors, you will not find a significant difference between Boeing and Airbus(with the 737max exception).

I will try to find any reports/papers/data later when i get off work.

 

[notaname]

Boring dreamliner fleet grounded. Good job.


View: https://x.com/MeghUpdates/status/1933423444999483423?t=FWJ3sXYYr2ItE5kOvjsP9A&s=19

Its one of the safest aircraft out there, dumb decision. Will kill basically half the international routes to Europe.

Till we recover the CVR and FDR, these decisions are illogical. Look at the safety record of the aircraft in 20 years of service.

Do you all guys even read the tweets? And don't trust anyone till there is confirmation.

He is saying may ground. Not grounded.

 

[Nicky]

The 737 definitely had issues, no doubt about it.

But the 747 had a good track record, as did the 727 before it.

Same for the 757, 767 and 777.

I don't have the data right now, but i am confident if you compare incident rate/per flight that is attributed to technical faults as opposed to pilot error/weather related factors, you will not find a significant difference between Boeing and Airbus(with the 737max exception).

I will try to find any reports/papers/data later when i get off work.

The whistleblower raised concerns against 787 specifically.

The company is notorious for scams and coverup.


View: https://x.com/RShivshankar/status/1933341995994419477?t=0MJcuBor6fykqeSDTnweFQ&s=19

Do you all guys even read the tweets? And don't trust anyone till there is confirmation.

He is saying may ground. Not grounded.

Yes it was may ground, there has to be specific concerns to ground it.

 

[LastMythin]

Any captain can shout on a 1000 hours first officer and make him nervous which could lead to mistakes.

I am not saying this happened but its not as crazy as it seems.

Btw the Mayday call is really weird..thats the last thing one would do.

1.Fly
2.Navigate
And then if time permits
3.Communicate.

How did no 3 come to number 1 idk.

Are there no systems to inform the pilots to inform the pilots if a mistake of that gravity happens?
Also do we have idea about the schedules of the pilots? Could exhaustion have played a part?

The mayday thing could have just happened due to blind panic but idk. But pilot error theory seems the most plausible unfortunately.

 

[Noob_Saibot]

Do you all guys even read the tweets? And don't trust anyone till there is confirmation.

He is saying may ground. Not grounded.

Grounding an aircraft while investigating could definitely be an option, it's not an uncommon practice.

Apologies, i misread the tweet.

But given this is the first lethal incident involving the type, I don't believe it will lead to a full grounding.

 

[liberalredditor]

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR rat was out in the video it seems, so human error should be ruled out?? it was turbine failure??????

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Are there no systems to inform the pilots to inform the pilots if a mistake of that gravity happens?
Also do we have idea about the schedules of the pilots? Could exhaustion have played a part?

The mayday thing could have just happened due to blind panic but idk. But pilot error theory seems the most plausible unfortunately.

There is obviously a lot of warning like aircraft will enter low energy state..Slats would immediately come in…In Airbus full power would come in automatically idk about 787.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR rat was out in the video it seems, so human error should be ruled out?? it was turbine failure??????

Thats what i thought too but all aviation experts including Indian ones are pointing at human factors.

I dont have hands on experience on 787 but in Airbus its pretty much automatic deployment and a manual deployment which is done when following a checklist.