Air India AI 171 Crash in Ahemdabad (34 Viewers)

[Nicky]

I hope there is no terror angle it would be devastating.

Sabotage is certainly possible. I don't know what action we can take apart from firing and arresting Turkish jokers.

 

[Selvam91]

View: https://x.com/MagnesiumKohli/status/1933394433019388346?t=MA6fLlS4vkGPCvc3QhRPoQ&s=19

faceplam people should develop common sense

 

[Nicky]

Same buffoon is doing the rounds. We need experts from our side to counter.


View: https://x.com/avarakai/status/1933727465303916828?t=HIzYk51Mdn1JaAfGR-FWHA&s=19

 

[notaname]

A High Level Multi-disciplinary Committee is constituted for examining the causes leading to the crash of the Air India Flight AI-171 from Ahmedabad to Gatwick Airport (London) on June 12, 2025.

The Committee will examine the existing Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs) and guidelines issued to prevent and handle such occurrences and suggest comprehensive guidelines for dealing with such instances in the future.

The Committee will not be a substitute to other enquiries being conducted by relevant organisations but will focus on formulating SOPs for preventing and handling such occurrences in the future.

@RamMNK @mohol_murlidhar

View: https://x.com/MoCA_GoI/status/1933601906750074972?t=2o7O1LTwxTWWYfpoJypEuw&s=19

 

[Doreamon]

Nothing is confirmed yet . It is a mere speculation for now . But any country having jihadi sympathiser and connection with pakistan should be kept away from any projects in india .

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Gora fucker trying to shift the blame to pilots to protect Boeing. As expected.


View: https://x.com/RShivshankar/status/1933708069508153793?t=E70tS7KGckKZssBThe3OVA&s=19

View: https://x.com/shivaroor/status/1933607612114698718?s=46

 

[neelaslayer]

View: https://x.com/BHKslams/status/1933534165351145497?t=UTfyHqKmM1vV7qEdldHFHA&s=19

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

View: https://youtu.be/MPk31EhtakE?si=ivAC8Wq8v8xNNsjq

 

[Brood Father]

View: https://x.com/BHKslams/status/1933534165351145497?t=UTfyHqKmM1vV7qEdldHFHA&s=19

Such news should be hush hush and stay hidden from public until materialized .

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

Gora fucker trying to shift the blame to pilots to protect Boeing. As expected.


View: https://x.com/RShivshankar/status/1933708069508153793?t=E70tS7KGckKZssBThe3OVA&s=19

Same buffoon is doing the rounds. We need experts from our side to counter.


View: https://x.com/avarakai/status/1933727465303916828?t=HIzYk51Mdn1JaAfGR-FWHA&s=19

View: https://x.com/shivaroor/status/1933607612114698718?s=46

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyglKvfWblY


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvAb55RtmUY


So some foreign pilots like Captain Steve Scheibner & some domestic pilots also said that co-pilot might have accidentally pull up flap lever instead of gear lever.

BUT

ADMIT that when flaps, (basically anything - throttle, air-brake level, buttons, knobs) are incorrectly operated then it'll sound loud alarm & warning LEDs.

So, then the disoriented pilot/co-pilot will react immediately "Oh shit, damn, WTH did i do" & correct the action immediately.

1st of all the 2 levers of gear & flaps are not nearby.

2nd, When pilot instructs co-pilot to perform assisting task like change flaps, operate landing gear, overhead panel, etc, he/she has to verbally ANNOUNCE it like "Flaps 10" & the co-pilot has to execute task & ACKNOWLEDGE by repeating "Flaps 10".
Non-instructed actions also have to be announced to be on same page.

3rd, the sound & LED alarms.

4th, The mistake has to happen obviously before the APOGEE of the trajectory, roughly around 20-30% of horizontal distance & around 50% of vertical distance.

So if the black box revealed that co-pilot did make a mistake then the global aviation community would suspect him as intoxicated at work, mentally stressed, fatigued, having health issues, etc.

The flaps change angle steadily, neither slow nor fast, like say 1-2 degree/second, IDK exactly.
So 5-10 seconds lost in doing mistake & immediately correcting it.
In this case IMO plane would have flown just over the medical hostel & gained altitude.
But ofcourse, being a non-aero average techie, i could be inaccurate/wrong.

 

[liberalredditor]

787 is the most modern plane in the wide body segment.

what about a350?

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

what about a350?

A350 is the more recent aircraft and has more modern technology.

For Boeings 787 is the most modern wide body aircraft.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyglKvfWblY


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvAb55RtmUY


So some foreign pilots like Captain Steve Scheibner & some domestic pilots also said that co-pilot might have accidentally pull up flap lever instead of gear lever.

BUT

ADMIT that when flaps, (basically anything - throttle, air-brake level, buttons, knobs) are incorrectly operated then it'll sound loud alarm & warning LEDs.

So, then the disoriented pilot/co-pilot will react immediately "Oh shit, damn, WTH did i do" & correct the action immediately.

1st of all the 2 levers of gear & flaps are not nearby.

2nd, When pilot instructs co-pilot to perform assisting task like change flaps, operate landing gear, overhead panel, etc, he/she has to verbally ANNOUNCE it like "Flaps 10" & the co-pilot has to execute task & ACKNOWLEDGE by repeating "Flaps 10".
Non-instructed actions also have to be announced to be on same page.

3rd, the sound & LED alarms.

4th, The mistake has to happen obviously before the APOGEE of the trajectory, roughly around 20-30% of horizontal distance & around 50% of vertical distance.

So if the black box revealed that co-pilot did make a mistake then the global aviation community would suspect him as intoxicated at work, mentally stressed, fatigued, having health issues, etc.

The flaps change angle steadily, neither slow nor fast, like say 1-2 degree/second, IDK exactly.
So 5-10 seconds lost in doing mistake & immediately correcting it.
In this case IMO plane would have flown just over the medical hostel & gained altitude.
But ofcourse, being a non-aero average techie, i could be inaccurate/wrong.

All foreign pilots are biased against the First Officer.

RAT extention doesnt happen due to incorrect flap setting.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Watch from 25:30



View: https://youtu.be/bnhZ6rRiwps?si=bLqnL1x8ErgMPgag

 

[Brood Father]

All foreign pilots are biased against the First Officer.

RAT extention doesnt happen due to incorrect flap setting.

Is RAT extension confirmed ? RAT usually happens in loss of power I presume ..
And could you please confirm that when RAT is deployed you can communicate and transponder will work as there is no power in cockpit ..

 

[liberalredditor]

A350 is the more recent aircraft and has more modern technology.

For Boeings 787 is the most modern wide body aircraft.

777-x is almost there now

 

[liberalredditor]

787 rat deployment in past


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-mtK5el25J0

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Is RAT extension confirmed ? RAT usually happens in loss of power I presume ..
And could you please confirm that when RAT is deployed you can communicate and transponder will work as there is no power in cockpit ..

I think in one video the sound is clearly of a RAT in which the Gora pilot is saying oh look the engine is alive…Its clearly a RAT working.

Until the RAT comes online the batteries provide power for transponder and RT calls.

 

[Spitfire IX]

I believe that the FDR has been retrieved. If the data is readable, a lot of speculation will end.

I should add that the 1 survivor is reported to have said that it went dark inside the aircraft (or something along those lines).

I hear that GOI is setting up some kind of committee in response to this accident. I do not see any need. Other countries leave air accident investigations to their air accident investigation board.

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

All foreign pilots are biased against the First Officer.

Some foreigners have tried to debunk pilot/flaps error.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuitOZren48

RAT extention doesnt happen due to incorrect flap setting.

Yeah obviously.
RAT would deploy either automatically or manually, if engine &/or their generators fail.

The airport perimeter guards & CCTV would have been checked for birds & dual bird hit would cause at least 1 engine to shatter, flame-out, spark, create smoke, etc which is not seen.

So what else could lead to dual engine failure at same time?

We all know that with 1x engine failure the plane can easily return, provided favorable weather & other conditions.
Even after 2x engine failure the batteries + RAT would provide power for critical avionics & hydraullics.

To create more thrust the engine doesn't need huge electricity, but just the sufficient power for connection from throttle to FMC to engine instructing to induce more fuel in combustion chamber, expanding more burnt air, rotating HPT on N2 spool more, creating more suction & turning N1 spool more also.

I guess the AUTO setting of AC packs would shut them down or to minimum in emergency to prioritise power to critical avionics, hydraullics.



Although rare, we have theoretical chances of clogged air data sensors too due to atmospheric &/or maintenance issues.

Bcoz S/w glitches are not new in civil & military aviation, i hope inaccurate FMC programming would not lead EEC to react wrongly.