Air India AI 171 Crash in Ahemdabad (2 Viewers)

[Vinash]

Air India needs to be scrutinized heavily.

Air India staffers who exposed a Boeing 787 Dreamliner malfunction in 2024 were threatened, told to change their statements, and fired after they refused.​

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[Bhartiya Sainik]

View: https://youtu.be/bHTT9gIit0A?si=lHazBl5o6ZeeGxYI

As per him, flight may be overloaded. And one engine may have failed due to bird strike or something . And then it couldn't get sufficient speed and height and crashed.

Nice video. I also saw it yesterday morning in my YT feed.
Gaurav Taneja a.k.a. "Flying Beast", ex-Air Asia pilot, whistle blower of many things incl. high flaps/speed landing.
He covered many theories.
They simulated the crash in actual hard simulator & they got stunned & froze. But real life scenario is different.

There are many other videos also including air crash investigations where, although at high altitude, pilots with dual engine failure had far more chance of recovery & did recover by restarting engines (fuel switch behind throttle & engine start switch on overhead panel) after checking conditions of fire, electricity, hydraullics, etc.

But in this case, even in 1st half of trajectory (16 seconds), pilots must have checked all faults on MFDs & suppose even if they tried restarting engines with battery + RAT, remaining 16 seconds may not be enough to achieve thrust to level & pull up. In my limited knowledge i guess the throttle cannot be pushed full too fast immediately. And the city dwellings also didn't give much chance, the open areas & roads probably obscured by trees.

Air India needs to be scrutinized heavily.

Air India staffers who exposed a Boeing 787 Dreamliner malfunction in 2024 were threatened, told to change their statements, and fired after they refused.​

Whistleblower Crew Allege Cover-up in 2024 Dreamliner Door Glitch, Seek Prime Minister’s Intervention - Thar Tribune

Two former Air India flight attendants have approached Prime Minister Narendra Modi, alleging that they were terminated after refusing to alter their

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Gaurav Taneja also said in many videos that corupted people in Air Asia later got promoted rather than penalized.

Just imagine, such corrupted people could be our next door neighbor & we may never suspect them or come to know what conspiracy, cover-up they may be involved in their office.

Who's right, who'wrong, whom to believe?

 

[angryindian]

View: https://youtu.be/bHTT9gIit0A?si=lHazBl5o6ZeeGxYI

As per him, flight may be overloaded. And one engine may have failed due to bird strike or something . And then it couldn't get sufficient speed and height and crashed.

No, he says subtly, that airlines usually carry more weight than what is recorded in the books.He mentions that the 787 has a max take off weight of 225 tonnes and that plane that day was carrying 205 tonnes.

In engineering,there is a thing called as "FACTOR OF SAFETY". Just because the max take off weight is 225 tonnes,it does not mean that you can carry anywhere near max weight. You have to keep a margin, say for example 80-85% of the max take off weight.

That day the temperature was around 43°C. The Asphalt runway on which the plane was standing would be easily around 70-75 °C. The hotter the climate,the lower the air density, resulting in reduced engine thrust and wing lift.Ideally,they should have been carrying a much lower load

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

No, he says subtly, that airlines usually carry more weight than what is recorded in the books.He mentions that the 787 has a max take off weight of 225 tonnes and that plane that day was carrying 205 tonnes.

In engineering,there is a thing called as "FACTOR OF SAFETY". Just because the max take off weight is 225 tonnes,it does not mean that you can carry anywhere near max weight. You have to keep a margin, say for example 80-85% of the max take off weight.

That day the temperature was around 43°C. The Asphalt runway on which the plane was standing would be easily around 70-75 °C. The hotter the climate,the lower the air density, resulting in reduced engine thrust and wing lift.Ideally,they should have been carrying a much lower load

Ofcourse safety margin should be kept but jets are made & tested with MTOW in different climate conditions.
Northern Africa, Middle East have much hotter climate, where all types of jets fly.
AFAIK, Air India allows more luggage than other international carriers.
91% load can be a concern but how can it cause both engines losing thrust or power same time?