Bangladesh Civil War & Coup 2024

You see back in 1971 we still had soldiers from British era. They would tell the politicians straight up if something was missing and how much time was needed to be prepared.
Now we have yes men that are looking to save face and hide details of a martyr to save the party.

We have come a long way from 17 deaths during uri than 40 death during balakot.

Vishwagorilla understood that the overton window has been shifted, 5 to 7 deaths feels like a mosquitoes bite.

Most likely the career bania politcian has no way of knowing what a good and capable militray should look like.
Vishwagorilla has golden chance to be remembered forever like Indira Gandhi in world politics history. This is his last term and the way vishwagorilla cabinet ministers are behaving Nimmo Vaishnaw failing in handling the portfolio it’s isn’t sure he will complete the full term. BJP is staring at defeat in upcoming 3 state elections and condition of BJP at central will deteriorate after the state elextions. Just do what Sir manekshaw/ IG did. Even if we gain little land advantage that will be significant in history. History doesn’t repeat itself it is made to repeat either by strong men or stupid men.
 
Naah... Govt leaning media like Swarjaya and OpIndia are crying hoarse about US meddlimg since day 1.
That doesn’t make any difference now who did it and how much they were involved unless you are capable enough to have a go on that country or punish them. Even democrats tried the narrative Russia was involved in rigging 2020 elections for trump which was just rhetoric. Who gives the duck about what swarajya or OP India tabloid writes? Or Indian media shouts about. Indian MSM is regarded as joke around the world
 
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less than 500 persons per sq. km. in the strategic silgurri corridor. What is stopping India from taking that whole area?
 

What's stopping India from sneaking in SF and securing territory around the siliguri corridor?
Common sense and not a too heavy dose of jingoism. Please think about the consequences of the actions you suggest critically before asking such questions.
 
India should reorient its policies to find common ground with the U.S.
(Bangladesh in an example)

The U.S. is capable of arming India’s neighbors to attack India, as seen with Pakistan in 1965, 1971, and 1999, and can also instigate civil disorder, as they did recently in Bangladesh. They attempted a similar strategy in India during the farmers' agitation and the Red Fort attack but failed. The U.S.'s intent is to pressure India to cease oil purchases from Russia, a demand they avoid making to China due to fear. Instead, they view India as an easier target.

The U.S. must realize that much of the Russian oil refined in India ends up as diesel in Europe, which is in short supply due to the halt in Russian oil exports. Europe urgently needs this diesel and imports about $10 billion worth from India.

Bangladesh was an easy target for the U.S. due to the presence of pro-Pakistani supporters, which they exploited along with opposition party lead by Khalida Zia and American-funded student movement. The protests were fronted by students, while the actual violence was largely carried out by workers of Khalida Zia’s party, which is also funded by the U.S.

For India, continuing oil purchases from Russia and maintaining alignment with the U.S. on some international issues seemed beneficial to India, but not to the US. Modi, a right-wing pro-Hindu, pro-West leader, has shifted India from socialism to capitalism, a transformation deeply rooted in Indian politics. The U.S. supports this economic shift, but Modi’s independent stance on some foreign policies and restrictions on Christian conversions in India have caused friction. The U.S. is using the CAA backdrop to push for conversions, an effort they would not dare attempt in Pakistan due to safety concerns for their priests.

For rapid Indian economic growth, the U.S. and the West is crucial, not Russia, unless the U.S. poses a military threat as in 1971. That has to be kept in mind for policy formulations. The U.S. reaction towards India will become clearer after the November 6th election. If Democrats remain in power, U.S. policy towards India is unlikely to change, and India will need to adjust. If Republicans win, then a significant shift is expected, and Trump may end the Ukraine war and alter U.S. policies in Washington.

So, what is advisable for India? The best option is to support U.S. foreign policy in most cases. The Ukraine war is nearing its end, and India could play a role in this. Gradually, India should encourage Europe to arrange their own diesel supply and not depend on for Russian refined oil.

The best foreign policy gift India could offer to the U.S. is to join the anti-Chinese QUAD group more aggressively. India should remove all unnecessary objections to India’s participation in QUAD. Also, offer more repair and refurbishing facility for US naval ships in India. These foreign policy adjustments would be favorable to the U.S. They probably would also remove all go slow tactics on GE F 404 and F414 engineer.
 
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less than 500 persons per sq. km. in the strategic silgurri corridor. What is stopping India from taking that whole area?

Simple answer - we are mostly COWARDS. Centuries of conditioning has led to this and the political class is just a reflection.
 
Simple answer - we are mostly COWARDS. Centuries of conditioning has led to this and the political class is just a reflection.
So we can only become less cowardly if we acknowledge this and set up steps to mitigate the errors in the psyche.
 
If you are at peace with the worst case situation, you are truly free and unencumbered by anything that can happen to you.
 
India should reorient its policies to find common ground with the U.S.
(Bangladesh in an example)

The U.S. is capable of arming India’s neighbors to attack India, as seen with Pakistan in 1965, 1971, and 1999, and can also instigate civil disorder, as they did recently in Bangladesh. They attempted a similar strategy in India during the farmers' agitation and the Red Fort attack but failed. The U.S.'s intent is to pressure India to cease oil purchases from Russia, a demand they avoid making to China due to fear. Instead, they view India as an easier target.

The U.S. must realize that much of the Russian oil refined in India ends up as diesel in Europe, which is in short supply due to the halt in Russian oil exports. Europe urgently needs this diesel and imports about $10 billion worth from India.

Bangladesh was an easy target for the U.S. due to the presence of pro-Pakistani supporters, which they exploited along with opposition party lead by Khalida Zia and American-funded student movement. The protests were fronted by students, while the actual violence was largely carried out by workers of Khalida Zia’s party, which is also funded by the U.S.

For India, continuing oil purchases from Russia and maintaining alignment with the U.S. on some international issues seemed beneficial to India, but not to the US. Modi, a right-wing pro-Hindu, pro-West leader, has shifted India from socialism to capitalism, a transformation deeply rooted in Indian politics. The U.S. supports this economic shift, but Modi’s independent stance on some foreign policies and restrictions on Christian conversions in India have caused friction. The U.S. is using the CAA backdrop to push for conversions, an effort they would not dare attempt in Pakistan due to safety concerns for their priests.

For rapid Indian economic growth, the U.S. and the West is crucial, not Russia, unless the U.S. poses a military threat as in 1971. That has to be kept in mind for policy formulations. The U.S. reaction towards India will become clearer after the November 6th election. If Democrats remain in power, U.S. policy towards India is unlikely to change, and India will need to adjust. If Republicans win, then a significant shift is expected, and Trump may end the Ukraine war and alter U.S. policies in Washington.

So, what is advisable for India? The best option is to support U.S. foreign policy in most cases. The Ukraine war is nearing its end, and India could play a role in this. Gradually, India should encourage Europe to arrange their own diesel supply and not depend on for Russian refined oil.

The best foreign policy gift India could offer to the U.S. is to join the anti-Chinese QUAD group more aggressively. India should remove all unnecessary objections to India’s participation in QUAD. Also, offer more repair and refurbishing facility for US naval ships in India. These foreign policy adjustments would be favorable to the U.S. They probably would also remove all go slow tactics on GE F 404 and F414 engineer.
Completely disagree with this assessment.
Please do not forget
a) India is a nation of 1.4 billion+ souls
b) India is a nation with Nuclear weapons, probably Thermonuclear weapons
c) India has reliable delivery systems and our ICBM range is only limited by our political will to declare them publicly

Now, any nation which has three of the above, has God given right to pursue their own foreign policy as long as it does not harm other nations politically or economically. We do not care if our independent political alignments hurt the sentiments of USA or any lackeys of USA for that matter. Their sentiments are their business and do not concern ours.

How can you even advocate close cooperation with QUAD? If anything, we should try now. more than ever to re-orient ourselves and start making distance from QUAD. If push come to shove and we find ourselves crossing BD borders again, it better not be as an active member of QUAD, if anything, we would need Russia to pin down Chinese & Yankees as they had done during 1971 and to our great advantage.

How can you advocate for anti-Chinese foreign policy? Are we Taiwan? Are we Phillipines, we are not Liliputs but a country of 1.4B+, I remind you again. A nation whose soul is thousand of years old, same as the Chinese civilisation. We are not here for today and tomorrow. We have been here since eons, and we will be here for a long long time, despite how bad the time seems.
What you are suggesting is like - make a deal with Alexander the Great so that a few centuries later when Muslim hordes come, whiteys are here to save your behinds. No, never. We uprooted Muslim rule, We uprooted Whitey rule, if need be we will do all that all over again. And how much prudence is there in aggravating a neighbour for the sake of a someone who lives half a globe away? Consider this on a micro scale - if a relative from out of town who happened to have a small tiff with your next door neighbour, with whom you share normal relations came and told you, simply beat up your neighbours - would you? Is it prudence?

Please think through what I wrote.
 
People sneaking into India and changing demographics isn’t cringe?
You can prevent dekographics change inside India without invading BD. If even half the WILL and resources needed for invasion are put into securing border and kicking out pizmulas from India , especially from N.E, There will be no demographic change.
Also it will have less geopolitical repercussions than a outright invasion.
 
Why are we talking about invading when we can pay the jamaatis to kill each other, crash their economy, do another regime change operations using the same CIA playbook. If their economy goes to shit, why won't the Abduls hang Yunus and rest of CIA led interim govt? Let him flee like Hasina too

If there is chaos, let's exploit this chaos. Probably cheaper too. The true baniya way.
 
Congi and NASSCOM syndicate growth was the actual jobless growth. Mutry and Tatti Stooges killed the MSME and manufacturing jobs .
MSME and Manufacturing jobs were killed by agreements like ITA and other such agreements which made many industries shut shop. ITA killed off nascent electronic industry in India and forced us to import from China.
 
That doesn’t make any difference now who did it and how much they were involved unless you are capable enough to have a go on that country or punish them. Even democrats tried the narrative Russia was involved in rigging 2020 elections for trump which was just rhetoric. Who gives the duck about what swarajya or OP India tabloid writes? Or Indian media shouts about. Indian MSM is regarded as joke around the world
Here world is not the question here the concern is wrold using Indian Media to mislead Indians.
 

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