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[Azaad]

China army top official disappears for month, feared purged by Xi Jinping

FT reports No. 2 He Weidong becoming subject of corruption investigation

asia.nikkei.com

What's happening to the CCP government ? @rockdog

You've the vice chairman of the CMC who's missing for more than a month , likely imprisoned facing trail .

News reports indicate this is only the second instance of an uniformed member of the CMC to be sacked from his post in 60 years.

Earlier we had the sorry case of the Defence Minister Li Shangfu being sacked ostensibly for corruption last year . Prior to that it was the newly appointed Foreign Minister Qin Gang who disappeared from public view.

We've actually lost count of all such ministers & senior officials disappearing from public view in China. Sincerely hope all these people are alive.

 

[rockdog]

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China army top official disappears for month, feared purged by Xi Jinping

FT reports No. 2 He Weidong becoming subject of corruption investigation

asia.nikkei.com

What's happening to the CCP government ? @rockdog

You've the vice chairman of the CMC who's missing for more than a month , likely imprisoned facing trail .

News reports indicate this is only the second instance of an uniformed member of the CMC to be sacked from his post in 60 years.

Earlier we had the sorry case of the Defence Minister Li Shangfu being sacked ostensibly for corruption last year . Prior to that it was the newly appointed Foreign Minister Qin Gang who disappeared from public view.

We've actually lost count of all such ministers & senior officials disappearing from public view in China. Sincerely hope all these people are alive.

Remember you mentioned Dong Jun last yr,



But now he is still on position:


View: https://x.com/VietnamNewsVNS/status/1912513625635569691?t=nUtACCZErmVJspsNRz0lhg&s=19

Sometimes you need to be more patient on watching. It will waste less time to poke me, and save resource of forum.

 

[Azaad]

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Remember you mentioned Dong Jun last yr,

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But now he is still on position:


View: https://x.com/VietnamNewsVNS/status/1912513625635569691?t=nUtACCZErmVJspsNRz0lhg&s=19

Sometimes you need to be more patient on watching. It will waste less time to poke me, and save resource of forum.

Wow! Never knew you screen shot my posts from DFI. Somehow I find this creepy especially since the site has gone.

Are we to understand this entire site is cloned too like the previous one ?

Back on topic there were 4 names given there of which only 1 has been found to be alive? What about the rest?

Besides are you saying it's normal behavior to suddenly disappear or be disappeared? Must be normal in Zhongghuo not in the free world

 

[rockdog]

Wow! Never knew you screen shot my posts from DFI. Somehow I find this creepy especially since the site has gone.

Are we to understand this entire site is cloned too like the previous one ?

Back on topic there were 4 names given there of which only 1 has been found to be alive? What about the rest?

Besides are you saying it's normal behavior to suddenly disappear or be disappeared? Must be normal in Zhongghuo not in the free world

I think you wrote here.



In fact i feel very boring you always poke me, like a harassment.

I had similar feeliing like randombully to you.

 

[Azaad]

I think you wrote here.

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Ah, it's from this site is it? For a moment I was under the impression MSS gave the previous site & its members much more respect than they deserved .

After all we're ordinary people indulging in our passion for all things defence geo political, geo strategy, etc out here & previously with DFI, totally unassociated with any government body unlike you .

In fact i feel very boring you always poke me, like a harassment.

You mean it's like Chinese cos & India where you don't get your way, then you complain India's a bad place to do business, there's public defecation, cities are filthy, people have no civic sense nor discipline etc while you still shamelessly lurk around here for 20 years & Chinese cos do the same for there's money to be made & taxes to be evaded.

I had similar feeliing like randombully to you.

He's a bachelor just like his father before him & his grand father before his father. It's a family trait going back several generations. Do you & your ancestors share similar traits?

 

[Azaad]

View: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIbDTFf1FSlFZmQboYY_0B-xBFNIxau3B&si=e8yOy4K3eyAM9MMG

8 part podcast on the biography of Deng Xiaoping based on the book On China - Henry Kissinger & mostly on the biography Deng Xiaoping &The Transformation of China - Ezra Vogel from his formative years to the paramount leader in China.

Must watch for those interested in how Deng managed to rescue China from what Mao inflicted on it in the 27 years he was in charge.

 

[Azaad]

View: https://twitter.com/kanimozhi/status/1936224907018314175?s=19

Sneak preview of @rockdog & @helin office at the MSS.

 

[rockdog]

View: https://twitter.com/kanimozhi/status/1936224907018314175?s=19

Sneak preview of @rockdog & @helin office at the MSS.

Do not redeem it!

 

[Gyyaan]

View: https://x.com/lammichaeltw/status/1937496092062679492

 

[Azaad]

100 generals sacked during the 12 + years Xi has been in power including some of his closest supporters & hand picked men .

Apparently the incumbent to the post of Vice Chairman of the CCP & PRC Central Military Commission ( CMC ) He Weidong , which is one of the 2 posts of VCs of the CCP & PRC CMC ( the incumbent usually holds both the party & government posts simultaneously ) , has not been seen in public since April 2025 with FT reporting he's been arrested for corruption.

Xi Jinping is the Chairman of this body which means his 2 deputies would obviously be his own loyalists . In the past the paramount leader be it Mao or Deng or Jiang Zemin or Hu Jintao - Xi's predecessor have all held this post apart from their posts in the party & political structure , be it the General Secretary of the Party along with the President of the PRC or on those lines .

Deng quit all party & political posts but retained this post till he quit politics altogether. Ditto for his successor Jiang Zemin. The idea is to keep an eye of their successors & protect their own privileges apart from their proteges in the system.

Lt Gen Raj Shukla comes across as a street smart general who knows how to get the job done with the tools at his disposal . He also comes across as someone down to earth rather than one who inhabits ivory towers or in his own words indulges in " high brow analysis . "

Plenty of other insights into the Paxtan China BD Turkey nexus shaping up & how it will affect India going forward. Let me also confess to being witness to the first time any general or senior member of the armed forces - serving or retired , has ever described our present security situation as grim explicitly .


This podcast is well worth the time spent. @ezsasa ; @concard et al

 

[concard]

100 generals sacked during the 12 + years Xi has been in power including some of his closest supporters & hand picked men .

Apparently the incumbent to the post of Vice Chairman of the CCP & PRC Central Military Commission ( CMC ) He Weidong , which is one of the 2 posts of VCs of the CCP & PRC CMC ( the incumbent usually holds both the party & government posts simultaneously ) , has not been seen in public since April 2025 with FT reporting he's been arrested for corruption.

Xi Jinping is the Chairman of this body which means his 2 deputies would obviously be his own loyalists . In the past the paramount leader be it Mao or Deng or Jiang Zemin or Hu Jintao - Xi's predecessor have all held this post apart from their posts in the party & political structure , be it the General Secretary of the Party along with the President of the PRC or on those lines .

Deng quit all party & political posts but retained this post till he quit politics altogether. Ditto for his successor Jiang Zemin. The idea is to keep an eye of their successors & protect their own privileges apart from their proteges in the system.

Lt Gen Raj Shukla comes across as a street smart general who knows how to get the job done with the tools at his disposal . He also comes across as someone down to earth rather than one who inhabits ivory towers or in his own words indulges in " high brow analysis . "

Plenty of other insights into the Paxtan China BD Turkey nexus shaping up & how it will affect India going forward. Let me also confess to being witness to the first time any general or senior member of the armed forces - serving or retired , has ever described our present security situation as grim explicitly .


This podcast is well worth the time spent. @ezsasa ; @concard et al

I don't know anything about their generals. But if being in a authoritarian country is anything to go by especially when you are at the top, I guess you can't stop looking over your shoulder even for a day. Something is not right about the way they changed so many men during our stand off in Galwan. Their propaganda videos even showed their soldiers getting oxygen in quarters made for them. Is it because they were not able to acclimitize properly? But it is not just soldiers they changed, even their top generals of Western command if I am right. And also their supreme leader doesn't seem very comfortable traveling outside China for some reason. What am I missing about their political struggles?

 

[rockdog]

View: https://youtu.be/nG_OKNKwcNI?si=QrrjrMEsWAzzxKI2

 

[Azaad]

100 generals sacked during the 12 + years Xi has been in power including some of his closest supporters & hand picked men .

Apparently the incumbent to the post of Vice Chairman of the CCP & PRC Central Military Commission ( CMC ) He Weidong , which is one of the 2 posts of VCs of the CCP & PRC CMC ( the incumbent usually holds both the party & government posts simultaneously ) , has not been seen in public since April 2025 with FT reporting he's been arrested for corruption.

Xi Jinping is the Chairman of this body which means his 2 deputies would obviously be his own loyalists . In the past the paramount leader be it Mao or Deng or Jiang Zemin or Hu Jintao - Xi's predecessor have all held this post apart from their posts in the party & political structure , be it the General Secretary of the Party along with the President of the PRC or on those lines .

Deng quit all party & political posts but retained this post till he quit politics altogether. Ditto for his successor Jiang Zemin. The idea is to keep an eye of their successors & protect their own privileges apart from their proteges in the system.

Lt Gen Raj Shukla comes across as a street smart general who knows how to get the job done with the tools at his disposal . He also comes across as someone down to earth rather than one who inhabits ivory towers or in his own words indulges in " high brow analysis . "

Plenty of other insights into the Paxtan China BD Turkey nexus shaping up & how it will affect India going forward. Let me also confess to being witness to the first time any general or senior member of the armed forces - serving or retired , has ever described our present security situation as grim explicitly .


This podcast is well worth the time spent. @ezsasa ; @concard et al

View: https://youtu.be/wxsVqiXIJPg?si=tkgLykOHxPdpjJ2f

Worthy companion piece to the quoted podcast , this time it's Ambassador Prabhat Shukla ( ex Ambassador to Russia among other postings ) interviewed by Hindol Sengupta for his channel Global Order on YouTube.

The topic is the power struggle on within the CCP with Xi Jinping & his band of followers being pitched against the party elders OTOH & OTPH it's Xi Jinping vs the PLA.

The most startling revelation of this podcast is one of the principal reasons behind the clash between Xi & his band of followers & the PLA is their mutually contradictory position on India.

While Xi wants the western borders quiet given the focus on Taiwan about which there's unanimity among all factions , as per Ambassador Shukla the PLA or at least the dominant faction there is spoiling for a fight with India & what's more it's this faction within the PLA which has joined forces with the party elders to checkmate Xi & his coterie.

This can be verified by news reports emanating from India when Xi made his first visit shortly after Modi took office in 2014 accompanied by the PLA intruding deep into Ladakh in the Demchok sector where apparently Modi asked Xi if the party controlled the army or if it was the other way around as in Paxtan deeply embarassing Xi.

What we learn now is Xi purged the PLA of those elements who ordered this move but he was unable to get rid of all of them given the complex patronage system at work in the CCP & a few of them were shunted to other postings till they were eventually rehabilitated & are now challenging Xi's authority.

This explains the reason the GoI continues to reach out to the Chinese government to arrive at some sort of modus vivendi & simultaneously hold out against joining forces with the US led alliance for that would then strengthen the forces in China opposed to Xi , itching for a confrontation with India.

The downside is this could also be a good cop bad cop routine. However I believe our foreign office has enough experience & expertise to arrive at the right decision in charting out the road map to maintaining relations with China in however depleted the condition we find them in .

Here too the downside is not getting caught with our pants down as in Galwan for which I blame the MEA directly & the Chinese Study Group which these suits have successfully infiltrated preventing an alternative PoV from emerging.

Lots of other startling insights & revelations in this podcast which tragically ends with the same formulation some members here including myself have been screaming hoarse about namely our military spending & preparations are not upto par , although Ambassador Shukla does make a valiant attempt to end on an optimistic note .

I've said this before & reiterate this channel is criminally underviewed undervalued & unappreciated , much like DDR's IAH. Both need all the support it can get.

You guys maybe interested - @ezsasa ; @concard ; @redpanda ; @shade2 et al.

 

[shade2]

View: https://youtu.be/wxsVqiXIJPg?si=tkgLykOHxPdpjJ2f

Worthy companion piece to the quoted podcast , this time it's Ambassador Prabhat Shukla ( ex Ambassador to Russia among other postings ) interviewed by Hindol Sengupta for his channel Global Order on YouTube.

The topic is the power struggle on within the CCP with Xi Jinping & his band of followers being pitched against the party elders OTOH & OTPH it's Xi Jinping vs the PLA.

The most startling revelation of this podcast is one of the principal reasons behind the clash between Xi & his band of followers & the PLA is their mutually contradictory position on India.

While Xi wants the western borders quiet given the focus on Taiwan about which there's unanimity among all factions , as per Ambassador Shukla the PLA or at least the dominant faction there is spoiling for a fight with India & what's more it's this faction within the PLA which has joined forces with the party elders to checkmate Xi & his coterie.

This can be verified by news reports emanating from India when Xi made his first visit shortly after Modi took office in 2014 accompanied by the PLA intruding deep into Ladakh in the Demchok sector where apparently Modi asked Xi if the party controlled the army or if it was the other way around as in Paxtan deeply embarassing Xi.

What we learn now is Xi purged the PLA of those elements who ordered this move but he was unable to get rid of all of them given the complex patronage system at work in the CCP & a few of them were shunted to other postings till they were eventually rehabilitated & are now challenging Xi's authority.

This explains the reason the GoI continues to reach out to the Chinese government to arrive at some sort of modus vivendi & simultaneously hold out against joining forces with the US led alliance for that would then strengthen the forces in China opposed to Xi , itching for a confrontation with India.

The downside is this could also be a good cop bad cop routine. However I believe our foreign office has enough experience & expertise to arrive at the right decision in charting out the road map to maintaining relations with China in however depleted the condition we find them in .

Here too the downside is not getting caught with our pants down as in Galwan for which I blame the MEA directly & the Chinese Study Group which these suits have successfully infiltrated preventing an alternative PoV from emerging.

Lots of other startling insights & revelations in this podcast which tragically ends with the same formulation some members here including myself have been screaming hoarse about namely our military spending & preparations are not upto par , although Ambassador Shukla does make a valiant attempt to end on an optimistic note .

I've said this before & reiterate this channel is criminally underviewed undervalued & unappreciated , much like DDR's IAH. Both need all the support it can get.

You guys maybe interested - @ezsasa ; @concard ; @redpanda ; @shade2 et al.

Here is an alternate theory where the Hu Jintao gang is trying to remove Xi and Pals and will then anschluss Siberia instead of Taiwan first by The Hill website

China will invade Siberia, not Taiwan By 2027​

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5379824-china-wants-to-invade-siberia-not-taiwan/

Seems plausible, they anscluss Siberia, gora retards clap, both the govt, bureaucratic ones and the ones on say Reddit, a year later the gora realises wtf has happened, few years later they Anschluss Taiwan.


This syncs with the gossip about the Western dalal Hu Jintao faction of CCP is couping Xi and gang.

>Hu Jintao gang removes Xi gang
>goras happy
>PLA launches invasion of Sibera up to the Urals
>Ruskal on suicide watch
>Goras clap
>China actually is a superpower now with no weaknesses.
>They grab Taiwan unopposed in 2-3 years
>US cedes Japan and Worst Korea to Chinese sphere of influence
>We're of course fucking next on the menu.

It could very well be the Hu Jintao gang and PLA walas wanting a panga with India are the same party.

This would appease the West, and is a quid pro quo, defeating us will send India into the US orbit.

In exchange goras clap and cheer for Hu Jintao gang's anschluss of Siberia, making Russia a Chinese vassal

More time is also bought for Taiwan this way which is what goras want.

Anyway thanks for providing the summary, never expected it was Xi who wanted buddy buddy with India so they could focus on Taiwan.

 

[concard]

Here is an alternate theory where the Hu Jintao gang is trying to remove Xi and Pals and will then anschluss Siberia instead of Taiwan first by The Hill website



It could very well be the Hu Jintao gang and PLA walas wanting a panga with India are the same party.

This would appease the West, and is a quid pro quo, defeating us will send India into the US orbit.

In exchange goras clap and cheer for Hu Jintao gang's anschluss of Siberia, making Russia a Chinese vassal

More time is also bought for Taiwan this way which is what goras want.

Anyway thanks for providing the summary, never expected it was Xi who wanted buddy buddy with India so they could focus on Taiwan.

Hu Jintao was a part of Jiang Zemin faction. Jiang is dead. Hu Jintao was booted out of CCP meeting in front of the cameras for everyone to see. They said he was having health problems. But I doubt that could be the reason for humiliating ex-premier of China. Xi has purged lot of people in the name of Anti-corruption campaign. One person who fell victim to Xi's purge was Bo Xilai. Bo was tauted to be in the Politburo of 7 members which is the top decision making body of CCP along with President. He was aiming to be the future leader of China if some sources are to be believed. But Xi had other plans. Granted that guy was corrupt too. There were allegations his son was having a lavish life abroad with collection of Ferraris.

Having said that, under Xi there is no way they would invade Siberia. Xi would be saying "on my dead body" given his personal relationship with Putin. Strategically speaking that would be the right thing to do since Russia has weakened. However, since we are talking about Ruskies who have tested beasts like the Tsar Bomb, you never know whether they would be willing to use it if Chinese ever tried something like that. Under Xi, first priority would be breaking the first island chain by taking Taiwan.

 

[shade2]

Hu Jintao was a part of Jiang Zemin faction. Jiang is dead. Hu Jintao was booted out of CCP meeting in front of the cameras for everyone to see. They said he was having health problems. But I doubt that could be the reason for humiliating ex-premier of China. Xi has purged lot of people in the name of Anti-corruption campaign. One person who fell victim to Xi's purge is Bo Xilai. Bo was tauted to be in the Politburo of 7 members which is the top decision making body of CCP along with President. He was aiming to be the future leader of China if some sources are to be believed. But Xi had other plans. Granted that guy was corrupt too. There were allegations his son was having a lavish life abroad with collection of Ferraris.

Having said that, under Xi there is no way they would invade Siberia. Xi would be saying "on my dead body" given his personal relationship with Putin. Strategically speaking that would be the right thing to do since Russia has weakened. However, since we are talking about Ruskies who have tested beasts like the Tsar Bomb, you never know whether they would be willing to use it if Chinese ever tried something like that. Under Xi, first priority would be breaking the first island chain by taking Taiwan.

Yea, domestically also they invested a lot in muh Russi-Ching alliance meme.
Would be hard-sell domestically unless they do a false flag.

Anyway I don't know/care about who this Hu Jintao nigga was, from what all i've been reading about "Xi's kursi is shaking" articles it seems like his guys are the Dalal faction of the CCP that wants peaceful dhandho with the West instead of muscular annexation of Taiwan.

I was assuming with Xi's anti corruption purge he had exterminated all such dallas within CCP and PLA also but kya pata.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/world/jinping-s-disappearance-signals-power-shift-in-china-why-india-must-watch-beijing-s-political-flux-closely-article-13205374.html

 

[Comet]

View: https://x.com/Ayush_Shah_25/status/1941040686482313646