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[rockdog]

Evtols have short range and low speed, just look at the drag it generates with all those engines, more engines more weight for batteries, add lower payloads.

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while you boast you can not replace a Mi-26 or Linx with E-Vtols.

E-Vtols are for short distances, low payload and low speeds.

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The CH-12 is manufactured entirely from aeronautical materials, and the blades are made from composite materials with an on-condition lifespan.
The CH-12 is presented as a new option in the experimental market and embodies numerous technical solutions contributed by the creativity and experience of Augusto Cicaré.
The powerplant used is a Lycoming O-360 (a horizontally opposed, four-cylinder, air-cooled, direct-drive piston engine), providing maximum safety in one of the helicopter's most important components.
TECHNICAL DATA:
- Engine: Lycoming O-360, 180 HP
- Empty weight: 430 kg
- Maximum weight: 700 kg
- Maximum speed: 205 km/h
- Cruise speed: 165 km/h
- Speed: Climb speed: 7 mph
- Service ceiling: 3,500 m
- Range: 2.5 hours
- Fuel: AVGAS 100LL gasoline
Sources:

1) Argentine Militar

If you compare the payload rate E-Vtols can not compete with Helicopter, and to be honest not even with LSA aircraft

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Horizontec created this aircraft using composite materials—carbon fiber, epoxy resins, and fiberglass—with a very unique feature: its 141-horsepower Rotax 915 engine runs on premium gasoline, the same gasoline used in automobiles. It is designed to achieve flights of up to 1,500 kilometers with a range of five hours.
It also has a range of 1,500 kilometers and a flight time of six hours, with an average fuel consumption of 17 liters per hour...

El Halcón 2 cruza los cielos

Por Arlett Cárdenas Arredondo Inesperadas ráfagas de viento de hasta 20 nudos por hora tensaron el ambiente del evento histórico

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The all-electric V2000CG CarryAll has a payload capacity of up to 400 kg with a maximum cruising speed of 200 km per hour and a range of 200 km. It features vertical takeoff and landing capabilities and a fixed-wing cruising design, enabling its applications in low-altitude logistics, emergency response and other fields

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performance wise the E-Vtols can not compete, and these are small helicopters

You still missed the point, we are talking about a ecosystem, not a plane comparison, your list of parameters of a plane is wasting your own time.

People couldn't imagine the things you never meet. the LOW ALTITUDE ECONOMY needs full coverage of own GPS system, 5G networks, full 3D digital map ... ...


View: https://x.com/XH_Lee23/status/1946057307030163744?t=PVV-0f0UeP-mebL8EDA_Wg&s=19


View: https://x.com/ohkf_hk/status/1946389528664580167?t=p6ENK68K14gCsXV2l9s7hA&s=19


Even my own GPS map in my car had interconnection with city's traffic system, and it's cover the whole nation.


View: https://x.com/damengchen/status/1945670107361128858?t=5tOIHFxcHzHeBOdjdrV6LQ&s=19


View: https://x.com/Kanthan2030/status/1721494309147640051?t=WK-mrZymgJK3WXtN-BytUw&s=19

 

[rockdog]

China-made tonne-class eVTOL delivered​

(Xinhua) 09:34, July 23, 2025

The V2000CG CarryAll, a tonne-class electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) aircraft, conducts a flight demonstration at a flight test base in Kunshan, east China's Jiangsu Province, on July 22, 2025. (Xinhua/Fang Zhe)

SHANGHAI, July 22 (Xinhua) -- A Chinese tech startup on Tuesday delivered a tonne-class electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) aircraft, marking a breakthrough in the application of large eVTOLs.

Developed by the Shanghai-based company AutoFlight, the V2000CG CarryAll boasts a maximum takeoff weight of 2 tonnes.

Following the acquisition of the type certificate and production certificate last year, along with the airworthiness certificate acquired on Monday, the unmanned aircraft will be operated by a Guangzhou-based low-altitude transportation business.

The all-electric V2000CG CarryAll has a payload capacity of up to 400 kg with a maximum cruising speed of 200 km per hour and a range of 200 km. It features vertical takeoff and landing capabilities and a fixed-wing cruising design, enabling its applications in low-altitude logistics, emergency response and other fields.

Xie Jia, senior vice president of AutoFlight, said that the aircraft type has so far completed more than 40,000 km of safe flights over various terrains across China and other countries such as the United Arab Emirates and Japan, which help validate its performance and explore its potential application scenarios.

The eVTOL's delivery comes as China's low-altitude economy is entering a stage of rapid growth. According to the Civil Aviation Administration of China, the market value of the sector will soar from 500 billion yuan (about 70 billion U.S. dollars) in 2023 to 1.5 trillion yuan in 2025, and that number could reach an astounding 3.5 trillion yuan by 2035.

The V2000CG CarryAll, a tonne-class electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) aircraft, is pictured at a delivery ceremony in Kunshan, east China's Jiangsu Province, on July 22, 2025. (Xinhua/Fang Zhe)

The V2000CG CarryAll, a tonne-class electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) aircraft, conducts a flight demonstration at a flight test base in Kunshan, east China's Jiangsu Province, on July 22, 2025. (Xinhua/Fang Zhe)

It's in-human! Dark side of Chinese EV industry.


View: https://youtu.be/MCBdcNA_FsI?si=l-1TbeNwH1lAyvCF

 

[E-195]

You still missed the point, we are talking about a ecosystem, not a plane comparison, your list of parameters of a plane is wasting your own time.

People couldn't imagine the things you never meet. the LOW ALTITUDE ECONOMY needs full coverage of own GPS system, 5G networks, full 3D digital map ... ...


View: https://x.com/XH_Lee23/status/1946057307030163744?t=PVV-0f0UeP-mebL8EDA_Wg&s=19


View: https://x.com/ohkf_hk/status/1946389528664580167?t=p6ENK68K14gCsXV2l9s7hA&s=19


Even my own GPS map in my car had interconnection with city's traffic system, and it's cover the whole nation.


View: https://x.com/damengchen/status/1945670107361128858?t=5tOIHFxcHzHeBOdjdrV6LQ&s=19


View: https://x.com/Kanthan2030/status/1721494309147640051?t=WK-mrZymgJK3WXtN-BytUw&s=19

Aircraft are not cars.

Mexico and Brazil have Evtols. Embraer has a large operational one. Mexico one experimental, but not for that I will deny the reality.

A EV weighs more than an ICE car.

In aircraft weight is the first problem, the Halcon 2 takes you 1500km for barely less than 100 liters of fuel, with a single engine or 5 hours flight.

But more drag more thrust needed, more weight more speed or bigger wings. if you understand that you can understand Evtols have no future beyond city services.



The difference is the Halcon 2 will take me from Mexico city to the american border but the EVtol will not take farther than Queretaro, which I can take a bus or train to do the same trip cheaper in price

How far is Mexico City from Querétaro? The distance between Mexico City and Querétaro is 203 km.

The distance between Mexico City and Chihuahua city is 1,269 km. The road distance is 1,430.5 km.
The distance between Mexico City and Ojinaga is 1500 km.

The all-electric V2000CG CarryAll has a payload capacity of up to 400 kg with a maximum cruising speed of 200 km per hour and a range of 200 km. It features vertical takeoff and landing capabilities and a fixed-wing cruising design, enabling its applications in low-altitude logistics, emergency response and other fields