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[rockdog]

You are the perfect slaves, materialistic, empty in their lives and work hard and so many Asians do not even reproduce.

Sure, personal attack again.

Why Mexico did not receive the tech transfers and China did?

No need to BS on German, Japan, USA ...

Not, The answer is simple, Mexico was no capable, so was Philippines‌, because of Catholic + Latino influence + America coloinzation as the worst combination. This is my POV

Every nation wanted to be technical advanced, but most of them failed.

No nation can be good tech receiver while the government is disfuntional, and the whole society full of drug dealer, and elite class made coca cola salesman being president and so did CIA agent.

The surprising story of ex-Mexican president Vicente Fox, who started as a Coca-Cola delivery worker and worked his way up to run Coca-Cola Mexico

Sarah Jacobs/Business Insider

uk.news.yahoo.com

Declassified Documents Uncover Yet Another Mexican President’s CIA Ties

Recently declassified documents have exposed former Mexican president José López Portillo as a CIA asset. The revelations are a reminder of his ignominious contributions to Mexico’s brutal “dirty war” against left dissent during the Cold War.

jacobin.com

Mexico’s president says he would support peace agreement with cartels

Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s comments come after an activist’s open letter to crime groups to stop forced disappearances

www.theguardian.com

Mexico and Philippines‌ were the same type of natoins, they are incapable and failed to receive tech transfer, because failed on social management.

 

[E-195]

Sure, personal attack again.



No need to BS on German, Japan, USA ...

Not, The answer is simple, Mexico was no capable, so was Philippines‌, because of Catholic + Latino influence + America coloinzation as the worst combination. This is my POV

Every nation wanted to be technical advanced, but most of them failed.

No nation can be good tech receiver while the government is disfuntional, and the whole society full of drug dealer, and elite class made coca cola salesman being president and so did CIA agent.

The surprising story of ex-Mexican president Vicente Fox, who started as a Coca-Cola delivery worker and worked his way up to run Coca-Cola Mexico

Sarah Jacobs/Business Insider

uk.news.yahoo.com

Declassified Documents Uncover Yet Another Mexican President’s CIA Ties

Recently declassified documents have exposed former Mexican president José López Portillo as a CIA asset. The revelations are a reminder of his ignominious contributions to Mexico’s brutal “dirty war” against left dissent during the Cold War.

jacobin.com

Mexico’s president says he would support peace agreement with cartels

Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s comments come after an activist’s open letter to crime groups to stop forced disappearances

www.theguardian.com

Mexico and Philippines‌ were the same type of natoins, they are incapable and failed to receive tech transfer, because failed on social management.

who told you that Trump and the KKK?

You Asian with complex of KKK.

You can not understand because your society only promotes consumerism, hard work, no family, now not even reproduction, cult of personality, no human rights, your society and you just promote materialism Xi is your God and the CCP reigns supreme.

in the west they are doing the same for that there here is a musing of western stupidity thread here and your communist ideology is the same that promote woke culture in the west.

China`s culture is steal cheat, become rich buy and work for CCP those are your values be slaves of the CCP

 

[E-195]

Sure, personal attack again.



No need to BS on German, Japan, USA ...

Not, The answer is simple, Mexico was no capable, so was Philippines‌, because of Catholic + Latino influence + America coloinzation as the worst combination. This is my POV

Every nation wanted to be technical advanced, but most of them failed.

No nation can be good tech receiver while the government is disfuntional, and the whole society full of drug dealer, and elite class made coca cola salesman being president and so did CIA agent.

The surprising story of ex-Mexican president Vicente Fox, who started as a Coca-Cola delivery worker and worked his way up to run Coca-Cola Mexico

Sarah Jacobs/Business Insider

uk.news.yahoo.com

Declassified Documents Uncover Yet Another Mexican President’s CIA Ties

Recently declassified documents have exposed former Mexican president José López Portillo as a CIA asset. The revelations are a reminder of his ignominious contributions to Mexico’s brutal “dirty war” against left dissent during the Cold War.

jacobin.com

Mexico’s president says he would support peace agreement with cartels

Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s comments come after an activist’s open letter to crime groups to stop forced disappearances

www.theguardian.com

Mexico and Philippines‌ were the same type of natoins, they are incapable and failed to receive tech transfer, because failed on social management.

who you pretend you laugh? Chinese KKK? get it very clear your Western handlers will beat you once they finish Russia, you will lose.


we are superior to Filipinos because we dyed our hair blond

 

[rockdog]

who told you that Trump and the KKK?

You Asian with complex of KKK.

You can not understand because your society only promotes consumerism, hard work, no family, now not even reproduction, cult of personality, no human rights, your society and you just promote materialism Xi is your God and the CCP reigns supreme.

in the west they are doing the same for that there here is a musing of western stupidity thread here and your communist ideology is the same that promote woke culture in the west.

China`s culture is steal cheat, become rich buy and work for CCP those are your values be slaves of the CCP

who you pretend you laugh? Chinese KKK? get it very clear your Western handlers will beat you once they finish Russia, you will lose

No data, no analysis, only rant like "you will be beaten" ... So boring ...


This is how the debate ended from your side. Every time when i post links, data, evidence, even asking questions, made you angry and became personal rant, well I m OK with it, it proves you lost on debate.

BTW, let me ask you again, do you think worst security would bring innoviatons, even based on tech transfer? Final chance ahh!




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[randombully]

who told you that Trump and the KKK?

You Asian with complex of KKK.

You can not understand because your society only promotes consumerism, hard work, no family, now not even reproduction cult of personality, no human rights, your society and you just promote materialism Xi is your God is Xi and the CCP reigns supreme.

in the west theya re doing the same for that there here is a musing of western stupidity and your communist idelogy is the same that promote woke culture in the west.

One of the biggest mistake of ccp was one child policy.
Another even bigger mistake is to let their youth be influenced by western liberalism and individualism beacuse this along with high economic life expectation and rising cost will mean less marriage and kids in the future, hence getting closer and closer to demographic collapse.
The same shit that sk and Japan are facing, chink are going in the similar path.
Though chinks having more authoritarian gov. does have a higher chance to recover by promoting( also forcing) people to marry and having kids, china can use the classic carrot and stick strategy.
West,Japan and sk will struggle with "stick" part, and carrot that sk and Japan are giving to their citizens haven't brought any improvement.
West seems to be tackling it with immigration but it has its own downsides like slowly replacing the original demographic as the majority.
Like nobody, neither west, china, Japan, sk,India and any other country want their current majority demographic to become minority in future.
Specially china.
In Japan and sk gov. Is not that much against immigration the people are.
In China pretty sure gov would also be against immigration as they wouldn't want their han chinese to become minority in their own country after decades of immigration.

So ultimately, the authoritarian model that china has does have much better capability of recover from demographic challenges compared to more free, liberal and democratic countries.

 

[E-195]

No data, no analysis, only rant like "you will be beaten" ... So boring ...


This is how the debate ended from your side. Every time when i post links, data, evidence, even asking questions, made you angry and became personal rant, well I m OK with it, it proves you lost on debate.

BTW, let me ask you again, do you think worst security would bring innoviatons, even based on tech transfer? Final chance ahh!

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No data yeah tell me how your ageing society suffers a low birth rate high erectile dysfunction and you have a high divorce rate and higher dead rate per 1000 people than Mexico.

you made Xi your God and you values are materialistic, your primitive writing system is not fit for keyboards.

Tech transfers and tariffs by the west dream Chinese you will be beaten only a fool can not see, but CCP propaganda will not let you see and you know why censorship

 

[E-195]

One of the biggest mistake of ccp was one child policy.
Another even bigger mistake is to let their youth be influenced by western liberalism and individualism beacuse this along with high economic life expectation and rising cost will mean less marriage and kids in the future, hence getting closer and closer to demographic collapse.
The same shit that sk and Japan are facing, chink are going in the similar path.
Though chinks having more authoritarian gov. does have a higher chance to recover by promoting( also forcing) people to marry and having kids, china can use the classic carrot and stick strategy.
West,Japan and sk will struggle with "stick" part, and carrot that sk and Japan are giving to their citizens haven't brought any improvement.
West seems to be tackling it with immigration but it has its own downsides like slowly replacing the original demographic as the majority.
Like nobody, neither west, china, Japan, sk,India and any other country want their current majority demographic to become minority in future.
Specially china.
In Japan and sk gov. Is not that much against immigration the people are.
In China pretty sure gov would also be against immigration as they wouldn't want their han chinese to become minority in their own country after decades of immigration.

So ultimately, the authoritarian model that china has does have much better capability of recover from demographic challenges compared more free, liberal and democratic countries.

Most Asians are atheistic in nature, hard working and companies are their religion, they have social problems due to low promotion of family life, if you see low birth rate and ageing population is these societies or masturbate or replace the family by worship of Job bosses or company slavery.

empty societies they will fall

 

[randombully]

Most Asians are atheistic in nature, hard working and companies are their religion, they have social problems due to low promotion of family life, if you see low birth rate and ageing population is these societies or masturbate or replace the family by worship of Job bosses or company slavery.

empty societies they will fall

As I said before, chinese gov. does have "better capabilities" to prevent them from falling. compared to more democratic gov.

Though the best system for long term sustainability for a country is to have a society that focus on family/communal/ societal aspects than individualism and short term pleasure.
Like, human are ultimately societal beings a society that takes the focus away from family, societal values will not sustain for a long time.

 

[E-195]

As I said before, chinese gov. does have "better capabilities" to prevent them from falling. compared to more democratic gov.

Though the best system for long term sustainability for a country is to have a society that focus on family/communal/ societal aspects than individualism and short term pleasure.
Like, human are ultimately societal beings a society that takes the focus away from family, societal values will not sustain for a long time.

Like you said no society can live without families.
The west has been falling by social engineering family life was not promoted, instead divorce, all type of sexual perversions have being promoted, only Russia and eastern slavic Europe are against it, But only Russia has true freedom, that is the why Russia is attacked.

Latin America as western Europe have been perverted with drugs, sexual perversion pornography and Dechristianization (atheism basically) so families have become dysfunctional.
East Asia having lots of atheist is much easier because east Asia has almost no religion and the religion there have been fought by CCP communists like in the Soviet Union, however China nor Japan or South Korea do not have the spirituality to fight it since religion has been replaced for corporation and work related activities and same is family, China is worst than Japan due to communism.

Economically Japan fell because the west decided it was time to stop helping it and the Japanese like the Chinese are highly dependent upon western technology since their sociaties are hierarchical where innovation is not promoted but social cohesion they work well is the technology is given, they are hard working but do not work well because China is heading like japan for an ageing population and old people do not innovate the reality is young people are the ones that innovates.

Japan still lives in the 1980s and China will be the same, Europe and the USA only remain powers because they receive immigration.

 

[Nibbler]

chinabros dont understand that the biggest trump card has yet to be played

a new swine flue that doesnt affect humans but crushes all pigs will be released by america in 2026 which will devastate chinas #1 food supply.

revenge for covid 19 PLAndemic (People's Liberation Army -ndemic)

 

[helin]

chinabros dont understand that the biggest trump card has yet to be played

a new swine flue that doesnt affect humans but crushes all pigs will be released by america in 2026 which will devastate chinas #1 food supply.

revenge for covid 19 PLAndemic (People's Liberation Army -ndemic)

Swine flu is not new. China has experienced it before.

There are many alternatives to pork

 

[helin]

As I said before, chinese gov. does have "better capabilities" to prevent them from falling. compared to more democratic gov.

Though the best system for long term sustainability for a country is to have a society that focus on family/communal/ societal aspects than individualism and short term pleasure.
Like, human are ultimately societal beings a society that takes the focus away from family, societal values will not sustain for a long time.

So which countries do you think are the best models for national development？

 

[Nibbler]

Swine flu is not new. China has experienced it before.

There are many alternatives to pork

>didnt deny covid 19 allegations

i knew it

 

[helin]

>didnt deny covid 19 allegations

i knew it

Ignore frivolous remarks

 

[randombully]

So which countries do you think are the best models for national development？

"National development" is not My talking point.
I'm talking about long term sustainability, and currently no counytry is doing it.
Birth rate decline, shrinking working population are a struggle for all economically developed countries, that's beacuse of the social movement, values and expectation that spread following economic development.

But more authoritarian countries do have much better ability to change their model to more family Centric from individualism when shit hits the fan, compared to more free countries like western ones,sk,Japan, though they will struggle a lot to.

You can try to counter it by bringing immigration, but then you risk demographic change.
Like imagine after a few decades of immigration, Han chinese will only be 55-60% of population of china, few more decades they will be a minority in China itself.
Not to mention those immigrants bring their own values own culture but will also adopt yours, so their children will also be influenced the individualism will also be less like to marry and have a family.
Lastly, immigration can't continue endlessly, humans while in billions are still limited to billions.
Immigration even if you are willing to accept demographic change will atmost give you another century.

 

[rockdog]

chinabros dont understand that the biggest trump card has yet to be played

a new swine flue that doesnt affect humans but crushes all pigs will be released by america in 2026 which will devastate chinas #1 food supply.

revenge for covid 19 PLAndemic (People's Liberation Army -ndemic)

No need to worry too much, China's food security is quite balanced.

 

[rockdog]

"National development" is not My talking point.
I'm talking about long term sustainability, and currently no counytry is doing it.
Birth rate decline, shrinking working population are a struggle for all economically developed countries, that's beacuse of the social movement, values and expectation that spread following economic development.

But more authoritarian countries do have much better ability to change their model to more family Centric from individualism when shit hits the fan, compared to more free countries like western ones,sk,Japan, though they will struggle a lot to.

You can try to counter it by bringing immigration, but then you risk demographic change.
Like imagine after a few decades of immigration, Han chinese will only be 55-60% of population of china, few more decades they will be a minority in China itself.
Not to mention those immigrants bring their own values own culture but will also adopt yours, so their children will also be influenced the individualism will also be less like to marry and have a family.
Lastly, immigration can't continue endlessly, humans while in billions are still limited to billions.
Immigration even if you are willing to accept demographic change will atmost give you another century.

On 200 yrs scale, there will be artificial incubator. Before that, India and China won't face serious population crisis. S.Korea will be the most dangerous nation.

 

[randombully]

On 200 yrs scale, there will be artificial incubator. Before that, India and China won't face serious population crisis. S.Korea will be the most dangerous nation.

First, that 200 year scale is only true if you wish to take immigration, is your chinese gov. Fine with mass immigrants?
Because without them significant rate of economic decline due to demographic decline will start as early as 2050's for china, it ain't taking 200years.
And even if you did take immigration by the time 200 years are gone the ethnic population of your country will become minority in their own country.


lets say after 200 years, artificial incubators are here.
Then who will take care of those kids?
Will people be forced to adopt them?
Or will gov. raise them in mass orphan centres, like some future hi tech dystopia world?
That suggestion of artificial incubators just opens a new can of worms.
We actually do have ability to develop artificial incubators right now, but no country is doing it for ethics.

 

[E-195]

First, that 200 year scale is only true if you wish to take immigration, is your chinese gov. Fine with mass immigrants?
Because without them significant rate of economic decline due to demographic decline will start as early as 2050's for china, it ain't taking 200years.
And even if you did take immigration by the time 200 years are gone the ethnic population of your country will become minority in their own country.


lets say after 200 years, artificial incubators are here.
Then who will take care of those kids?
Will people be forced to adopt them?
Or will gov. raise them in mass orphan centres, like some future hi tech dystopia world?
That suggestion of artificial incubators just opens a new can of worms.
We actually do have ability to develop artificial incubators right now, but no country is doing it for ethics.

births/1,000 population

183 China 10.2 2024 est.

Birth rate Comparison - The World Factbook

www.cia.gov

deaths/1,000 population

95 China 7.7 2024 est.

Death rate Comparison - The World Factbook

www.cia.gov

they still are growing but the true growth is now too limited



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On November 25, president elect Donald Trump announced that due to the large influx of drugs like fentanyl into the U.S., he would impose a 10% tariff on goods from China once he takes office. He also planned to impose a 25% tariff on products from Canada and Mexico. Trump explained that these countries had not taken sufficient action to prevent drugs like fentanyl from entering the U.S. He emphasized that the U.S. had repeatedly discussed the issue with China, but the talks had been "ineffective."

 

[E-195]

No data, no analysis, only rant like "you will be beaten" ... So boring ...


This is how the debate ended from your side. Every time when i post links, data, evidence, even asking questions, made you angry and became personal rant, well I m OK with it, it proves you lost on debate.

BTW, let me ask you again, do you think worst security would bring innoviatons, even based on tech transfer? Final chance ahh!

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The president-elect also said he will impose a 10% additional tariff on imports from China as the leading manufacturer of the precursor chemicals used by drug cartels to manufacture fentanyl, a highly potent synthetic opioid that is now the single largest cause of drug overdose deaths in the US.


Ed Bisch, who lost his 18-year-old son Eddie to a prescription opioid overdose in 2001, said that tariffs are a sign that Trump “means business”.

We have to fight the CCP criminals that re making Mexico and the US having deaths the americans drug users and Mexico cartem Violence

Well done Trump kick out the scum down to China