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[rockdog]

If that they case we Mexican are building Leap engines and they are ours since they are being built and ensambled in Mexico.

Of course not they are not Mexican so are those cars, Chinese brands are not top makers do not dream.

Stop drinking crapola, in buses Mexico makes a lot of trucks and cars mostly american brands, in cars mostly american and Japanese, and the Mexican consumer recently buys a lot of chevrolets, MG is the only Chinese brand that sells, the rest they do not sell well

very good progress


View: https://x.com/JChengWSJ/status/1859461990537736319?t=ZPnKQRGfuU9Qi2WcTRJvrQ&s=19


View: https://x.com/Tablesalt13/status/1857069212495147156?t=HpALMFpln96PeFV54-DnQw&s=19


View: https://x.com/dunne_insights/status/1859619392096551186?t=spAzOcaWU-abST-2ybmRjA&s=19

 

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The ten companies that sold the most cars — manufactured in Mexico and imported, between January and July 2024 —, according to information collected by Inegi, are the following:

COMPANY UNITS
Nissan 142,722
General Motors 116,838
Volkswagen 74,990
Toyota 69,147
KIA 59,828
Mazda 52,768
Stellantis 52,063
Ford 30,403
Hyundai 29,384
MG Motor 29,152
As for models, these are the most popular, according to figures collected between January and August 2024:

Los autos más vendidos en México en lo que va de 2024

Las camionetas pequeñas, llamadas SUV, están conquistando cada vez más mercado

elpais.com

You are smoking too much, most car sold in Mexico are Japanese brands by Brand alone Chinese do not sell except MG with a very Small % if Nissan bring cars from China does not make them Chinese, then Leap engines are Mexican but they are not.

You can post 100 times the same lie, but importing cars from China does not make the brand Chinese, Chinese brands still do not compete with Japanese or american Brands


Sheinbaum explains that the plan is to produce in the country what is currently imported from China-




View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Vbtn6kjBc

 

[rockdog]

The ten companies that sold the most cars — manufactured in Mexico and imported, between January and July 2024 —, according to information collected by Inegi, are the following:

COMPANY UNITS
Nissan 142,722
General Motors 116,838
Volkswagen 74,990
Toyota 69,147
KIA 59,828
Mazda 52,768
Stellantis 52,063
Ford 30,403
Hyundai 29,384
MG Motor 29,152
As for models, these are the most popular, according to figures collected between January and August 2024:

Los autos más vendidos en México en lo que va de 2024

Las camionetas pequeñas, llamadas SUV, están conquistando cada vez más mercado

elpais.com

You are smoking too much, most car sold in Mexico are Japanese brands by Brand alone Chinese do not sell except MG with a very Small % if Nissan bring cars from China does not make them Chinese, then Leap engines are Mexican but they are not.

You can post 100 times the same lie, but importing cars from China does not make the brand Chinese, Chinese brands still do not compete with Japanese or american Brands

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Sheinbaum explains that the plan is to produce in the country what is currently imported from China-
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Vbtn6kjBc

Good progress, even for US brands.

China Conquers Mexico’s Automotive Market, and the US Is Worried​

China Conquers Mexico’s Automotive Market, and the US Is Worried

Led by the automaker BYD, China has established itself as the main car supplier in Mexico. The US worries China could use Mexico as a “back door” to sidestep tariffs and gain footing in the US market.

www.wired.com

If US is worried, then China and US united to harvest in Mexico, it has very weak R&D capabilties anyway. Such as:

The New Dodge Attitude Is Actually a Chinese Car​

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The Attitude isn't the only Chinese Dodge sold in Mexico as the local-market Journey is basically a second-generation Trumpchi GS5.

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https://www.motor1.com/news/730852/dodge-attitude-rebadged-chinese-car/

The Dodge Journey, a beloved family crossover from 2009 to 2020, has transitioned into the Mexican market as a Chinese-produced product. Despite this shift, the second-generation Journey remains a success and an integral part of the Dodge lineup in Mexico.

The Chinese-Built 2024 Dodge Journey Thrives in Mexico

The Dodge Journey, a beloved family crossover from 2009 to 2020, has transitioned into the Mexican market as a Chinese-produced product. Despite this shift, the second-generation Journey remains a success and an integral part of the Dodge lineup in Mexico. This model, developed through...

moparinsiders.com

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Analysis: Chinese cars pour in to Mexico, rattling the USMCA

Analysis: Chinese cars pour in to Mexico, rattling the USMCA

Mexico is awash in Chinese cars. The U.S. and Canada look at the situation and wonder: What exactly is going on with our trusted partner in the USMCA?

mexiconewsdaily.com

Chinese Vehicles Lead the Pack in Mexico’s Import Market

Chinese Vehicles Lead the Pack in Mexico's Import Market

Between January and August 2024, vehicles imported from China led the Mexican automotive market with 19.9%.

www.riotimesonline.com

 

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Good progress, even for US brands.

China Conquers Mexico’s Automotive Market, and the US Is Worried​

China Conquers Mexico’s Automotive Market, and the US Is Worried

Led by the automaker BYD, China has established itself as the main car supplier in Mexico. The US worries China could use Mexico as a “back door” to sidestep tariffs and gain footing in the US market.

www.wired.com

If US is worried, then China and US united to harvest in Mexico, it has very weak R&D capabilties anyway. Such as:

The New Dodge Attitude Is Actually a Chinese Car​

...


The Attitude isn't the only Chinese Dodge sold in Mexico as the local-market Journey is basically a second-generation Trumpchi GS5.

...

https://www.motor1.com/news/730852/dodge-attitude-rebadged-chinese-car/

The Dodge Journey, a beloved family crossover from 2009 to 2020, has transitioned into the Mexican market as a Chinese-produced product. Despite this shift, the second-generation Journey remains a success and an integral part of the Dodge lineup in Mexico.

The Chinese-Built 2024 Dodge Journey Thrives in Mexico

The Dodge Journey, a beloved family crossover from 2009 to 2020, has transitioned into the Mexican market as a Chinese-produced product. Despite this shift, the second-generation Journey remains a success and an integral part of the Dodge lineup in Mexico. This model, developed through...

moparinsiders.com

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Analysis: Chinese cars pour in to Mexico, rattling the USMCA

Analysis: Chinese cars pour in to Mexico, rattling the USMCA

Mexico is awash in Chinese cars. The U.S. and Canada look at the situation and wonder: What exactly is going on with our trusted partner in the USMCA?

mexiconewsdaily.com

Chinese Vehicles Lead the Pack in Mexico’s Import Market

Chinese Vehicles Lead the Pack in Mexico's Import Market

Between January and August 2024, vehicles imported from China led the Mexican automotive market with 19.9%.

www.riotimesonline.com

Pure propaganda and by the way cheap one.

As the Video I posted shows, the Mexican government has already talked to American and Canadians diplomats to increase the amount of goods made in Mexico and replace imports from China and India is doing the same and Europe the same, get it.

Ford also designs cars in Mexico, so what? those cars are made by Ford and owned by ford nothing special; same Volkswagen.

Seems you do not learn, globalization is like that, however China has a policy of dumping over capacity and price cuts that is rejected by other economies thus they set tariffs.

since China still is a corrupt and poor economy like Mexico in many ways, you have low internal consumption, this translate is the desire to export to save the very highly subsidized low profit Chinese government owned companies that have overcapacity.


But this creates a reaction since China wants to export but not buy and it is competing with companies from other countries.

So what is happening? simple closing doors to Chinese products because unfair competition .

 

[rockdog]

Pure propaganda and by the way cheap one.

*********, they are western and Mexican media

 

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U r jobless for a long time, they are western and Mexican media

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Chinese cars mean Chinese cars made by foreign and Chinese companies but the cars most sold in mexico are by Japanese brands or American brands, the cars were made in China by Japanese or american brands your assessment is so bad that is that is the case all the freighliner trucks are mexican and not Americans since they are build in mexico,


Truck makers and parts manufacturers with assembly plants and factories in Mexico include Freightliner, Kenworth, Navistar, Hino, International, DINA, MAN SE, Mercedes-Benz, Isuzu, Scania, Cummins and Detroit Diesel.

Exports of Mexican-made trucks to the U.S. in 2022 totaled 157,522, an 18% y/y increase from 2021. Exports to Canada for the year were 3,995 vehicles, a 19% y/y increase, and exports to Colombia were 2,856 units, a 25% y/y increase.

Freightliner was the top truck producer and exporter in Mexico for the year. The company built 114,951 trucks, a 16% y/y increase, and exported 103,578, a 14% y/y jump.

Mexican truck plant produces 400,000th Freightliner - Truck News

SALTILLO, Mexico – Daimler’s Saltillo, Mexico, truck manufacturing plant celebrated its 10th anniversary recently, coinciding with the production of its

www.trucknews.com

Mexico breaks record for cargo vehicle production, exports

Mexico exported 157,522 heavy-duty trucks to the U.S. in 2022, an 18% year-over-year increase.

www.freightwaves.com

so yes Kenworth is Mexican same Hinobut the reality is only DINA is Mexican so most trucks exported by Mexico are by foreign brands despite DINA also exports trucks

ID. Buzz: Volkswagen's electric Combi designed by a Mexican
The Volkswagen ID. Buzz, designed by Einar Castillo, shows its commitment to the environment and its commitment to retro

ID. Buzz: La Combi eléctrica de Volkswagen diseñada por un mexicano

La ID. Buzz de Volkswagen, diseñada por Einar Castillo, muestra su compromiso con el medio ambiente y su apuesta por lo retro

forbes.com.mx

Yes then this car is Mexican according to your logic

 

[rockdog]

View: https://x.com/ChinaBusinessS2/status/1860028945858724135?t=eYL6m4FD-Rzlt3auhs3qbw&s=19


View: https://x.com/EdwardConard/status/1859686690308133213?t=gZsMgkrcMWNHGUP4SDHcaw&s=19


View: https://x.com/resisres/status/1834730268940271791?t=eEx7qfwgUh-2GDkThUyKBQ&s=19

 

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These are the best-selling cars of each brand in Mexico
:Acura: Acura RDX (322 units)
Alfa Romeo: Alfa Romeo Tonale (211 units)
Audi: Audi A3 (1,243 units)
BAIC: BAIC X35 (591 units)(miserable sales )
Bentley: Bentley Continental (5 units)
BMW: BMW X3 (1,404 units)
Buick: Buick Envista (1,085 units)
Cadillac: Cadillac Escalade ESV (273 units
Changan: Changan CS35 Plus (1,327 units) (miserable sales )
Chirey: Chirey Tiggo 2 (6,136 units)


Chevrolet: Chevrolet Aveo (36,310 units)
Chrysler: Chrysler Pacifica (0 units)
DFSK: DFSK E5 (196 units)
Dodge: Dodge Attitude (5,262) *Sales of the new Attitude are not included
FIAT: Fiat Pulse (2,538 units)
Ford: Ford Territory (8,376 units)
GMC: GMC Terrain (1,399 units) (miserable sales )
GWM: Haval Jolion (4,280 units) (miserable sales )
Honda: Honda CR-V (7,573 units)
Hyundai: Hyundai Creta (10,970 units)

Infiniti: Infiniti QX60 (450 units)
JAC: JAC Frison (5,763 units) (miserable sales )
Jaguar: Jaguar F-Pace (45 units)
Jetour: Jetour Dashing (701 units)
Jeep: Jeep Renegade (3,737 units)
JMC: JMC Grand Avenue (603 units)(miserable sales )
KIA: KIA K3 sedan (27,154 units)
Land Rover: Range Rover Sport (427 units)
Lexus: Lexus NX (584 units)
Lincoln: Lincoln Nautilus (569 units)
Mazda: Mazda CX-30 (14,765 unit


Mercedes-Benz: Mercedes-Benz Sprinter (2,149 units) / Mercedes-Benz GLC (1,536 units)
MG Engine: MG5 (17,505 units) Only Chinese highlight
MINI: MINI Cooper 3 doors (806 units)
Mitsubishi: Mitsubishi L200 (7,824 units)
Nissan: Nissan Versa (60,389 units) Top spot Japanese
OMODA: OMODA C5 (2,177 units)(miserable sales )
Peugeot: Peugeot Partner (3,453 units)
Porsche: Porsche Cayenne (594 units)
RAM: RAM 700 (6,498 units)
Renault: Renault Kwid (11,574 units)

SEAT: SEAT Ibiza (7,420 units)
Subaru: Subaru Forester (866 units)
Suzuki: Suzuki Swift (7,691 units)
Toyota: Toyota Hilux (15,273 units)
Volkswagen: Volkswagen Virtus (18,779 units)
Volvo: Volvo EX30 (2,685 units)

Estos son los coches más vendidos de cada marca en México (2024) - Autospecs

Te contamos cuáles son todos los coches más vendidos de cada marca que comercializa automóviles en México. Hay algunas sorpresas: Te contamos cuáles son todos los coches más vendidos de cada marca que comercializa automóviles en México. Hay algunas sorpresas:

autospecs.com.mx

So no you are dreaming Chinese brands do not sale as you claim

Alstom delivers the first Long Distance Train to the Tren Maya project​

Alstom delivers the first Long Distance Train to the Tren Maya project

Mexico City, September 20, 2024 – Alstom, global leader in smart and sustainable mobility, has delivered the first Long Distance train for the Tren Maya project to the Federal Government and the National Fund for Tourism Development (FONAT

www.alstom.com

This train was partially built in Mexico, the Chinese subway were not and only is for a single line of the Mexico city Subway system

Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo, president of the Mexican government, said that in order to finalize the passenger railway projects, she held a meeting with three main train manufacturing companies: Alstom, CAF and Siemens, to find out about their availability. In addition, she assured that they will be working on building the tracks, so they are in the process of putting the project out to tender

Sheinbaum se reúne con fabricantes de trenes para proyecto de transporte de pasajeros

Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo sostuvo una reunión con tres principales empresas fabricantes de trenes: Alstom, CAF y Siemens, para conocer su disponibilidad para el proyecto de la creación de trenes para pasajeros en México.

mexicoindustry.com

No chinese company by the way CAF builds the trains in Mexico


Alstom plant in Hidalgo manufactures 120 cabins for Canadian trains

Planta de Alstom en Hidalgo fabrica 120 cabinas para trenes de Canadá

Las 120 cabinas formarán parte de los nuevos vehículos Flexity, los cuales serán clave para mejorar la experiencia de más de un millón de pasajeros que utilizan diariamente el servicio de transporte público en Canadá.

mexicoindustry.com

The Secretary of Mobility of Edomex, Daniel Andrés Sibaja, officially visited the CAF passenger train manufacturing plant in Mexico located in this municipality, where he took a tour and inquired about its current projects and its international projection.

CAF México apuesta por el desarrollo del sector ferroviario de pasajeros

CAF México apuesta por el desarrollo del sector ferroviario de pasajeros

www.noticiasneo.com

 

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*********, they are western and Mexican media

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The 20 best-selling car brands in Mexico
Market Share by Brand
These 10 car brands dominate more than 80% of sales generated from January to September 2024 :

Nissan: 17.0%
General Motors: 14.0% (Includes Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, Cadillac)
Volkswagen: 11.8% (Includes Audi, Bentley, Porsche, Seat)
Toyota: 8.4%
Kia: 7.1%
Mazda: 6.4%
Stellantis: 6.3% (Includes Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Jeep, Peugeot and Ram)
MG Motor: 3.6% (best Chinese brand)
Ford: 3.6%
Hyundai: 3.5%
Others: 18.4


The 20 best-selling car brands in Mexico
These figures clearly show how the best-selling car brands performed in the period from January to September 2024:

Brand Position Jan-Sep 2024 September 2024 Market Share 2024 Variation
1 Nissan 182,988 18,727 17.00% 4.40%
2 General Motors 151,191 16,197 14.00% 15.10%
3 Volkswagen 97,973 11,490 9.10% 22.30%
4 Toyota 90,256 10,193 8.40% 22.30%
5 Kia 76,577 8,002 7.10% 9.50%
6 Mazda 68,980 7,760 6.40% 29.80%
7 Chrysler 44,386 4,593 4.10% -13.10%
8 MG Engine 39,007 4,823 3.60% -3.70%
9 Ford Motor 38,738 3,667 3.60% 15.60%
10 Hyundai 37,802 3,992 3.50% 7.30%
11 Suzuki 32,029 3,313 3.00% 17.10%
12 Honda 31,062 3,392 2.90% 26.30%
13 Renault 22,073 2,338 2.00% -31.50%
14 Chirey Motor 20,641 1,828 1.90% -30.90%
15 SEAT 19,518 2,122 1.80% 27.60%
16 JAC 18,082 2,121 1.70% 24.30%
17 Mitsubishi 17,593 2,214 1.60% 23.60%
18 Peugeot 14,223 1,799 1.30% 35.50%
19 BMW Group 12,223 1,170 1.10% 7%
20 Great Wall Motor 10,305 1,179 1.00%

fabricantes de trenes en mexico caf - Google Search

Total market share of Chinese Brands is a small 8% and Chery due to low quality and scams lost market share is China taking over? well pure propaganda

 

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GENERAL MOTORS REMAINS THE LEADING IMPORTER FROM CHINA FOR THE MEXICAN MARKET​

In the January-July 2024 period, a total of 551,938 units have been imported, solidifying General Motors' position as the top importer of vehicles from China to Mexico.​

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As for the brands of Chinese origin that market vehicles in Mexico, they totaled 58,928 units, this represents a 7.1% share of total sales; In contrast, in 2023 the same brands placed 57,605 vehicles, this was 7.7% participation.

General Motors Remains the Leading Importer from China for the Mexican Market

In the accumulated period from January to July 2024, sales of light vehicles in Mexico reached a level of 833,411

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Brand Position Jan-Sep 2024 September 2024 Market Share 2024 Variation
1 Nissan 182,988 18,727 17.00% 4.40%
2 General Motors 151,191 16,197 14.00% 15.10%
3 Volkswagen 97,973 11,490 9.10% 22.30%
4 Toyota 90,256 10,193 8.40% 22.30%
5 Kia 76,577 8,002 7.10% 9.50%
6 Mazda 68,980 7,760 6.40% 29.80%
7 Chrysler 44,386 4,593 4.10% -13.10%
8 MG Engine 39,007 4,823 3.60% -3.70%
9 Ford Motor 38,738 3,667 3.60% 15.60%
10 Hyundai 37,802 3,992 3.50% 7.30%
11 Suzuki 32,029 3,313 3.00% 17.10%
12 Honda 31,062 3,392 2.90% 26.30%
13 Renault 22,073 2,338 2.00% -31.50%
14 Chirey Motor 20,641 1,828 1.90% -30.90%
15 SEAT 19,518 2,122 1.80% 27.60%
16 JAC 18,082 2,121 1.70% 24.30%
17 Mitsubishi 17,593 2,214 1.60% 23.60%
18 Peugeot 14,223 1,799 1.30% 35.50%
19 BMW Group 12,223 1,170 1.10% 7%
20 Great Wall Motor 10,305 1,179 1.00%


We can conclude the best sellers are Japanese; and Chinese made cars by GM an american brand is the top Importer so in conclusion Chinese owned brands do not really sell

 

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GENERAL MOTORS REMAINS THE LEADING IMPORTER FROM CHINA FOR THE MEXICAN MARKET​

In the January-July 2024 period, a total of 551,938 units have been imported, solidifying General Motors' position as the top importer of vehicles from China to Mexico.​

13 August, 2024

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As for the brands of Chinese origin that market vehicles in Mexico, they totaled 58,928 units, this represents a 7.1% share of total sales; In contrast, in 2023 the same brands placed 57,605 vehicles, this was 7.7% participation.

General Motors Remains the Leading Importer from China for the Mexican Market

In the accumulated period from January to July 2024, sales of light vehicles in Mexico reached a level of 833,411

t21.us

Brand Position Jan-Sep 2024 September 2024 Market Share 2024 Variation
1 Nissan 182,988 18,727 17.00% 4.40%
2 General Motors 151,191 16,197 14.00% 15.10%
3 Volkswagen 97,973 11,490 9.10% 22.30%
4 Toyota 90,256 10,193 8.40% 22.30%
5 Kia 76,577 8,002 7.10% 9.50%
6 Mazda 68,980 7,760 6.40% 29.80%
7 Chrysler 44,386 4,593 4.10% -13.10%
8 MG Engine 39,007 4,823 3.60% -3.70%
9 Ford Motor 38,738 3,667 3.60% 15.60%
10 Hyundai 37,802 3,992 3.50% 7.30%
11 Suzuki 32,029 3,313 3.00% 17.10%
12 Honda 31,062 3,392 2.90% 26.30%
13 Renault 22,073 2,338 2.00% -31.50%
14 Chirey Motor 20,641 1,828 1.90% -30.90%
15 SEAT 19,518 2,122 1.80% 27.60%
16 JAC 18,082 2,121 1.70% 24.30%
17 Mitsubishi 17,593 2,214 1.60% 23.60%
18 Peugeot 14,223 1,799 1.30% 35.50%
19 BMW Group 12,223 1,170 1.10% 7%
20 Great Wall Motor 10,305 1,179 1.00%


We can conclude the best sellers are Japanese; and Chinese made cars by GM an american brand is the top Importer so in conclusion Chinese owned brands do not really sell

Mexicans don't like local brands?

 

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Mexicans don't like local brands?

We do but Mexico is a capitalist country, we have the technology to build cars and we build them

Meet Zacua, Mexico’s first electric car brand

Zacua has sold its first 100 compact electric vehicles, and is laying the groundwork for the EV industry in Mexico, says CEO Nazareth Black

dialogue.earth

The Mexican manufacturers are developing electric cars and we build trucks.

I guess you think China made great but technology is 2024 can spread easily Internet, Telephone airplanes makes technology spreading quickly

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf_JMhnaa0w

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qc79HnfWs8

 

[E-195]

Mexicans don't like local brands?

Mexico has the technology to make several common technologies however prices might be higher due to wrong policies or financial constrains.

He have been building cars of airplanes for over a century, however building a big successful company requires financial health and right approaches.

In Latin America only Brazil has achieved that goal with Embraer or Marcopolo.
In Mexico several companies exist, with some success but also failures.

The technology is not the problem, but the financial success, thus to answer your question Mexicans buy the best product for the least price, but thanks to 2019 covid panthemic and the Free trade agreement; we will localize more production in Mexico and that means we will try to buy less from China and since you do not buy from us the USA, Canada and Mexico will limit your products you like it or not

China Auto Show Sees Low Turnout: Jaguar, Chevrolet, and Suppliers Exit Amid Industry Struggles​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj1H6LDXzGc

 

[rockdog]

Mexicans don't like local brands?

CRRC is most famous brand on train & railway system, it's smart Mexico chose them.


View: https://x.com/carlitosonchina/status/1563939718823399425?t=7vbMn8OLkE4QY3G3-0PD0A&s=19


View: https://x.com/resisres/status/1834730268940271791?t=ljw3t8AjqQi7DcMd7hz7zA&s=19


View: https://x.com/thinking_panda/status/1772879624646676534?t=cL_GsxtpVeLX1wU7SJ598w&s=19

 

[rockdog]

Mexicans don't like local brands?

They hardly make any hi tech product independently. Because Mexico is not a truly industrialized nation. It's can be thought as banana republic of US capital. They would produce profitable products to US's Japan's even Chinese brands, but they won't allow they have competitive brand.



View: https://x.com/RudyRomo707/status/1745849557312045085?t=zMetsQqGO25qq2SovIABlA&s=19



View: https://x.com/tphuang/status/1741161606187245680?t=bnP3bp_LGxVS6JdYGn0i_g&s=19


View: https://x.com/resisres/status/1829313472506540307?t=_c6pxBHhQDrAR6DDafK2Kw&s=19

 

[rockdog]

View: https://youtu.be/ZuLfXa72BQ8?si=LlpxWw5K0TvzjjyJ