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Recent discussions online suggest that China's machine tool industry lags 50 years behind Europe, the United States, and Japan. While this claim may seem exaggerated, comparative data indicates a significant gap. In the 1990s, small workshops in Japan were already ahead of China, a country recognized for its manufacturing capabilities. The spindle speed of Chinese machine tools is only a quarter of that in other countries. In the field of advanced CNC machine tools, China has yet to develop its own version, while other countries have already introduced newer generations. This disparity has led to frequent online discussions about China's machine tool industry. Two commonly cited arguments are the "manufacturing collapse theory," which suggests that if China loses access to foreign machine tools, its manufacturing sector would struggle, and the "defense collapse theory," which argues that without Japanese machine tools, China would face challenges in producing aircraft carriers and fighter jets.Join this channel to get access to perks:


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E-195 said:

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IBM, often called the "Big Blue," is officially ending its 32-year presence in China. On February 28, the company sent out an email announcing its exit without much of a farewell.Join this channel to get access to perks:
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The ‘De-IOE’ in China


China has recently launched its so-called ‘De-IOE’ programme, a programme aimed at reducing dependence on US-developed softwares and service companies and enabling businesses to use Chinese-developed alternatives. The ‘De-IOE’ campaign is China’s attempt to decrease dependence on US softwares and service firms, chiefly IBM, Oracle and EMC, by providing incentives to state enterprises to use alternatives softwares and service companies.


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The ‘De-IOE’ in China

China has recently launched its so-called ‘De-IOE’ programme, a programme aimed at reducing dependence on US-developed softwares and service companies and enabling businesses to use Chinese-developed alternatives. The ‘De-IOE’ campaign is China’s attempt to decrease dependence on US softwares...
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E-195 said:
Recent discussions online suggest that China's machine tool industry lags 50 years behind Europe, the United States, and Japan. While this claim may seem exaggerated, comparative data indicates a significant gap. In the 1990s, small workshops in Japan were already ahead of China, a country recognized for its manufacturing capabilities. The spindle speed of Chinese machine tools is only a quarter of that in other countries. In the field of advanced CNC machine tools, China has yet to develop its own version, while other countries have already introduced newer generations. This disparity has led to frequent online discussions about China's machine tool industry. Two commonly cited arguments are the "manufacturing collapse theory," which suggests that if China loses access to foreign machine tools, its manufacturing sector would struggle, and the "defense collapse theory," which argues that without Japanese machine tools, China would face challenges in producing aircraft carriers and fighter jets.Join this channel to get access to perks:


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rockdog said:
Do not redeem it! Saar!
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Was that a yes or no ? @Btw assuming all these scams are added to the GVA of the PRC will confiscating the amount result in loss in GDP numbers. Kindly check with MSS & let us know .
 
1741482429176.webpCustoms unions are groups of countries that apply one common system of procedures, rules and tariffs for all or almost all their imports, exports and transiting goods. Usually, countries participating in customs unions share common trade and competition policies.s are groups of countries that apply one common system of procedures, rules and tariffs for all or almost all their imports, exports and transiting goods. Usually, countries participating in customs unions share common trade and competition policies.

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This section will explain what customs unions are and how they benefit your trade.
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Mexico to review tariffs on China: Which industries are affected by Chinese products, according to Sheinbaum?
Chinese companies have moved production to Mexico and imported from the country to the US since Trump imposed tariffs on them.

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum said her country would review tariffs on Chinese shipments, a move that could give the Trump administration a victory in its attempt to build a “Fortress North America” that blocks shipments from the Asian nation.

“We have to review the tariffs we have with China,” Sheinbaum said at a press conference on Thursday, March 6.

She pointed to Mexico’s problems in textile and footwear production, saying, “A lot of the entry of Chinese products into Mexico caused this industry to fall in our country.”

The comments come after President Donald Trump offered significant reprieves to Mexico and Canada, the United States’ two largest trading partners, by exempting products from those nations that are covered by the North American trade agreement known as T-MEC from their 25 percent tariffs.

Trump leaves Trudeau and Canada in peace: He can impose reciprocal tariffs from TODAY
Trump's decision marked a significant change. On Tuesday he had announced the largest increase in tariffs in a century, only to backtrack 48 hours later when stocks were affected and Republicans expressed concern about the economic consequences.

Donald Trump decided to reduce the tariffs after speaking with Sheinbaum, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and executives of the auto companies. (Alex Brandon/AP)

Trump 'gives in' and leaves aside the application of tariffs for Mexico and Canada
Trump decided to reduce the tariffs after
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México revisará aranceles a China: ¿Qué industrias son afectadas por productos chinos, según Sheinbaum?

Claudia Sheinbaum aseguró en su conferencia ‘mañanera’ que su Gobierno iba a revisar los aranceles a los envíos chinos.
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rockdog said:

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You still do not understand economics

I will tell you what was spoken in Mexico.


Mexico is highly dependent on the USA market we need to diversify, shall we diversify with China?

Answer was not since China does not buy from Mexico and we have competing economies..

Sheimbaun says that we should substitute Chinese products with Mexican products, Trump does not want Mexico to have a bigger trade deficit, however reality imposes its weight to Trump, the USA is highly integrated with Mexico.

Possible outcome the USA decides Mexico is an enemy but they need us, so they still keep the free trade agrement with restrictions.


They decide Trump is an Idiot annoying Canada and Mexico and any way a Customs Union allows the USA with some restrictions control its economic partners , however allowing Mexico and Canada some degree of freedom.

Customs Union Means we will have a trade war with China as a Block, and the North American block.

What well mexico do? reduce Chinese trade deficits and become the Chinese version in the North American block, that means we are going to invest more in Mexican technology.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkG3Ql3lupM&t=54s
FROM MEXICO TO THE WORLD: THE ERA OF 100% MEXICAN SEMICONDUCTORS HAS STARTED
President Sheinbaum explained that they are working with institutions such as INAOE, Cinvestav and UNAM to create a semiconductor design center, with the objective of boosting technological sovereignty and streamlining patent processes in the country.
00:00 Introduction
03:16 Internet expansion in rural areas of Mexico
05:25 Electrification of rural areas
07:07 Semiconductor design center.


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QSM Semiconductors, semiconductor development, from design to manufacturing

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can you quote any one from Instagram? it is the typical propaganda tactic, quote no ones to push an agenda
 
rockdog said:

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most of these Chinese assembly lines are set up to avoid high tariffs, the core components are still sourced from Chinese manufacturing lines, this is only possible if CCP has “good” relationship with host countries.
Ultimately the tarrifs will be applied by consumer nations on these front ends also.
 
Spacemarine said:
do u urself believe this shit u post?
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Of course I do. It's consistent with what I've heard in China.

I have said here more than once that the end of this year is the champagne moment for China's semiconductor industry.

By the way, this Korean expert kim is a professional

Dr. Kim (김서연)

@I_loves_deep_nn
Current TSMC, Ex. Samsung, IBM Research, Los Alamos, CERN, NASA. PhD EECS
@UCBerkeley
. Lover of Deep Neural Networks & Spicy Chips.
 
helin said:
Of course I do. It's consistent with what I've heard in China.

I have said here more than once that the end of this year is the champagne moment for China's semiconductor industry.

By the way, this Korean expert kim is a professional

Dr. Kim (김서연)

@I_loves_deep_nn
Current TSMC, Ex. Samsung, IBM Research, Los Alamos, CERN, NASA. PhD EECS
@UCBerkeley
. Lover of Deep Neural Networks & Spicy Chips.
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You know you chinis can fool the world not Indians 🤣
Why even try?

Indians know exactly how much you show and how much you actually have this in Indian Defence Forum not Tiktok buddy.

All your mlech chini CCP civilisation is based on simple chinese principle : “lie, cheat if you can” 🤣🤣🤣

Now coming to topic no CCP PLA sponsored entities are not even close to ASML, ASML has taken lead over nearest competition by couple of generations now.
 
Spacemarine said:
You know you chinis can fool the world not Indians 🤣
Why even try?

Indians know exactly how much you show and how much you actually have this in Indian Defence Forum not Tiktok buddy.

All your mlech chini CCP civilisation is based on simple chinese principle : “lie, cheat if you can” 🤣🤣🤣

Now coming to topic no CCP PLA sponsored entities are not even close to ASML, ASML has taken lead over nearest competition by couple of generations now.
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I don't pay much attention to what Indians say about semiconductors,

I think the Indian semiconductor industry is at a very low level

Because they say more than they do
 
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China Develops Domestic EUV Tool, ASML Monopoly in Trouble

China's domestic extreme ultraviolet (EUV) lithography development is far from a distant dream. The newest system, now undergoing testing at Huawei's Dongguan facility, leverages laser-induced discharge plasma (LDP) technology, representing a potentially disruptive approach to EUV light...
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Believe it or not
 
helin said:
I don't pay much attention to what Indians say about semiconductors,

I think the Indian semiconductor industry is at a very low level

Because they say more than they do
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Indian Semiconductor Designing is world class if you dont have that info that almost all of chip companies has R@D centres in India from decades and many of commercial chips has Indian designers working on same then indeed you are yourself a novice also India produces all her strategic chips used in military and space applications
 
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