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[Ayan Barat]

We have to now force people to join us and even then, they don't really patriciate and forget after registering. I got few to join but they rarely logs in.

Hmmm, good point

You can also try offering ₹2,100 to one unmarried girl above 18 in family if someone makes an account and keeps their presence here.
@haldilal can easily fund us

 

[Corvus Splendens]

We have more guests online than members right now.

Few people I did persuade to join old DFI went back to twitter fast because they are only interested in news from "official" handles. Some like sticking to reddit because "more pictures" there.

 

[Anants]

There are specialized forums already available for the stuff which you are requesting to add here. Our novelty is the Defense discussion, and we want to keep it to that only.



We have had this discussion before. Things have changed drastically in last 2 decades. Back during 2010-15 era people used to search for forums like us and sign up and continue discussions. But now People don't like to sign up anywhere. Their attention span has decreased and get distracted easily.

Twitter has become one place for all things, and most don't bother to join anything else.

We have to now force people to join us and even then, they don't really patriciate and forget after registering. I got few to join but they rarely logs in.​

Not really, see Team-bhp - it has section discussing computers, diY, ships, planes and what not - not related to cars. And even for defence - photo section is must. Not pulling legs or criticizing - genuinely want people to join organically. Twitter has its limitations otherwise why discord platforms getting popular.

By the way just random musing here - Why not try using Mid journey to create videos posts summary of Defense threads on youtube/twitter - and link to get redirected here. For eg on Kaveri, Artillery or what Arihant , Ayaan etc on DFI post. Should be interesting experiment.

 

[Suryavanshi]

@crazywithmath @Jackprince

Any other bengalis here?

I have to vent to someone who might understand.


I sometimes seeth in my mind when I think about the land lost to kongladesh.
East bengal I would say is actual bengal described in poem and stories of bengal literature, marshland, wetlands, mangroves you name it.

It's a beautiful country lost to swamp goblins and further it continues to torture its hindu heritage.

I ain't even bengali btw but seeing these aesthetics makes me seeth endlessly. I wish the end of civilization just so that we can cull kanglus out of bangladesh.
Rant over.

 

[vampyrbladez]

@crazywithmath @Jackprince

Any other bengalis here?

I have to vent to someone who might understand.


I sometimes seeth in my mind when I think about the land lost to kongladesh.
East bengal I would say is actual bengal described in poem and stories of bengaki literature, marshland, wetlands, mangroves you name it.

It's a beautiful country lost to swamp goblins and father it continues to torture its hindu heritage.

I ain't even bengali btw but seeing these aesthetics makes me seeth endlessly. I wish the end of civilization just so that we can cull kanglus out of bangladesh.
Rant over.

Someday perhaps.........

 

[crazywithmath]

@crazywithmath @Jackprince

Any other bengalis here?

I have to vent to someone who might understand.


I sometimes seeth in my mind when I think about the land lost to kongladesh.
East bengal I would say is actual bengal described in poem and stories of bengaki literature, marshland, wetlands, mangroves you name it.

It's a beautiful country lost to swamp goblins and father it continues to torture its hindu heritage.

I ain't even bengali btw but seeing these aesthetics makes me seeth endlessly. I wish the end of civilization just so that we can cull kanglus out of bangladesh.
Rant over.

Tbh, you can find similar aesthetics on this side too. Outsiders do not hear of them much often because the state tourism Ministry is dysfunctional. From the snow covered peaks of the Himalayas to the mangroves, from the beaches down south to the lush green forests of the Dooars, from the beautiful freshwater lakes of Cooch Behar to the serenity of Tagore's Shantiniketan, from the ruins of Karnasubarna (capital of the Gaudas and later, the Palas) and the Gangaridais to the temples of the Mallas of Bishnupur - this state should have been the tourism capital of India; too bad not to be....

As far as kanglus are concerned, of course they have more of it because they got the bigger chunk. And Bangla literature (mostly) features the rivers and landscape of WB only - because this side was the centre of the 18th/19th century Indian renaissance and kanglu Ms barely produced any poet/novelist of note.

Personally, I do not consider kanglus true Bangalis. They chose to break away from our traditions and the heavily islamized dialects they speak are anything but Bangla.

 

[Suryavanshi]

bruh

Hello operator are you in the age range of 18 to 22

I am doing in a scientific survey so I need your answer

 

[Operatorr]

Hello operator are you in the age range of 18 to 22

I am doing in a scientific survey so I need your answer

Hello Suryavanshi are you in the age range of 18 to 22

I am doing in a scientific survey so I need your answer

 

[Suryavanshi]

Hello Suryavanshi are you in the age range of 18 to 22

I am doing in a scientific survey so I need your answer

Nah seriously.
My age is 28 this year

 

[Operatorr]

Nah seriously.
My age is 28 this year

payi lagu dada

i am 20
lol what survey r u exactly doing tho?

 

[Suryavanshi]

payi laagu dada

Kush raho babu

i am 20

I guessed so.

Now I'll explain why I asked.

You see I have been noticing a pattern in username.
Younglings in your age bracket are using terms like operator very frequently. This is a marker that you are likely young.
The term operator is glamorized very recently and older generation aren't very familiar with it, at least not enough to use it in their username.

I guess this is due to the growing influence of FPS games like rainbow six and wider coverage of Special force documentary and youtube channel.

 

[Operatorr]

Kush raho babu

I guessed so.

Now I'll explain why I asked.

You see I have been noticing a pattern in username.
Younglings in your age bracket are using terms like operator very frequently. This is a marker that you are likely young.
The term operator is glamorized very recently and older generation aren't very familiar with it, at least not enough to use it in their username.

I guess this is due to the growing influence of FPS games like rainbow six and wider coverage of Special force documentary and youtube channel.

if it wasnt for you age i would have thought this was written by chatgpt

 

[Azaad]

Tbh, you can find similar aesthetics on this side too. Outsiders do not hear of them much often because the state tourism Ministry is dysfunctional. From the snow covered peaks of the Himalayas to the mangroves, from the beaches down south to the lush green forests of the Dooars, from the beautiful freshwater lakes of Cooch Behar to the serenity of Tagore's Shantiniketan, from the ruins of Karnasubarna (capital of the Gaudas and later, the Palas) and the Gangaridais to the temples of the Mallas of Bishnupur - this state should have been the tourism capital of India; too bad not to be....

As far as kanglus are concerned, of course they have more of it because they got the bigger chunk. And Bangla literature (mostly) features the rivers and landscape of WB only - because this side was the centre of the 18th/19th century Indian renaissance and kanglu Ms barely produced any poet/novelist of note.

Personally, I do not consider kanglus true Bangalis. They chose to break away from our traditions and the heavily islamized dialects they speak are anything but Bangla.

Wasn't it also the case that the lower reaches of Bangladesh were uninhabitable swamps / mangrove forests which were literally drained during the Mughal period & later turning it into cultivable lands with them inviting folks from surrounding areas to share the aborigines there , all of whom were converted & formed part of the lower classes viz peasants , artisans etc ?

Btw this ghoti vs bangal debate is also an old one with both sides claiming they inhabited the better part.

I'm assuming you're a ghoti.

 

[Suryavanshi]

if it wasnt for you age i would have thought this was written by chatgpt

It's a necessary skill as you grow older, this also has a added benefit that it helps you in understanding women.
One or two nasty encounters with women will force you to think certain way.

See next time you observe a person's behavior do try to hypothise as to why he holds certain opinion or ideals. What was his life like what must he have went through to shape him into the way he/she is.

 

[Ayan Barat]

You see I have been noticing a pattern in username

Good...so now explain me the username "FutureWoman21".

I neither have the courage to ask this person nor am I able to ignore him/her/them. So now you're going to tell me

 

[GaudaNaresh]

@crazywithmath @Jackprince

Any other bengalis here?

I have to vent to someone who might understand.


I sometimes seeth in my mind when I think about the land lost to kongladesh.
East bengal I would say is actual bengal described in poem and stories of bengal literature, marshland, wetlands, mangroves you name it.

It's a beautiful country lost to swamp goblins and further it continues to torture its hindu heritage.

I ain't even bengali btw but seeing these aesthetics makes me seeth endlessly. I wish the end of civilization just so that we can cull kanglus out of bangladesh.
Rant over.

These are beels. Aka swampy lakes that form when river changes its meander course and make network of meander lakes.
Trust me when i say, beels look good in pictures but you do not want to be there. First, the minute sun goes down, u have a cloud of mosquitos over your head. Second, its humid as hell and u often get ambushed by startled water buffaloes who chill under the beel lotus reeds and react like angry cows.

PS: Any other bengalis ?? How dare you forget Gaudeshwara, Gaudabhallava, Parameshwaera, Uttarapathesvamin, the GaudaNaresh ???

 

[johny_baba]

you can't match @johny_baba in small arms

ara bhai i'm no expert at all, i was only able to "look far" in the field of small arms because i was lucky enough to be able to stand on shoulders of the titans like 'Kunal Biswas' dada, @Alby , 'Ghost', 'Vorschlaghammer', 'Hammer Head' sir and others at good ol' D F I

now if you want to know about how it all began...my journey with field of defense overall started in wayy early in childhood, some pointers

=> first of all, I'm "cursed" with curiosity, in sense, i like to put things in 'big picture" perspective rather than digging for just details; and i like to..."observe" things i guess? that's perhaps why i can differentiate between some variants of AK by looking at photos.

=> remember 'Champak' kids magazine? It played a big role in making me a reader of things, even if it started with chuha billi stories...oh and believe me or not, one particular issue of Champak in Gujarati with some 7-8 page comic in it literally introduced me to the Indian Navy, like it had hand-drawn summary of 1971 attack on Karachi, then INS Vikrant the first, Sea Hawks and at the end they even introduced then current fleet of BAE Sea Harriers and mentioned that it could go straight up like a helicopter, a VTOL...
reading it all as a kid was super thrilling, and must've intrigued my curious-observant mind to learn about it later on
sadly, i don't have that particular champak issue with Sea Harrier comic on me anymore, my parents gave away my precious collection of storybooks, magazines and all to my younger cousins who never bothered much to read and learn from them

=> as i grew up a bit I started reading a local informative magazine called "Safari" - and oh boy, it introduced me to field of defense further, like just look at this screenshot, this time a detailed article on same Sea Harrier i was introduced to as a kid but for a little mature audience

isn't it so informative? and yes that's in Gujarati (although the family that runs this magazine are Bengali 'immigrants' to Gujarat, i cannot think some local gujju intellectual even attempting at such things lol)

this magazine played a HUUUUUUUGE role in my upbringing as a defense enthusiast, as it introduced me to things like world war 1 and 2, battle tanks, fighter jets, small arms, '65 war, '71 war, kargil war and what not through my developmental years, ALL THAT IN PRE-JIO INTERNET ERA, right now i'm sitting on a collection of good 300-some issues of this 'Safari' magazine

=> other thing that also played a little role in my leanings for defense things,
tv and video games lol
as a kid, i was a big fan of G. I. Joe cartoons, Jonny Quest - apart from usual cartoon network things, but i can still give you some examples how i was intrigued by some games
> a game called 'Contra Force'
now it's similar to contra, but instead of blasting aliens, you blast terrorists in it, and it did have some depictions of military stuff, like...

first screen, some naval cannon
second screen, LITERALLY F-18 HORNET, WINGS FOLDED, ON AIRCRAFT CAREER?
third screen, some VTOL ?!
fourth screen, definitely A-10 Thunderbolt II

yeah yeah it's all fictional and back as a kid I barely knew their names but when i get to learn about it i couldn't help but remember stuffs i saw in this game as a kid and relate with it, only because of my curiosity

=>then, a game that started it all for me in terms of small arms,
Project I.G.I
not only it introduced me to some basic level of mil-sim (although enemies in the game are dumb as a rock but still), it also introduced me to a respectable cache of weapons from MP5 to AK and all

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz6b2ioHttQ
playing this game again and again, i became pretty familiar to weapons here and had basic understanding of reloading and purpose (like pistol is for close range, assault rifles are general purpose, sniper is for long range etc)

NOW, the incident that made me pursue small arms like a passionate enthusiast...
One good day, around 2009 times i think, Gujarat Sarkaar was celebrating 50th Anniversary of formation of the state here, 'Swarnim Gujarat' whatever at Amreli (because Gujarat's first CM hailed from that place), among these celebrations some exhibition was held to showcase captured firearms, and luckily i was there too
So during this exhibition, i was little aware of their names as well as basic functions from games, and there I saw an AK for first time to this up close, and i noticed that...'charging handle is on other side?' - i mean prior to that my only introduction to AK was in Project I.G.I video game and as you could see from that vdo above, the AK has 'mirrored' model where charging handle's on left side, while real life AK that i saw there it was on right side? so i curiously inquired about it all to the guys there, and luckily he kinda noticed that curiosity, that spark in my eye, and explained those captured firearms to a teenager like me by cycling and dry-firing it...i was able to name and point out some of guns like AK, RPG, PK, Dragunov, Grenades...and stuff that I didn't know about like SLR, INSAS, MAG 58 and so i was introduced by those guys at exhibition...out of all bheed i was perhaps only teenager kid asking questions so those guys replied me with same enthusiasm or perhaps it was just my shear luck

This incident overjoyed me as i get to learn about real stuff, and made me realise there's still A LOT to be learnt about firearms

=> in late 2000s-early 2010s, i used to frequent to my uncle's office, as he'd gotten a computer with working internet connection there, well, mostly to play flash games but sometimes i'd also frequent to places to learn about firearms, and THAT was the moment i get to know about good ol' D F I, as well as BharatRakshakForum, and notorious defence dot pk - as a teenager i'd frequently lurk there to read about stuffs (back then i had no idea about 'registering' or contributing as a member on forums lol) and it was time I got introduced to some proper knowledge over things, and introduced to Kunal Dada, ErSakthivel and other such old school legends

once I get my own 2G internet (sic) i started reading properly over these things, and connecting my past experiences of reading informative magazines, playing video games and seeing real stuffs and all, i slowly started connecting the dots in my mind as i started getting that understanding...

then, as i got Jio, my journey of diving deeper in these matters started, with youtube, to becoming an active member at good ol' D F I, and reading and discussing about it all

so yeah, there you have it, i'm no expert, i'm just a curious-observant kid that grew older

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Wasn't it also the case that the lower reaches of Bangladesh were uninhabitable swamps / mangrove forests which were literally drained during the Mughal period & later turning it into cultivable lands with them inviting folks from surrounding areas to share the aborigines there , all of whom were converted & formed part of the lower classes viz peasants , artisans etc ?

Btw this ghoti vs bangal debate is also an old one with both sides claiming they inhabited the better part.

I'm assuming you're a ghoti.

Correct. Though Mughals didnt do much in draining the swamps.
The swamps of lower bengal existed till about 1600s, primarly due to the fact that the Podda arm didnt exist for the Ganga, the main arm was the Hoogly and where Podda is, we had a huge network of beels connecting it to teesta-mahananda system (which followed the straight down path of Brahmpautra(jomuna) today and Brahmpautra curved east in the Buri brahmpautra channel and met Meghna by Brahmanbaria, then all of them merging into the Teesta-Karatoya-Mahananda super-river.

This and the leakage of ganga via the various beels to the teesta system created a huge swampy mess in what is Khulna today.
But an earthquake changed that - it changed gradient around Rajmahal, causing ganga to shift its flow primarily to the Podda arm, withering the Hoogly arm but also creating a proper channel for podda and removing the swampy spillover marshland effect on the khulna region.

Also, Mughal and Bangal sultanate land grants to any moozie who'd come and settle were predominantly towards eastern Bangladesh, aka Chittagong and Sylhet region.
Reason being, TILL this mega-earthquake of 400-600 years ago, everything east of the buri-brahmpautra-meghna line was historical Kamrup, falling under the Kamrup kingdom and this river course shifting had made the lands of southern kamrup (Sylhet & chattogram) far more accessible from the bengal side.

 

[Ayan Barat]

=> first of all, I'm "cursed" with curiosity, in sense, i like to put things in 'big picture" perspective rather than digging for just details; and i like to..."observe" things i guess? that's perhaps why i can differentiate between some variants of AK by looking at photos.

And to teach these kinds of people a befitting lesson, God created Khyber Pass AKs.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Are Maalik...lol on this; the thing least in this form is defense. Every other thread is more or like an "Idiotic musing on something".

This forum needs good clean-up on regular basis if we really wanna highlight it. Making it more trustworthy source than Alpha and IDRW is another story in itself.

Anyways, if you really wanna increase member count on this forum then this "WhatsApp pe Jai Mata Di likhein aur teen dosto ko bheje" thing's not gonna work in the long run.

The best option in my opinion is creating a Twitter account of DFB and you all Admins and Mods deciding among them who's "moderate" enough to have access to that handle. And by tolerant I mean someone in between writing "Joy Hind" on every post and "Bloody Generol".

Have subject matter expert for each topic; you can't match @johny_baba in small arms, @Anants is for electromechanics and whatever new tech is there, @Unknowncommando is already a benchmark is pics from forces back since Facebook days, @vampyrbladez is in boaty stuff, we already have established handles like @fire starter @dfi_pk @Fatalis @AGNI 6 ICBM @Arihant Roy with excellent connections so if they write stuff then their existing base would get attracted. Use them

As we'll increase our visibility on different pages like Alpha Defence of ADGPI or logically, in a civil manner (this two points are of utmost importance, otherwise this whole scheme of mine you backfire in the most spectacular of ways) engage with the likes of Mons Rattus and AGM-114; we'll increase the traction here on this page.

Just my shitpost idea, nothing serious

as a hunter of 10+ year experience ( i have hunting permit, i hunt deer in hunting season) i am fairly versed in concepts like field dressing, long gun ( rifle) usage, etc. I am not much of a gun sports enthusiast - i am not a guy who goes to the range and shoots targets ( because i find ranges to be way too loud and i am not a loud noises type of a person) - i skeet shoot sometimes though its been a while and its boring as hell ( you almost never miss in skeet shooting and its always a contest on speed only), i am also not much of a handgun user.
But if you have questions about bolt action rifles - any and all questions pertaining to them - i can answer most of them.