DRDO and PSUs

correct me if i'm wrong, but haven't we installed SAAB IDAS EW suite on Rudra helicopters already? then have we not yet integrated it on LCH Prachand yet?! are we aiming for any other, either indigeneous or imported, ew suite for LCH Prachand, that SAAB IDAS is sidelined, or something else?
So DRDO was working on a domestic EW and MAWS suite for the helos. uska status nahi maalum. IAF didnt rush it because anyway LCH was not ready at the time. Now they may just go with SAAB in the FOC build. the LSP birds will be retained for yet more upgrades/changes as is general practice.
 
should publically hang the babu. what a dumbfk
Nothing will happen. I guess there was a data leak in 2023 as well when a DRDO scientist was involved. Babu was only sacked I guess. Never heard anything happening to him beside that.
Although, in this case hackers are involved. It's definitely at a mammoth scale. Here the babu was very careless but the leak might not be intentional.
Chini haramis run these hacker groups in these central Asian countries using different names. ISI money can have a contribution as well.
 

already there bhau, it's just, we aren't testing much nowadays like that peak period of 2018 onwards to put regular updates there and discuss over it, or those kinds of discussions simply happen in this DRDO or other missile related threads
What do you think about DRDO testing more missiles without notifying because our Sh1te media always claims test failed when they don't understand devlopement tests are numerous and won't give you operational weapon magically in a year... is this possible??
 
Okay but is there any precedence? I thought indo baboons were too incompetent to harbor such grand ambitions.
My guess it its Muricans..

its way easier for them to do it and have a motive as well. Although motive is very complex and hard to explain but the gist of it is India needs US assistance if we want to go against China. ALso warning against growing influence in Pacific Ocean. Remember Biden suddenly visiting Papua new guinea first ever visit of POTUS ahead of PM Modi.
 
They gave a middle finger to Baba Kalyani's gun and forced the M777 purchase
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You can criticize Army for n - number of points on Artillery only but not for M777. Yes, now any follow-up orders for M777 doesn't make sense but Army never showed middle finger to Kalyani ULH over M777.
Right, my bad. The M777 was planned back in 2013. And the Kalyani ULH wasn't revealed before 2020. Unrelated, but I wonder, with Army's requirement for lightness, post 2020 ULH requirements have vanished from further drafts of FARP. Army seems fine with just upgrading the existing M777 guns.
 
What do you think about DRDO testing more missiles without notifying because our Sh1te media always claims test failed when they don't understand devlopement tests are numerous and won't give you operational weapon magically in a year... is this possible??
well missile tests are too hard to cover, they are objects flying through sky and noisy at it, even if official announcements are not made, people gonna notice it, so unless we're testing out some really low flying thing like say ATGM or short range AA missile, it's gonna be noticed by everyone and thus hard to keep a secret
 
Right, my bad. The M777 was planned back in 2013. And the Kalyani ULH wasn't revealed before 2020. Unrelated, but I wonder, with Army's requirement for lightness, post 2020 ULH requirements have vanished from further drafts of FARP. Army seems fine with just upgrading the existing M777 guns.
i'm not aware of any upgrades going on with M777, the wikipedia entry suggests upgrades on M777 including ER version that's got longer 55-calibre barrel, but it also makes it heavier, so what's point of inducting an artillery that's praised for its compactness and lightweightness and then ruining those two primary things 🤷‍♂️, instead we could rather induct a dedicated 52-calibre artillery for extended range operations, no?
 
i'm not aware of any upgrades going on with M777, the wikipedia entry suggests upgrades on M777 including ER version that's got longer 55-calibre barrel, but it also makes it heavier, so what's point of inducting an artillery that's praised for its compactness and lightweightness and then ruining those two primary things 🤷‍♂️, instead we could rather induct a dedicated 52-calibre artillery for extended range operations, no?
The guided Excalibur ammo gave Army ideas on longer ranged precision strikes. Hence the barrel upgrades.
 
LoL when ching chongs say 'its design level is still far behind china' , it actually means the opposite !
This is their comparison, a 122mm gun truck with around 20km firing range. Yes they are that retarded to compare their 122mm gun truck to Kalyani's MArG 155x39 and 45 cal high mobility variants.1743237763165.webp
 
i'm not aware of any upgrades going on with M777, the wikipedia entry suggests upgrades on M777 including ER version that's got longer 55-calibre barrel, but it also makes it heavier, so what's point of inducting an artillery that's praised for its compactness and lightweightness and then ruining those two primary things 🤷‍♂️, instead we could rather induct a dedicated 52-calibre artillery for extended range operations, no?
In a future of excessive drone presence and very short counter battery time. I don't see any future for either M777 or Kalyani ULH.

Only use case for lighter howitzers is either in Air assault or air drop ops, there too it comes with few things which will be needed absolutely. A similar near 5 tonnes class prime mover which can be similarly air dropped or carried by helis. And ability of the ULH with own APU to move a bit of distance on its own like Singaporean Pegasus LWH smart design choice,to be quickly come into action, automatically lay the gun towards target and getting out of action as fast as possible. With getting out of action and be ready in towed position being the thing which we would want more. I hope this parameter is kept of utmost importance where you just basically press a button and the whole gun moves on its own and changes from firing mode to towed mode within a minute or one and half time period, for ATAGS and future ALTGS as well.

Kalyani ULH is more of a M777 like design and imo not future proof. They should definitely team up with Drdo as developing lighter weight structures, hybrid recoil systems is already in the future roadmap of Drdo for artillery guns.

I believe such a system can be made which could even turn out to be lighter than m777 as it only uses conventional recoil systems.

Not only that with now possible less than a ton 105mm howitzer and less than 2 tons 122mm howitzer, we should also explore the possibility of longer barrel and longer range systems based on above calibres and look at the possibility of very light air droppable and heli carried self propelled variants based on those.

I am pretty sure that in case of war with China, all these gold plated M777 with Shi* mobility and very little availablity of heli carriage support with us will be easy pickings just like that in Ukraine.

But much ATAGS weight is too much Saar. Musings of our forces where weight should not be a matter. M777 with all its light weight is still very much inferior to ATAGS in every parameter which is useful. And Atags can always be paired with a powerful prime mover to improve mobility in mountains. And I doubt you would be able to take m777 to a place where Atags can't be towed to.

We don't even need to look far for inspiration. Just look at the chinese.
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That also reminds me that we definitely need to launch our own heavy lift heli program asap.
And we do have Kalyani Garuda V2 but definitely feels it can be improved further in design rather than straight away copy of Hawkeye.
 
Singaporean Pegasus LWH
ah yes, this lightweight howitzer with APU was actually competitor of M777 in that tender for 140-some light artillery here, but mated similar fate as Denel's participation for Bhim SPH here = some allegations of corruptions and blacklisted 🤷‍♂️
 

4 Indian Vendors for Virupaksha AESA Radar

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Approved Indian Vendors​

The following companies have been shortlisted based Technical Evaluation for next steps for DcPP selection :

  • Astra Microwave Products Limited
  • Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL)
  • ICOMM Tele Limited
  • Larsen & Toubro Limited (L&T)

Significance of GaN-Based AESA Radar for Su-30MKI​

The Virupaksha AESA radar represents a significant leap in airborne radar technology, providing the Su-30MKI with:

  • Extended range for detecting and tracking aerial and ground targets
  • Enhanced electronic warfare (EW) capabilities against enemy jamming
  • Improved multi-target tracking with greater precision
  • Lower power consumption, reducing aircraft thermal signature
  • Better resolution, aiding in target identification and engagement


View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1905900416878977138
 
M777 was brought in 2016 , this wasnt there then , news says completed trials in 2019

i mean i get it , they are showing middle finger to them now , but doesnt seem to be the case with M777 then

u can just throw any accusation against the army now .


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Don't you think it's a institution's responsibility to work in transparent manner rather than suspicious manner??

Army can wait 35 years for ATGM, 24 years for LCH, and many more but can't wait 3 years for light howitzer?? Top on that his Son also went america at the same time.

UN Generals dual policy has been exposed zillions of time still they prefer to work in same suspicious manner instead of being transparent.

Even General Baskhi has called out there malicious practice towards ATAGs.

UN General's typical emotional card has been expired now.
 
This is their comparison, a 122mm gun truck with around 20km firing range. Yes they are that retarded to compare their 122mm gun truck to Kalyani's MArG 155x39 and 45 cal high mobility variants.View attachment 28933

I got to know this Chinese gun and ancient Indian 105mm IFG

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which we operate in gazillion numbers since apparently have the same range.
 
Don't you think it's a institution's responsibility to work in transparent manner rather than suspicious manner??

Army can wait 35 years for ATGM, 24 years for LCH, and many more but can't wait 3 years for light howitzer?? Top on that his Son also went america at the same time.

UN Generals dual policy has been exposed zillions of time still they prefer to work in same suspicious manner instead of being transparent.

Even General Baskhi has called out there malicious practice towards ATAGs.

UN General's typical emotional card has been expired now.

"but can't wait 3 years for light howitzer"

kalyani's ultra light howitzer completed "internal" trials in 2019 only , M777 has been around for decades .

u dont need to see corruption in every action .


I got to know this Chinese gun and ancient Indian 105mm IFG

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which we operate in gazillion numbers since apparently have the same range.

105 mm was deployed near chusul last 2020 too


View: https://x.com/Mukambo1987/status/1737135995899002906
 

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