Failed Terrorist State of Pakistan: Idiotic Musings

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No need for this made up garbage wumaoson. Xhyena owns dozens of mapping satellites, including CCP owned and private (🤣). Just send some sub-meter level damage assessment pics to your iron brother.

Well, for a info warfare, if you don't provide details, your enemy does.

Maybe after 2 yrs, the 7th May battle will be labelled as another "beqaa valley air battle 1982"

I see TWZ already started such trend:

 
Actually, if from day one, the IAF would leak certain details of air combat, the situation would be different.

I actually tried to find any clue from indian side, but there are only denial,.denial, denial....

Recently, in our military community, there are even paid detailed report about 7th May air battle, somebody said some details on minute accuracy, would leaked not just from PK, but PLAAF/CAC.

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You think planting imaginary battle scenarios on a map is proof? You have advanced satellite systems right? Why haven't they released photos of strikes on indian air bases?

Let me help you , the below picture is the real time photo of jf 17 downing 1000 rafaels .....
That is how ridiculous your "proof" is, aren't you wumaos supposed to be smart?
 

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You think planting imaginary battle scenarios on a map is proof? You have advanced satellite systems right? Why haven't they released photos of strikes on indian air bases?

Let me help you , the below picture is the real time photo of jf 17 downing 1000 rafaels .....
That is how ridiculous your "proof" is, aren't you wumaos supposed to be smart?

Said again, it's not about how your counterpart portrait the report, but ur side had none!
 
1. I won't back to you with same personal attack.

2. I m also against terror attacks and support India strike the terror camps, but the processes shouls be investigation first. But IA just launch the attacks regardless, that's why somebody said Jaishankar suffered total failure, almost no nation supported the strike diplomatically.

This is the real reason why India sent delegations, not like what @azzad claimed like shitting chinese weapon instead.

3. The beauty of this new package of weapons sales to PK, will make India won't launch the similar attack, but do more negotiation before with PK, which will be more balanced of power in subcontinent.
NOne of the modern day systems can intercept a brahmos , their airfields will be toast before your junk fighter can take off. If you think pakistan will deter india due to some new junk equipment, then you are mistaken. Answer some of my questions which I asked you in the last post, if Pakis won why is the indus water treaty in abeyance? If your equipment is good why did we strike mainland pakistan thrice in 4 days? Why haven't you released satelite photos of damage to indian bases? The fact is india bombarded pakistani tier 1cities across the length and breadth of the country with absolute impunity, while your drones and jets could not even do anything to our border cities. That is what you call air dominance.
 
NOne of the modern day systems can intercept a brahmos , their airfields will be toast before your junk fighter can take off. If you think pakistan will deter india due to some new junk equipment, then you are mistaken. Answer some of my questions which I asked you in the last post, if Pakis won why is the indus water treaty in abeyance? If your equipment is good why did we strike mainland pakistan thrice in 4 days? Why haven't you released satelite photos of damage to indian bases? The fact is india bombarded pakistani tier 1cities across the length and breadth of the country with absolute impunity, while your drones and jets could not even do anything to our border cities. That is what you call air dominance.
He's not saying pak won.
He's saying pak successfully aligned international civlian perceptions lot more in its favour despite the actual results on ground being different.
 
Said again, it's not about how your counterpart portrait the report, but ur side had none!
Satelite imagery has been released by Indian officials, videos of bombardment of pakistan is all over social media, we had everything. The fact is india was never strong in info warfare because we refuse to focus on it. The truth my friend is pakistan has no evidence of significant damages to indian military bases and air defence assets.
 
He's not saying pak won.
He's saying pak successfully aligned international civlian perceptions lot more in its favour despite the actual results on ground being different.
Got it, read a few posts and came to a false conclusion. As far as our lack of info warfare is concerned I think it has been discussed enough times.
 
Satelite imagery has been released by Indian officials, videos of bombardment of pakistan is all over social media, we had everything. The fact is india was never strong in info warfare because we refuse to focus on it. The truth my friend is pakistan has no evidence of significant damages to indian military bases and air defence assets.

I personally more concerned about 7th May air battle, it's 100% high tech war, and also the biggest one within last 30 yrs and chinese weapons played crucial roles, but no details about win or loss from Indian side.

For the rest day of conflict, i m OK that PK suffered loss, since during the modern war, it's anyway a headache for any nation to defend drones and supersonic missiles, it's almost overwhelmed by quantities, even as strong as Russia and Nato on air defence. but it had no more higher tech than what happened in Europe.
 
Said again, it's not about how your counterpart portrait the report, but ur side had none!
India literally showed satellite images & images of their damaged defence assets, cities, buildings, craters. Pakistan had none.
They posted one S400 image & that has been proven to be photoshopped.

Pakistan amplified their propaganda with the help from Mullah & 50 cent lobbies. That's their only perk.
Yes, our propaganda mechanism is too weak. Hardly out matches all of them combined.

India is the one which provides proofs for every claim.

What do you mean by proof tho? A fuel dump being passed as Rafale? That's some epic level buffoonery. Pakistanis aren't known for accepting losses.
You thing they didn't have crashes?
They exaggerated beyond logic.

India should've announced the first day that they crashed Pakistani jets just like Pakistanis did out of the thin air.
Things would've settled.
 
What's being done to fix our abysmal info warfare capability
Nothing.
"Gov is not interested " they are focused on diplomatic support and recognization, which is quite useful itself.
But they are not focusing or intrested in managing international perception among civilians.
Though they managed domestic perception decently( most of Indian population is not on twitter, they view traditional news channels on TV.)
 
Well, for a info warfare, if you don't provide details, your enemy does.

Maybe after 2 yrs, the 7th May battle will be labelled as another "beqaa valley air battle 1982"

I see TWZ already started such trend:

LoL. Imaginary high tech air battle where wumaoson porkies claim to have a face saving. Had IAF bombed runways before attacking terrorist camps your imaginary air battle won't have even happened. What's the point of your Temu aircrafts when they can't even fly off the base.
 
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I personally more concerned about 7th May air battle, it's 100% high tech war, and also the biggest one within last 30 yrs and chinese weapons played crucial roles, but no details about win or loss from Indian side.

For the rest day of conflict, i m OK that PK suffered loss, since during the modern war, it's anyway a headache for any nation to defend drones and supersonic missiles, it's almost overwhelmed by quantities, even as strong as Russia and Nato on air defence. but it had no more higher tech than what happened in Europe.
From what I know, from some sources and can say "inside" info.
We lost 2 jets, one in air to air battle, one targeted far away from aerial battle by a Pakistani manpad in himalayas( which was not part of any attack package but doing normal CAP patrol due to hightened tensions).
I also quote "One rafale also sustained minor damage and managed to land and was flightworthy again within 24 hours".

This happened on 7th may, and pakistan got first shot chance, mainly due to "tactical mistake" as referenced by our cds, basically iaf was ordered to limit escalation and target" only terror infra" and not attack pakistan itself, and assumption was pakistan wouldn't attack our jets too which turned out to be false.
Another thing as far as I know, was iaf launched it's air to ground weapons pretty close to pak border.
And we ourself also did managed 3-4 air to air kills against pak jets that night.



Oh yeah, also total no. Of aircraft in air on that night are exaggerated.




Except that in the days that followed we lost few recon drones, like heron.
And sustained few minor damage on 1 airbase from the debris of Intercepted mlrs/missile, apparently a motorcycle of a personal also got damaged by the debris.
While as for the damaged we caused to pak, you can see most of it, but after we " rectified our quote "tactical mistake" in later attacks " no fighter jet was lost" after 7th may.
 
LoL. Imaginary air battle where wumaoson porkies claim to have a face saving. Had IAF bombed runways before attacking terrorist camps your imaginary air battle won't have even happened. What's the point of your Temu aircrafts when they can't even fly off the base.
What they don't have an answer for is why on 10th May when IAF flew at-least 3 strike packages beginning around 2-3am and ending around 4-5 pm to target PAF airfields, they couldn't do shit then?

@rockdog
 
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That's the beauty of the whole thing, Western, Pakistan, China thought Pk won, Inidan thought India won, both are satisfied.

In coming yrs, India still have strategic advantage, and PK has technically edges especially on air by only $10b weapon package paid by mideasters.

This will maintain the balance of power in subcontinent, which is exact China happy to see.
There can be no balance of power between a basket case jihadi terrorist shithole & soon to be 3rd largest economy in the world. You're repeating the same mistake that USA made with regards to China 20 years ago. Your arrogance blinds you.
 
There is no point in entertaining the MSS 10-cent agent. Just ignore him tbh. I have tried to argue with them like a normal human being but they always behave in an arrogant manner. 3-4 of those guys got banned from stratfront yesterday after getting humiliated. They were only spamming some billibilli retarded simulation without being able to even understand basic of air to air combat doctrines. All they can do is spam certain rhetorics.
 
The local MSS agent must be loving all the attention he is getting here.
Keep up with the CCPiya propaganda here, enjoying the e-lynching thoroughly.
 
@Azaad I normally stay out of such thread, since i don't focus on it. You always poked me everywhere in the forum, then I showfeedback here.

I m actually more concern the info warfare after the 7th May battle.



Really? Even US felt uncomfortable.


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It only reflects the common ground of subcontinent level of project executions. CPEC is almost like your bridges and HSR projects.




Actually, i m very pleased that Indian dudes believe the victories you made, both sides are happy and it at least maintain the peace over the region, nobody wants to see two nuke grenade holders to fight each other. The process was shitty, but the outcome is satisfied to the world.

But the other corners over the world, had their own POV, the failure of air fight to India might be controversial, but the narrative war for India is surely lost.

For China, we don't care about PL15e wreckages, we see it's a symbol for shooting jets down, so we made souvenir for sale.


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For other Muslim nations, that's the video in their nite club like Malaysia.

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I think British also realized that, our new old & new package to PK, some how change the situation in the region. I think they knew subcontinent people well.

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Even the Taiwan people, no matter hate/pro/neutral of CCP, keep on believing the result (PK won) and laugh at the result of India, that's quite weird.



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All you need to know is the massive failure of Chinese equipment. They turned out to be the usual Tofu. More BrahMos coming to countries around you. Misinformation warfare lasts only as long as black tofu. Only low IQ Chinese believe the garbage you call propaganda CCP puts out. The rest just laugh at it and move on.
 
1. I won't back to you with same personal attack.

2. I m also against terror attacks and support India strike the terror camps, but the processes shouls be investigation first. But IA just launch the attacks regardless, that's why somebody said Jaishankar suffered total failure, almost no nation supported the strike diplomatically.
How many international investigations you launched when you justified genociding the Uighurs claiming their involvement in terrorist attacks across China?

Leave aside the Uighurs how do you justify the genocide of the Tibetans, some 3 million of them likely more since 1949 till date? What terrorism incidents have they been involved in?

This is the real reason why India sent delegations, not like what @azzad claimed like shitting chinese weapon instead.

Have we sent those delegations to explain our current stand to the world or are we preparing the world for something much more serious & bigger coming up soon, Chang?

See this is the reason I keep saying MSS selection of low IQ Gaokao fail candidates like yourself due to connections in the lower level cadre of the CCP will one day spark of WW-3 if it isn't by your equally atrocious products like Baidu with its ghastly mistranslations.

You've been on DFI & here from 2009 you say & you still haven't understood one percent of how Indian society culture & politics function not to mention the fact the fact that in any other organization you should've been promoted long ago instead of wallowing here for some 16 years at least if not more. Have you ever wondered why ?

Older members here recall extremely stupid gaffes we normally associate with the inbreds to our west committed by the Han , no doubt due to reports filed by either you or the other wumaos here , which Chinese state press duly picked up from the MSS publishing a story on PLA taking over a military air port from Indian Army during the incidents of the summer of 2020 in Ladakh based on what an Indian member @Suryavanshi here made in jest .

Besides this is a fora of at the most a 100 active members irrespective the total membership at any given point in time with some good, some bad, some indifferent, some abysmal & some brilliant.

This isn't in any way a microcosm of India for the country is simply too vast & diverse for even us to comprehend. This also isn't a forum of ex military personnel or retired politicians or academics or think tank staffers or bureaucrats or diplomats.

Yet we see you here some times for 12-14 hours at a stretch sometimes as late as 1 am IST which is 4:30 am Beijing time & you come up with the kind of analysis you just did . There must be a better way of dissemination of propaganda & there is definitely more than one way to do it except you don't know it. That's just a reflection of your calibre & your sensibilities.

Then there's the not so minor issue of your remuneration of 50 cents / post which has seen no change since you started your career in the MSS in 2004-05 .


3. The beauty of this new package of weapons sales to PK, will make India won't launch the similar attack, but do more negotiation before with PK, which will be more balanced of power in subcontinent.
By the time your new weapons package comes Paxtan would've notched up a few score billions of USD in debt including from you in addition to the billions they owe the world & their internal security situation would've further deteriorated.

They don't have ammo for more than a week of high tempo operations like we saw on the night of 7th May & if they did, they lack oil & gas supplies for the same duration & this is their status today.

You think their situation is improving in a few years time ? And if you do why do you think so ? At the most you may send them shiploads of arms. How are you going to replenish their oil & gas requirements to wage war?

Think about these points & send me a DM thanking me when you quote all these points in your daily memo to the MSS if you're rewarded with a 1000 social credit points.
 
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