GTRE GTX 35VS Kaveri

[Ajatshatru]

Man, kaveri trials, i am crying, i want our mods to sponsor tissue papers for all of us who started crying when we read this

Finally we will get to hear that kaveri has achieved its dry run saxsuxfully, waiting for afterburner mating and full trials so that we get to see kaveri flying in tejas

Letsss gooooooooo, lets mf gooooooooo
Kaveri trials, ftb trialsssss, lets gooooooo pandchod paki teri behn ki, ab dekh hamara jazba

Flood the PMO with #FundKaveriEngine emails. Tag PM Modi everywhere. Blow up social media. Make noise they can’t ignore.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Modi sirf politics ki bhasha samajhta hai. See the CAGR of growth in subsidies, in SC/ST ministries, has gone back on privatisation.

This time also course corrected on screwed taxation on middle class because of pressure that was created.

He is a completely political animal in this regard. Everything needs to be shown from showbazi perspective or how important that is politically. In the conflict also he didnt let his virtue signalling go, one SC and Women and another Minority and women were chose to be the face of it all.

So, dont tell him, why this or that is important for India's defense, make the issue politically important and relevent. And trending Kaveri was perfect, this shouldnt be the last either.
Issues should be identified and should be made massy, should be made a trend and you will see this guy respond.

You should know, we dont have a defense minister at command, neither Rajnath is active that he will do something himself, nor Modi will allow him to take credit if something good happens either. A proper defense minister thing is now a decade old thing ( Parrikar Ji), General Rawat was also one who was into reforms and things, this current one General Chouhan looks likes to be in the same role as Nadda as BJP president, na kuch na kuch bolo.

And opposition to maha mc hai. wahan se koi umeed na hai, na agle 100 sal kar sakte hain. We have to create the friction ourselves. We have to make indianisation politically rewarding and the politician will respond. Rawat gaye, theatrisation of Indian military abruptly stopped, and many such reforms are in standstill.

MOD babu bad, drdo bad se na hona hai kuch.

Kaveri engine undergoing trials in Russia, to power Indian combat UAV
Read more At:

https://www.aninews.in/news/national/general-news/kaveri-engine-undergoing-trials-in-russia-to-power-indian-combat-uav20250527194442/

From the ANI article
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Wow so #FundKaveriEngine did reach to top authority
Well done lads

Keep the pressure at war footing—just like the opposition did with Rafale, Bofors, and AugustaWestland. Relentless. Loud. Unignorable.

#FundKaveriEngine

 

[Ajatshatru]

I understand that funding alone won’t make the Kaveri engine a success—it’s about sustained research and development. But why isn’t the government investing in a flying test bed? In a DRDO chief’s interview, he mentioned that as long as importing engines remains cheaper, the government won’t prioritize funding R&D or the domestic production of metal alloys. But this isn’t just about cost—it’s about national security. Even if a homegrown engine is more expensive, the government must back it to ensure long-term self-reliance in defense tech. That’s why creating political pressure for sustained investment in the Kaveri engine is absolutely critical.

 

[Anonymous Bharata]

Alpha Defense notes "all" the infra we'll need to get Kaveri properly going. A Thread.


View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1927012734224269329

Also...


View: https://x.com/SJha1618/status/1927075716786532833

Mind you there are still things like EVD, 50k tonne press, advanced additive manufacturing for unique grades of titanium, etc that we need in "large numbers" and not to mention continuous spending for upkeep of all these facilities especially HATF and FTB, and of course specialized manpower with insane salaries.

Also...

Spoiler: People are getting way out of pocket.🤣

View: https://x.com/wishkey/status/1927032057948934169

Tender came in 2021
Maybe ada used self funds?
Or since ghatak is quite secretive funds were already given we know its under PMO?right?

Sriram says Ghatak wasn't approved yet, he's a reliable source and the way AMCA is going, I believe his words on Ghatak

 

[Anonymous Bharata]

Flood the PMO with #FundKaveriEngine emails. Tag PM Modi everywhere. Blow up social media. Make noise they can’t ignore.

Its the duty of PMO & MoD babus to own the projects and push them forward, instead it's the citizens who are literally begging to push these projects ahead.... Shows how concerned these babus are on national security

 

[Savageking456]

Sriram says Ghatak wasn't approved yet, he's a reliable source and the way AMCA is going, I believe his words on Ghatak

Tender doesn't lie it mentions internal weapons bay,serpentine air intake,composite wing prototype manufacturing,2D nozzle
Has following milestones
1.Structural Design Activities
2. Aero Activities
3. Propulsion System Activities
4. Structural Testing Activities
5. General System Activities (Aircraft Thermal Management, Hydraulic System, and
Dynamic System Including Landing Gear Activities)
6. Electromagnetic Studies
7. Composite Fabrication Activities
8. Structural Assembly Activities
With completion time of 24 months

 

[Azaad]

Tender doesn't lie it mentions internal weapons bay,serpentine air intake,composite wing prototype manufacturing,2D nozzle
Has following milestones
1.Structural Design Activities
2. Aero Activities
3. Propulsion System Activities
4. Structural Testing Activities
5. General System Activities (Aircraft Thermal Management, Hydraulic System, and
Dynamic System Including Landing Gear Activities)
6. Electromagnetic Studies
7. Composite Fabrication Activities
8. Structural Assembly Activities
With completion time of 24 months

Does the tender mention these activities are for the Ghatak? It could be for AMCA too. I say this coz multiple sources are reporting we've yet to sanction the Ghatak program. Here's another one -


View: https://twitter.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1927404575155273795?s=19

 

[Savageking456]

Does the tender mention these activities are for the Ghatak? It could be for AMCA too. I say this coz multiple sources are reporting we've yet to sanction the Ghatak program. Here's another one -


View: https://twitter.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1927404575155273795?s=19

Dude amca does not have 2D nozzle
Also its clearly about UAV
Literally first heading mentions uav

 

[Azaad]

Dude amca does not have 2D nozzle

AMCA Mk-1 will be powered by the F- 414 TF .

Also its clearly about UAV
Literally first heading mentions uav

Perhaps you should link those documents here .

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Does the tender mention these activities are for the Ghatak? It could be for AMCA too. I say this coz multiple sources are reporting we've yet to sanction the Ghatak program. Here's another one -


View: https://twitter.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1927404575155273795?s=19

It is for the Ghatak. No other UAV in development is big enough to house that KDE making nearly 49kn dry thrust. The Warrior Mk2 will use HTFE-25. Tejas will be tested with KDE coupled to a new afterburner when it's ready,

 

[Savageking456]

AMCA Mk-1 will be powered by the F- 414 TF

Sir I'm talking about nozzle not engine

 

[Azaad]

Sir I'm talking about nozzle not engine

What're you talking about ? Can you get a 3D Thrust Vectoring Nozzle to be functional without extensive re engineering to the exhaust of the TF ?

 

[Savageking456]

What're you talking about ? Can you get a 3D Thrust Vectoring Nozzle to be functional without extensive re engineering to the exhaust of the TF ?

1st i am talking about 2D TVN as mentioned in tender
Amca won't have 2D TVN it will have 3D TVN as seen from design
Regarding your question of how can they integrate 2d TVN if engine isn't ready,they could use dry kaveri in prototypes as written in propulsion System Activities as a milestone
While although its not mentioned explicitly that "dry kaveri" will be used in the milestone(for obvious reason)

 

[Azaad]

1st i am talking about 2D TVN as mentioned in tender
Amca won't have 2D TVN it will have 3D TVN as seen from design

That's what I'm trying to explain to you that the AMCA Mk-1 is to be equipped with the F-414 TF which hasn't been modified for a 3D TVC Nozzle.

Eventually it'd have 3D TVC Nozzles but that's when it'd be retrofitted with the 5th Gen 120 KN TF. That's a long way off.

In the meanwhile the AMCA Mk-1 is expected to be certified FOC with the F-414 by 2035 .

Regarding your question of how can they integrate 2d TVN if engine isn't ready,they could use dry kaveri in prototypes

Ghatak is supposed to have 2D Elliptical Nozzles.

Anyway this endless speculation isn't something I'm inclined to at this hour of the night. The project itself is somewhat of a Black Project so it could well have received the CCS sanction minus the attendant publicity .

Just that better informed observers than us with better sources of information on X aren't reporting it , which I find surprising . Same goes for other defence fora like ours as well. They too aren't reporting any such sanction .

I'd leave it at that.

 

[Savageking456]

That's what I'm trying to explain to you that the AMCA Mk-1 is to be equipped with the F-414 TF which hasn't been modified for a 3D TVC Nozzle.

Eventually it'd have 3D TVC Nozzles but that's when it'd be retrofitted with the 5th Gen 120 KN TF. That's a long way off.

In the meanwhile the AMCA Mk-1 is expected to be certified FOC with the F-414 by 2035 .

That's unrelated
Its for uav anyways
Neither the tender mentions anything about canopy

Just that better informed observers than us with better sources of information on X aren't reporting it , which I find surprising . Same goes for other defence fora like ours as well. They too aren't reporting any such sanction

Afaik ADA is very tight lipped on this project hence few even if know are not sharing it for obvious reason,you may hear news about swift but never about ghatak
And one guy i know who is quite credible did say to me one airframe has arrived years back(yea i know it seems like trust me vro)

 

[crazywithmath]

Modi sirf politics ki bhasha samajhta hai. See the CAGR of growth in subsidies,

CAGR growth of subsidies is in negative - what on earth are you talking about?

I don't know why this false claim has so much traction among ya'll.

The so-called middle class folks of India (who are top 5-7%ilers in reality, btw) are professional whiners. The true middle class does not pay 'income taxes' in India. Also, they cut taxes cuz the economy had to be revived by stimulating demand - not because of some social media rr.

This govt just does not like to spend, idk why it is so difficult to grasp.

 

[Anonymous Bharata]

It is for the Ghatak. No other UAV in development is big enough to house that KDE making nearly 49kn dry thrust. The Warrior Mk2 will use HTFE-25. Tejas will be tested with KDE coupled to a new afterburner when it's ready,

There is Warrior Mk-2? Even if exists, HTFE-25 is not moving ahead, so it's kinda de@d

 

[samsaptaka]

That's what I'm trying to explain to you that the AMCA Mk-1 is to be equipped with the F-414 TF which hasn't been modified for a 3D TVC Nozzle.

Eventually it'd have 3D TVC Nozzles but that's when it'd be retrofitted with the 5th Gen 120 KN TF. That's a long way off.

Is TVC a difficult technology to master, if so it might cause more delays to AMCA. I hope the IAF and HAL babooz work out some agreement wherein IOC without TVC is possible. Or is TVC a must have feature for a 5th gen. Knowledgeable membraan pls comment

 

[randombully]

Is TVC a difficult technology to master, if so it might cause more delays to AMCA. I hope the IAF and HAL babooz work out some agreement wherein IOC without TVC is possible. Or is TVC a must have feature for a 5th gen. Knowledgeable membraan pls comment

Not really, compared to developing a engine, tvc is not that hard.
We already have basic tvc nozzel tech and lot of experience , due to manufacturing of al31 of su30mki by HAL, which uses 3d tvc nozzel

 

[Tumba]

Man, kaveri trials, i am crying, i want our mods to sponsor tissue papers for all of us who started crying when we read this

Finally we will get to hear that kaveri has achieved its dry run saxsuxfully, waiting for afterburner mating and full trials so that we get to see kaveri flying in tejas

Letsss gooooooooo, lets mf gooooooooo
Kaveri trials, ftb trialsssss, lets gooooooo pandchod paki teri behn ki, ab dekh hamara jazba

Kaveri with dry thrust trials, lets see when wet trials for Kaveri can be done then we have a fighter capable jet engine