HTSE-1200 Engine

A 2016 Article

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The latest milestone in aircraft engine development that Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd unveiled, counted with its other helicopter engines project, may be two new tiny steps which, however, may be no match for the giant gap that exists for indigenous aero engines, experts in the field say.

The projects that the premier military aircraft maker has embarked on will be respectively for small jets and trainer planes; and light helicopter projects. Engine development technology being extremely complex as it is, India is still a far cry from propelling the bigger fighter planes with its own engine. It could be a new quest 25 years after the DRDO’s Kaveri engine for Indian light fighters failed to rev up.

HAL on December 14 trial-ran the HTFE-25 - the engine that can potentially power its basic trainer plane and perhaps business jets - in the presence of the Defence Minister. Around October this year, it initiated the design of the second one, HTSE-1200, meant for 3-tonne to 6.5-tonne helicopters.

They stand for Hindustan Turbo Fan Engine and Hindustan Turbo Shaft Engine.

The two projects are expected to reach fruition by around 2020-21 and would meet HAL’s upcoming projects - the HTT-40 trainer; the Light Combat Helicopter, the Light Utility Helicopter and the future ALHs (Advanced Light Helicopters), a senior official said. The ALH is now powered by the Shakti engine of HAL and its French partner Turbomeca.

Calling the engine’s debut run a speedy achievement, Ashok Baweja, who was HAL's Chairman during 2004-09 is and now CEO of QuEST Global Defence, said, “Developing an engine is almost as challenging as making an aircraft fly. This is the beginning. The real challenge will be in extensively running [HTFE-25], quickly getting it qualified and certified, may be within two years. And once certified, it has immense [market] potential.”

Government officials have often said various agencies would need 4,000-6,000 helicopter engines by the end of this decade. . Considering the huge requirement, Mr. Baweja said the larger HTSE-1200 being pursued for light helicopters would also be a potent product; “We have never done this 1200-kW-class engine before.”

Comparing the HTFE-25 progress to conquering a hillock before a mountain, K. Tamilmani, DRDO's Director-General for Aeronautical R&D, said it was a desirable baby step as “we are nowhere in engines globally”.

An engine for the fifth generation concept, the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft, for example, he said, could be at least a decade away and perhaps made in a partnership.

Indigenous engine technologies, Dr. Tamilmani remarked, are essential; India, in spite of its aircraft manufacturing maturity, cannot claim self-reliance in aeronautics without its own engine.

Future focus should be on aiming for multiple engines and pooling of diverse capabilities.

Mr. Baweja also said the old and now stalled DRDO effort, the Kaveri GTX-35VS engine, which did not make it as intended into the LCA fighter, should also be somehow completed.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-pape...r-hals-new-aircraft-engine/article8009277.ece
 
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2019 Update
From HAL Annual Report
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2020 Update
From HAL Annual Report
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Pressure/temperature distribution simulations of the first stage rotor of the HTSE-1200
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2021 Update

View: https://x.com/DRDO_India/status/1386633037371281411
5 sets (300 pieces) of Single Crystal Blades for HTSE 1200 delivered
A New image of HTSE 1200 on a test stand from 2021
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2021 Update
From HAL Annual Report
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From Aero India 2021

View: https://x.com/Amitraaz/status/1359879285796835329


View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1439191444510560260

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1439203795754315781
Don't Know What happened to this, Somebody Ask Alpha Defence About It.


2022 Update
From HAL Annual Report
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2023 Update
Video of HTSE-1200 ground test run.

View: https://x.com/DefenceDecode/status/1631616574854688768

A New design and test facility at the HAL Aero Engine Research and Development Centre (AERDC) was inaugurated in Bengaluru on December 29,
The facility houses special machines, advanced setups leveraging computational tools and in-house fabrication facility along with two test beds for testing HTFE-25 and one test bed each for HTSE-1200 and upcoming JV engine for IMRH.


2024 Update
From a HAL promotional Material
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The two projects are expected to reach fruition by around 2020-21 and would meet HAL’s upcoming projects - the HTT-40 trainer; the Light Combat Helicopter, the Light Utility Helicopter and the future ALHs (Advanced Light Helicopters), a senior official said.
Right...its 2024 now, has this vapour ware made it into IJT, or any jet or drone ? Has this 'senior officer' been fired for his statement? Where is the accountability? Whole of dpsu's are running effing MNREGA schemes and fooling the public. Houthiyas
 
has this vapour ware made it into IJT, or any jet or drone ?
Was this "Vaporware" even funded for it to make into any platform.
Go ask the government to fund this project first, then make these sneering remarks

Has this 'senior officer' been fired for his statement?
Why should he be, it's not his fault govt. never bothered to fund the project because they were content with the current arrangement of screwdrivering French engines


Whole of dpsu's are running effing MNREGA schemes and fooling the public. Houthiyas
Dude you are the houthiya, who is commenting without knowing the facts, yes DPSU's have a lot of problem but that does not mean you get to unjustly criticize them for things beyond their control.
 
Was this "Vaporware" even funded for it to make into any platform.
Go ask the government to fund this project first, then make these sneering remarks


Why should he be, it's not his fault govt. never bothered to fund the project because they were content with the current arrangement of screwdrivering French engines



Dude you are the houthiya, who is commenting without knowing the facts, yes DPSU's have a lot of problem but that does not mean you get to unjustly criticize them for things beyond their control.
Yes. Its HAL internal project. I mean they are spending on R&D unlike Chai-Samosa. Its not like iam giving leeway but Gobermint didn't even ask about any Engine. They don't have any roadmap or so. Kadi Ninda & History Mugups may not even know difference between Helicopter Engine and Jet Engine.
 
Was this "Vaporware" even funded for it to make into any platform.
Go ask the government to fund this project first, then make these sneering remarks


Why should he be, it's not his fault govt. never bothered to fund the project because they were content with the current arrangement of screwdrivering French engines



Dude you are the houthiya, who is commenting without knowing the facts, yes DPSU's have a lot of problem but that does not mean you get to unjustly criticize them for things beyond their control.
Dude, if the senior officer knows that GoI is not funding the project then why should he claim unrealistic dates ? Instead shouldn't he air his grievance that GoI is not sufficiently funding the project and it will be delayed and I cannot comment of date of delivery? Is that so hard to tell the truth ? Hence I say they're houthiyas and stand by it. And no, it doesn't make me a houthiya.
 
if the senior officer knows that GoI is not funding the project then why should he claim unrealistic dates
Because that's his job a representative standing on the booth in a expo, and this much is a standard practice in pretty much the entire corporate world, even more so in Defence sector.

Instead shouldn't he air his grievance that GoI is not sufficiently funding the project and it will be delayed and I cannot comment of date of delivery?
You want an employee to criticise his exchequer out in the public that they are not being funded 🤣🤣
Try saying something similar about your boss in public and watch how your job slip away from your hands, only then will you understand how absolutely idiotic are you sounding right now.

Is that so hard to tell the truth
Yes it is that hard to tell the truth, because if he acted as you are saying, his company's share price will drop by multiple points and he would be left go of or at the very least demoted for causing such a ruckus

Hence I say they're houthiyas and stand by it. And no, it doesn't make me a houthiya.
With the way you are reacting I am pretty sure you are just an unemployed kid who has never worked a day in corporate.
Otherwise you would not have been implying such idiotic things like air his grivenece about his exchequer in "public"
This in my book is something only a houthiya can do.
 
With the way you are reacting I am pretty sure you are just an unemployed kid who has never worked a day in corporate.
Right.....Mr. Pundit, you can go back to whatever kindergarten you came from. Adding you to ignore list... Pretty rich to make assumptions about someone's age just by reading his post. Just shows whose the immature kid.

And all the reasons you gave is precisely why PSU's reputation is in the dust. Somehow you justifying their vapourware timelines by talking about corporate culture, share price etc....
 

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