India Canada Relations

hurrians said:

"Khalistani separatists don't represent Sikh community in Canada: Justin Trudeau"​


And

“There are many supporters of the (Prime Minister Narendra) Modi Government is Canada but they do not represent all Hindu Canadians as a whole.”
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Equal -equal after all. Supporting a popular, respected, thrice democratically elected government, is equivalent to supporting a bunch of terrorist scum, who barely have any support in India itself. Right.
 
Cheepek said:
Canada wants to make it a Sikh vs Hindus issue, why are Sikhs in Canada not coming forward to denounce Khalistanis?
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Because the sikh scenario in Canada is this :
Every single gurdawara = run by khalistanis. If you are khalistani sikh, you get to go raaah raaah ree ree with them. If you are not khalistani sikh, you get to stfu, make up some excuse and go home after bhajan and bhojan.
 
In an unrelated or related news, R&AW could intercept and alert Sri Lankan authorities on a plan to target Israelis in SL, while the 5 👀 were too busy inside Pannu's ass that they couldn't prevent a well-planned targeted attack on Jews in Amsterdam


www.timesofisrael.com

‘They came in masses,’ ‘attacked us all’: Maccabi Tel Aviv fans describe Amsterdam horrors

Eyewitnesses and victims say organized gangs targeted all Israelis, had clubs, knives; describe local police not responding and taxi drivers taking part in widespread assault
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hurrians said:

"Khalistani separatists don't represent Sikh community in Canada: Justin Trudeau"​


And

“There are many supporters of the (Prime Minister Narendra) Modi Government is Canada but they do not represent all Hindu Canadians as a whole.”
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Trudeau can't be wrong but progress thereof.
 
By the way, most of the news re: India-Canada/Hindu-Sikh that i see here are CBC and the Sun group papers.
Sun groups ( Vancouver Sun, Toronto Sun, Calgary Herald, etc) are ALL libbu leftie media and CBC is literally a more govt. controlled version of doordarshan. it WILL peddle watever the govt of canada is peddling.

However, there is another reputed group, the conservative ones ( toronto star is one of those papers) where Globe & mail is basically the more sane conservative version of fox news and G&M is to Pierre Polievre what Fox News is to Trump.
Now, obviously G&M isnt gonna reflect same language and tone as Swarajya or something RW indian on the issue and they wont throw the khalistanis under the bus completely, but notice the much much more balanced reporting and subtle change of tone in its reporting :
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Fears of more clashes between Sikhs and Hindus in Brampton, Ont., as Canada-India rift spills over into suburbs​

Greg Mercer, Jill Mahoney and Colin Freeze
Brampton, ont., mississauga, ont. and toronto
Published Yesterday
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Members of the Sikh community patrol the Sri Guru Singh Sabha Malton Gurdwara in Mississauga, Ont., with bats, clubs, sticks, swords and other defence weapons after the community was subject to a slew of violence from pro-India activists on Nov. 5.Christopher Katsarov/The Globe and Mail
79


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Young men clutching swords, baseball bats and pieces of lumber are standing guard outside a Sikh gurdwara near Toronto’s Pearson Airport, their eyes scanning the perimeter for signs of trouble in the dark.

Prayers broadcasting from inside the temple mix with Punjabi music blaring from a pick-up truck parked nearby. The mood has been tense ever since the sun set.

“We have to be ready,” said Daljit Singh Sekhon, president of the Sri Guru Singh Sabha Malton gurdwara in Mississauga, Ont., glancing at a bank of security cameras Tuesday.

Story continues below advertisement


Anxious scenes like this unfolded this week at temples in Brampton and nearby Mississauga as the growing rift between Canada and India spilled over into Canadian suburbs. Hindus and Sikhs, divided over a decades-long fight to carve out a sovereign nation in a northwest region of India, clashed in the streets, and some threatened a wave of sectarian violence rarely seen in this country.

The conflicts come just weeks after RCMP announced they had evidence of Indian officials’ involvement in homicides, extortion and other violent crimes on Canadian soil, which led to Canada expelling six Indian diplomats, and India expelling six Canadian diplomats in retaliation. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government has repeatedly accused Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s representatives of engaging in covert campaigns to repress and kill Sikh activists living in Canada, including gunning down Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Surrey, B.C., last year.

It all boiled over this week in multiple Canadian communities, where out-of-control demonstrations by nationalist Hindus and Sikhs led to condemnation from politicians and forced municipal leaders to contemplate new bylaws that would ban protests at places of worship. In Surrey, three men were also arrested after violence broke out when hundreds of demonstrators showed up at a Hindu temple.

Sikh and Hindus live side-by-side in Brampton, an Ontario city of about 750,000 where one-quarter of the population is Sikh and one in five residents are Hindu. While tension over the goal to carve out a Sikh homeland in India called Khalistan has been around for a long time, this sort of violence between the two groups in Canada is uncommon.



And it has geopolitical undertones that highlight Canada’s increasingly fraught relationship with India.



“Hindus have had enough,” said Arvind Mishra, a 35-year-old IT consultant in Brampton who came to Canada from India about four years ago. “They’re frustrated. They’re agitated and they’re very, very angry. We feel marginalized.”



Mr. Mishra, who said he was inside Brampton’s Hindu Sabha temple with his wife and nine-month-old daughter last Sunday when the fighting began outside with poles and fists, said Sikh demonstrators crossed a line by protesting at a religious site. He blames Ottawa for allowing pro-Khalistan rhetoric, which many Hindus see as support for terrorism, to go unchecked. With anger over the anti-Indian sentiment in the Khalistan movement building for years, it should be no surprise Hindus are pushing back, he said.



The Sikhs say their fight is not with Hindus, but with Indian government meddling in Canada. The Khalistani protesters claimed the event at the Hindu temple Sunday – where Indian consular staff were helping Indian immigrants apply for government pensions – was part of surveillance efforts to keep tabs on pro-Khalistan Sikhs. About 80 per cent of the 1,000 people inside the building at the time were Sikh, according to temple president Madhusudan Lama.



Story continues below advertisement

This is not a religious battle. This is not a battle between Sikhs and Hindus,” said Inderjeet Singh Gosal, an organizer of Sunday’s demonstration outside the Hindu Sabha temple. “This wasn’t an attempt to attack any place of worship. The reason we were there to protest was strictly against the Indian government officials.”



Later that night, a mob of about 300 pro-India counter-protesters – some masked and armed with bats – converged on the nearby Malton gurdwara, known for its strong ties to the pro-Khalistan movement. The following night, riot police tried to contain a larger crowd of protesters, some draped in Indian flags, who took over the street in front of Hindu Sabha temple and were seen kicking vehicles. Three men were arrested.



Relations between Canada and India have been strained since the killing of Mr. Nijjar, a leader in the pro-Khalistan movement, in June, 2023. Three months later, Mr. Trudeau stood in Parliament and alleged that agents of the India government were involved in the shooting.



Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre blamed Mr. Trudeau for sowing the divisions that led to the violent clashes in Brampton. Mr. Modi criticized what he called “cowardly attempts to intimidate our diplomats” in the deepening diplomatic row. Liberal MP Chandra Arya, who represents an Ottawa riding, said the protests show just how emboldened the Sikh sovereignty movement has become.

Many Hindus blame Sikh extremists, responsible for the Air India bombing that killed 329 people in 1985, for fuelling unrest back in India. Sikhs activists, meanwhile, have never forgotten a violent crackdown on Sikhs in India in the 1980s, and have recently drawn New Delhi’s ire by holding a referendum among Indian immigrants on Khalistan independence.



This week, that tension erupted in Brampton.



“Anytime you have anything where there’s a threat or intimidation relating to a place of worship, that kind of hits a primal chord,” said Dan Stanton, who was an intelligence officer in the Canadian Security Intelligence Service for 32 years.



Canada needs to be wary of growing radicalization on either side of the Khalistan issue, he said. Indian consular officials have become a “lightning rod from the Sikh community’s perspective,” he added, part of the reason the Peel Regional Police chief asked the Indian consulate to consider holding pension events at non-religious sites.



“Indian representation in Canada has been, of course, allegedly involved in murders and extraditions killings and arsons and that. So it’s quite a tinderbox,” Mr. Stanton said. “And then you just, when you have an incident at outside a religious institution … it’s almost like throwing a match.



Religious leaders on both sides have condemned the violence and say emotions are being inflamed by a handful of people. Among them, they say, is Ron Benarjee, a self-described “hardcore Hindu nationalist” known for inflammatory statements against Muslims. He appeared in a video recorded outside the Hindu temple Sunday night, calling on protesters to storm Sikh temples.



Mr. Benarjee, 57, was denounced by Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown for trying to encourage violence and was charged with promoting hate speech by Peel Regional Police. He could not be reached for comment.



Arrest warrants have also been issued for two other men, a 24-year-old from Kitchener and a 22-year-old, for their roles in the violence.



Meanwhile, Rajinder Parsad, a Hindu priest who was caught on camera telling the crowd “if anyone opposes us, we will kill them,” was suspended from the Hindu Sabha temple, according to Mr. Lama. An off-duty Peel Regional Police officer who participated in the pro-Khalistan protest was also suspended.



Back at the Malton Gurdwara, one of the men standing guard said he never thought he would feel the need to protect his place of worship in Canada.

“I thought we’d left all that behind,” said Prince Kler, a dispatcher at a trucking company. “But apparently not.”


Link(paywall): https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...pton-boil-over-with-violent-protests-clashes/
 
GaudaNaresh said:
By the way, most of the news re: India-Canada/Hindu-Sikh that i see here are CBC and the Sun group papers.
Sun groups ( Vancouver Sun, Toronto Sun, Calgary Herald, etc) are ALL libbu leftie media and CBC is literally a more govt. controlled version of doordarshan. it WILL peddle watever the govt of canada is peddling.

However, there is another reputed group, the conservative ones ( toronto star is one of those papers) where Globe & mail is basically the more sane conservative version of fox news and G&M is to Pierre Polievre what Fox News is to Trump.
Now, obviously G&M isnt gonna reflect same language and tone as Swarajya or something RW indian on the issue and they wont throw the khalistanis under the bus completely, but notice the much much more balanced reporting and subtle change of tone in its reporting :
=====================================================================

Fears of more clashes between Sikhs and Hindus in Brampton, Ont., as Canada-India rift spills over into suburbs​

Greg Mercer, Jill Mahoney and Colin Freeze
Brampton, ont., mississauga, ont. and toronto
Published Yesterday
Open this photo in gallery:

Members of the Sikh community patrol the Sri Guru Singh Sabha Malton Gurdwara in Mississauga, Ont., with bats, clubs, sticks, swords and other defence weapons after the community was subject to a slew of violence from pro-India activists on Nov. 5.Christopher Katsarov/The Globe and Mail
79


Listen to this article

Young men clutching swords, baseball bats and pieces of lumber are standing guard outside a Sikh gurdwara near Toronto’s Pearson Airport, their eyes scanning the perimeter for signs of trouble in the dark.

Prayers broadcasting from inside the temple mix with Punjabi music blaring from a pick-up truck parked nearby. The mood has been tense ever since the sun set.

“We have to be ready,” said Daljit Singh Sekhon, president of the Sri Guru Singh Sabha Malton gurdwara in Mississauga, Ont., glancing at a bank of security cameras Tuesday.

Story continues below advertisement


Anxious scenes like this unfolded this week at temples in Brampton and nearby Mississauga as the growing rift between Canada and India spilled over into Canadian suburbs. Hindus and Sikhs, divided over a decades-long fight to carve out a sovereign nation in a northwest region of India, clashed in the streets, and some threatened a wave of sectarian violence rarely seen in this country.

The conflicts come just weeks after RCMP announced they had evidence of Indian officials’ involvement in homicides, extortion and other violent crimes on Canadian soil, which led to Canada expelling six Indian diplomats, and India expelling six Canadian diplomats in retaliation. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government has repeatedly accused Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s representatives of engaging in covert campaigns to repress and kill Sikh activists living in Canada, including gunning down Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Surrey, B.C., last year.

It all boiled over this week in multiple Canadian communities, where out-of-control demonstrations by nationalist Hindus and Sikhs led to condemnation from politicians and forced municipal leaders to contemplate new bylaws that would ban protests at places of worship. In Surrey, three men were also arrested after violence broke out when hundreds of demonstrators showed up at a Hindu temple.

Sikh and Hindus live side-by-side in Brampton, an Ontario city of about 750,000 where one-quarter of the population is Sikh and one in five residents are Hindu. While tension over the goal to carve out a Sikh homeland in India called Khalistan has been around for a long time, this sort of violence between the two groups in Canada is uncommon.



And it has geopolitical undertones that highlight Canada’s increasingly fraught relationship with India.



“Hindus have had enough,” said Arvind Mishra, a 35-year-old IT consultant in Brampton who came to Canada from India about four years ago. “They’re frustrated. They’re agitated and they’re very, very angry. We feel marginalized.”



Mr. Mishra, who said he was inside Brampton’s Hindu Sabha temple with his wife and nine-month-old daughter last Sunday when the fighting began outside with poles and fists, said Sikh demonstrators crossed a line by protesting at a religious site. He blames Ottawa for allowing pro-Khalistan rhetoric, which many Hindus see as support for terrorism, to go unchecked. With anger over the anti-Indian sentiment in the Khalistan movement building for years, it should be no surprise Hindus are pushing back, he said.



The Sikhs say their fight is not with Hindus, but with Indian government meddling in Canada. The Khalistani protesters claimed the event at the Hindu temple Sunday – where Indian consular staff were helping Indian immigrants apply for government pensions – was part of surveillance efforts to keep tabs on pro-Khalistan Sikhs. About 80 per cent of the 1,000 people inside the building at the time were Sikh, according to temple president Madhusudan Lama.



Story continues below advertisement

This is not a religious battle. This is not a battle between Sikhs and Hindus,” said Inderjeet Singh Gosal, an organizer of Sunday’s demonstration outside the Hindu Sabha temple. “This wasn’t an attempt to attack any place of worship. The reason we were there to protest was strictly against the Indian government officials.”



Later that night, a mob of about 300 pro-India counter-protesters – some masked and armed with bats – converged on the nearby Malton gurdwara, known for its strong ties to the pro-Khalistan movement. The following night, riot police tried to contain a larger crowd of protesters, some draped in Indian flags, who took over the street in front of Hindu Sabha temple and were seen kicking vehicles. Three men were arrested.



Relations between Canada and India have been strained since the killing of Mr. Nijjar, a leader in the pro-Khalistan movement, in June, 2023. Three months later, Mr. Trudeau stood in Parliament and alleged that agents of the India government were involved in the shooting.



Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre blamed Mr. Trudeau for sowing the divisions that led to the violent clashes in Brampton. Mr. Modi criticized what he called “cowardly attempts to intimidate our diplomats” in the deepening diplomatic row. Liberal MP Chandra Arya, who represents an Ottawa riding, said the protests show just how emboldened the Sikh sovereignty movement has become.

Many Hindus blame Sikh extremists, responsible for the Air India bombing that killed 329 people in 1985, for fuelling unrest back in India. Sikhs activists, meanwhile, have never forgotten a violent crackdown on Sikhs in India in the 1980s, and have recently drawn New Delhi’s ire by holding a referendum among Indian immigrants on Khalistan independence.



This week, that tension erupted in Brampton.



“Anytime you have anything where there’s a threat or intimidation relating to a place of worship, that kind of hits a primal chord,” said Dan Stanton, who was an intelligence officer in the Canadian Security Intelligence Service for 32 years.



Canada needs to be wary of growing radicalization on either side of the Khalistan issue, he said. Indian consular officials have become a “lightning rod from the Sikh community’s perspective,” he added, part of the reason the Peel Regional Police chief asked the Indian consulate to consider holding pension events at non-religious sites.



“Indian representation in Canada has been, of course, allegedly involved in murders and extraditions killings and arsons and that. So it’s quite a tinderbox,” Mr. Stanton said. “And then you just, when you have an incident at outside a religious institution … it’s almost like throwing a match.



Religious leaders on both sides have condemned the violence and say emotions are being inflamed by a handful of people. Among them, they say, is Ron Benarjee, a self-described “hardcore Hindu nationalist” known for inflammatory statements against Muslims. He appeared in a video recorded outside the Hindu temple Sunday night, calling on protesters to storm Sikh temples.



Mr. Benarjee, 57, was denounced by Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown for trying to encourage violence and was charged with promoting hate speech by Peel Regional Police. He could not be reached for comment.



Arrest warrants have also been issued for two other men, a 24-year-old from Kitchener and a 22-year-old, for their roles in the violence.



Meanwhile, Rajinder Parsad, a Hindu priest who was caught on camera telling the crowd “if anyone opposes us, we will kill them,” was suspended from the Hindu Sabha temple, according to Mr. Lama. An off-duty Peel Regional Police officer who participated in the pro-Khalistan protest was also suspended.



Back at the Malton Gurdwara, one of the men standing guard said he never thought he would feel the need to protect his place of worship in Canada.

“I thought we’d left all that behind,” said Prince Kler, a dispatcher at a trucking company. “But apparently not.”


Link(paywall): https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...pton-boil-over-with-violent-protests-clashes/
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Kuch bhi, whole article has the same "poor seekhs vs ebul Hindoo Nashnulists" like the rest of the gora media coverage.

Khalistan and the current drama in Kaneda is a deep state backed drama, don't try to see any Left-Right-Left or Librandu-Cuckservative in this, sabka (((malik))) ek hi hai
 
shade2 said:
Kuch bhi, whole article has the same "poor seekhs vs ebul Hindoo Nashnulists" like the rest of the gora media coverage.

Khalistan and the current drama in Kaneda is a deep state backed drama, don't try to see any Left-Right-Left or Librandu-Cuckservative in this, sabka (((malik))) ek hi hai
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This is far more balanced than CBC, they will obviously blame us more, but there is hindu POV being cited here and they *ARE* mentioning it (though hiding it with wordplay a bit) that whole thing started when sikhs showed up to our temple, tried to intimidate and how hindus got really angry that it happened at a temple.
Until govt of Canada changes, G&M isnt gonna just say ' innocent hindu civvies' they are gonna couch it as ' modi supporter hindus' instead.
G&M isnt gonna cover up the entire factuality of the events, they will tone it down a bit, but you will get more or less a much more factual story from them than anywhere else in Canada. Eg:

"

“Hindus have had enough,” said Arvind Mishra, a 35-year-old IT consultant in Brampton who came to Canada from India about four years ago. “They’re frustrated. They’re agitated and they’re very, very angry. We feel marginalized.”



Mr. Mishra, who said he was inside Brampton’s Hindu Sabha temple with his wife and nine-month-old daughter last Sunday when the fighting began outside with poles and fists, said Sikh demonstrators crossed a line by protesting at a religious site. He blames Ottawa for allowing pro-Khalistan rhetoric, which many Hindus see as support for terrorism, to go unchecked. With anger over the anti-Indian sentiment in the Khalistan movement building for years, it should be no surprise Hindus are pushing back, he said."



You are not gonna get ' hindu perspective' from the other media houses in Canada.

The deepstate drama does boil over to left-right stuff in North America.
There is no such thing as deepstate in Canada - we dont even have a solid constitution, nevermind deepstate. Deepstate here is deepstate USA. Who are ALL aligned with the left because basically trump said again he is gonna destroy the deep state. Which means, right wing media = less/marginal deep state influence as long as trump is there.

I am not trying to say ' look real report finally from canada', i am trying to say, look at the difference in tone/reporting between the govt & leftie media (who are also much more pro khalistani because jaggu bhai is leader of the most leftist party in Canada) and the right leaning media.

This will show you one thing - Canada is a poodle. Really really big at barking and jittery retard. But once you put the tiniest bit of effort (maskaa + bribery, ala Cheen), the poodle becomes your bestie in 5 seconds flat.
(Contrast that to a golden retriver - it doesnt give a shit about you for an entire hour and maybe once it starts to trust u it will lay its head on your lap and you just get 1-2 chance of not being a dick, else it will growl and fuck off).

Canada is VERY tamable by India is what this shows. Some well placed maskaa when PP wins and help him with his biggest political project ( libbu party infilitrated by eebeel chicoms) and Canada will become your poodle.
 
GaudaNaresh said:
This is far more balanced than CBC, they will obviously blame us more, but there is hindu POV being cited here and they *ARE* mentioning it (though hiding it with wordplay a bit) that whole thing started when sikhs showed up to our temple, tried to intimidate and how hindus got really angry that it happened at a temple.
Until govt of Canada changes, G&M isnt gonna just say ' innocent hindu civvies' they are gonna couch it as ' modi supporter hindus' instead.
G&M isnt gonna cover up the entire factuality of the events, they will tone it down a bit, but you will get more or less a much more factual story from them than anywhere else in Canada. Eg:

"

“Hindus have had enough,” said Arvind Mishra, a 35-year-old IT consultant in Brampton who came to Canada from India about four years ago. “They’re frustrated. They’re agitated and they’re very, very angry. We feel marginalized.”



Mr. Mishra, who said he was inside Brampton’s Hindu Sabha temple with his wife and nine-month-old daughter last Sunday when the fighting began outside with poles and fists, said Sikh demonstrators crossed a line by protesting at a religious site. He blames Ottawa for allowing pro-Khalistan rhetoric, which many Hindus see as support for terrorism, to go unchecked. With anger over the anti-Indian sentiment in the Khalistan movement building for years, it should be no surprise Hindus are pushing back, he said."



You are not gonna get ' hindu perspective' from the other media houses in Canada.

The deepstate drama does boil over to left-right stuff in North America.
There is no such thing as deepstate in Canada - we dont even have a solid constitution, nevermind deepstate. Deepstate here is deepstate USA. Who are ALL aligned with the left because basically trump said again he is gonna destroy the deep state. Which means, right wing media = less/marginal deep state influence as long as trump is there.

I am not trying to say ' look real report finally from canada', i am trying to say, look at the difference in tone/reporting between the govt & leftie media (who are also much more pro khalistani because jaggu bhai is leader of the most leftist party in Canada) and the right leaning media.

This will show you one thing - Canada is a poodle. Really really big at barking and jittery retard. But once you put the tiniest bit of effort (maskaa + bribery, ala Cheen), the poodle becomes your bestie in 5 seconds flat.
(Contrast that to a golden retriver - it doesnt give a shit about you for an entire hour and maybe once it starts to trust u it will lay its head on your lap and you just get 1-2 chance of not being a dick, else it will growl and fuck off).

Canada is VERY tamable by India is what this shows. Some well placed maskaa when PP wins and help him with his biggest political project ( libbu party infilitrated by eebeel chicoms) and Canada will become your poodle.
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Cheen is allowed to pet the poodle but the poodle's master still remains US deep state.
I doubt we will be afforded the privelege of petting.

Also unlike say Australia and coal, mineral imports we don't even have a chance of some heavy trade leverage on Canucks, do we?

Like we are bipartisan bum-chums with Aussie because of coal and minerals importation, only the local MI6 branch there barks at us, the Govts remain politically correct and friendly
 
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