Indian Air Force: News & Discussions (15 Viewers)

[redpanda]

Now think of what it's going to be for us once the AMCA Mk-1 becomes production ready given the mentality of our tenth pass Dhotis & BA ( Hons ) in Eng Literature Suits .

Worst case scenario those idiots would say it's too expensive and might even try to kill it...in the name of fiscal prudence.

But what really might happen is more delays in the name of financial feasibility & fiscal prudence. Let's hope whoever gets the AMCA deal has enough lobbying power to convince those Dhotis & BA/MA babus.

 

[Azaad]

From what we know rafale did flew after that night, and allegedly, a rafale shot down a jf17 using mica.

Did I ask you ?

Haridwar mein har bhosadi waala bhaiya ka kaam hi doosron ke G mein ungli kar soonghna maloom hota hain.

Beta pitah ke , pati patni ke , chhatra master ke , master pracharya ke aur sab dost ek doosre ke .

 

[Galaxy]

I’m getting a good laugh at the people in the comments talking about the R-37M not being able to maneuver or hit fighter size targets. The R-37M has knocked out multiple fighters and as far out as 213km which is the furthest kill in aviation history.

If people think the R-37M can’t maneuver because of its size 4.06 meters (13 ft 4 in) then how would they explain the S-200 which is 10.8 meters (35 ft 4 in) and how it shot down hundreds of aircraft over Vietnam and the Gulf with the latest being an Israeli F-16 over Syria or how would they explain S-300s and S-400 knocking out fighters and drones?

 

[BON PLAN]

If our rafale hvnt meteor BVR missiles, why they flying near border to get hit by pakistani missiles??? they can easily shoot SCALP missiles from 500 km range. where no pakistani sam nd bvr missile can hit it. seems like our planners r stupid. if we r not targetting pakistani aircrafts, then rafale should launch SCALP from 250 km far away LOC. We got our last rafale in 2022, so meteor integration not happened from 2 years in our rafale is biggest stupidity. coz its our front line fighters.

Not sure these SCALP are 500km range. It may be the MCTR range one, ie 250km. I don't know.

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

Not sure these SCALP are 500km range. It may be the MCTR range one, ie 250km. I don't know.

india joined MCTR in 2016...why would we take 250 km range version of scalp? we hv to take care of chinese also. In chinese case we need more range.

 

[shade2]

OPEX of MKI is extremely high. It eats up most of IAF's OPEX budget. You want more MKIs ? Get MoD / GoI to assure IAF of higher budget provisions.

Which brings me to an important point. Fifth Generation FAs are by their very nature extremely expensive to maintain viz the F-35.

Check on the OPEX budget & T&Cs for operation of the F-35 in the US. GAO reports would be a good starting point. It's due to this reason LM doesn't advice more than ~ 80 hours/ year in training time , likely less than that . That's ~ 6.5 hours / month . Instead training on simulators are strongly recommended .

Attaching the operating comparisons between F-35 ( & by extension a J-20 ) as compared to the Rafale courtesy a French member Picdelamirand-Oil from Strat Front.


Now think of what it's going to be for us once the AMCA Mk-1 becomes production ready given the mentality of our tenth pass Dhotis & BA ( Hons ) in Eng Literature Suits .

>Too chindi to increase budget for new purchases
>Too chindi to increase budget for running existing equipment

Chindigiri of these bean counters today will cost the country in the future.

 

[neelaslayer]

View: https://x.com/SJha1618/status/1940439516185272478?t=jxbc8HigyUWvRrLMIaDLJA&s=19

UK sells Royal Marines hovercraft to Pakistan

Three decommissioned Royal Marines hovercraft have been sold to Pakistan in a government-to-government deal aimed at supporting coastal and humanitarian operations, Defence Equipment & Support (DE&S) has confirmed.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

 

[redpanda]

>Too chindi to increase budget for new purchases
>Too chindi to increase budget for running existing equipment

Chindigiri of these bean counters today will cost the country in the future.

Our mindset is kind stuck in our poverty porn days tbh. It takes time to get out of this fiscal prudence behaviour. Let's hope our baboons get out of this behaviour sooner than later. There are some ex baboons who had written articles about how we need spend more and get out this mindset as well. I remember reading those. So such baboons are also there. They could very well be chandigarh lobby member in secret but hey atleast they want us to stop being chindi. So I have faith things will change because such let us not be chindi baboon are also there somewhere.

 

[redpanda]

View: https://x.com/SJha1618/status/1940439516185272478?t=jxbc8HigyUWvRrLMIaDLJA&s=19

UK sells Royal Marines hovercraft to Pakistan

Three decommissioned Royal Marines hovercraft have been sold to Pakistan in a government-to-government deal aimed at supporting coastal and humanitarian operations, Defence Equipment & Support (DE&S) has confirmed.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

Well they are just doing excercise. F-35 that is stuck here was also part of that excercise. Hovercraft hai bhai SSBN nahi. What will Pakistan even do with those?

 

[shade2]

Well they are just doing excercise. F-35 that is stuck here was also part of that excercise. Hovercraft hai bhai SSBN nahi. What will Pakistan even do with those?

Hovercraft is likely a jaziya purchase from the UK by the Paapistanis.

Our coastguard has 15 hovercrafts made by the same company( by GRSE ) btw

 

[liberalredditor]

Hovercraft is likely a jaziya purchase from the UK by the Paapistanis.

Our coastguard has 15 hovercrafts made by the same company( by GRSE ) btw

what happened to our jaziya apache rtr?? seems like burgerica reincarnated houdini for this work

 

[shade2]

what happened to our jaziya apache rtr?? seems like burgerica reincarnated houdini for this work

India to get 1st batch of Apache choppers this month, to deploy along Pak border

The delivery of Apache AH-64E attack helicopters from the United States has missed multiple deadlines. As part of a $600 million deal signed in 2020 with the US, the Indian Army expected delivery of six Apache helicopters by May-June 2024.

www.indiatoday.in

MERE KARAN ARJUN AAYENGE
ZAROOR AAYENGE

 

[ArjunMK1A]

View: https://x.com/SJha1618/status/1940439516185272478?t=jxbc8HigyUWvRrLMIaDLJA&s=19

UK sells Royal Marines hovercraft to Pakistan

Three decommissioned Royal Marines hovercraft have been sold to Pakistan in a government-to-government deal aimed at supporting coastal and humanitarian operations, Defence Equipment & Support (DE&S) has confirmed.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

Saurav jha talked about this. Honestly I am not happy with this. Bunch of soyboys from failing power done an Shooting exercise near our coast. We can call this in international water blah blah. But role reversed, we all know the whining.

what happened to our jaziya apache rtr?? seems like burgerica reincarnated houdini for this work

TVS will launch the RTX 450 before IA getting puny 6 apaches.

 

[r8rdarklord]

Worst case scenario those idiots would say it's too expensive and might even try to kill it...in the name of fiscal prudence.

But what really might happen is more delays in the name of financial feasibility & fiscal prudence. Let's hope whoever gets the AMCA deal has enough lobbying power to convince those Dhotis & BA/MA babus.

There are enough engineers in the Babu class however in their zealousness to do babugiri they may have forgotten their basics.

 

[r8rdarklord]

They can always buy more Su30, it's a repeat order so no tender-tender bullshit
plus
give money, equipment talent whatever is necessary to get Astra mk2 and Gandiva into service.

The benefit to this over French maal is that we have total control on the platform and weaponry, no need to get fucked over by integration delays, delivery delays, total loot in name of integrating weaponry etc.

Obviously this is the common sense approach so won't be done.

Why buy a dated aircraft when improvements are happening in SU 35S. Russia is using them in the Ukraine war extensively. They are also making tweaks to the fighter jet given their learning against Western missile defenses.

 

[username unkown]

I’m getting a good laugh at the people in the comments talking about the R-37M not being able to maneuver or hit fighter size targets. The R-37M has knocked out multiple fighters and as far out as 213km which is the furthest kill in aviation history.

If people think the R-37M can’t maneuver because of its size 4.06 meters (13 ft 4 in) then how would they explain the S-200 which is 10.8 meters (35 ft 4 in) and how it shot down hundreds of aircraft over Vietnam and the Gulf with the latest being an Israeli F-16 over Syria or how would they explain S-300s and S-400 knocking out fighters and drones?

"I am having good laugh at people commenting r 37 not manuverable or able to hit fighter jet "
lol r 37 is old bulky missile and it reaches mach 6 of course it not gonna be any manuverable with advance warming any fighter jet can Dodge it by manuvers it designed to hit enemy awacs , tankers ,etc

Muh 213km kill from su57 which are only 20 are made and still under testing yeah sure buddy they sure did shoot it down
R37 is bulky when you compare it to other aam and those sam you are talking about well those long-range sam have multiple different missile interceptors for different role lets take s 400 as example
400 km missile is for force multiplayer like awacs and iaf used it for that very role
Those 250 km & 120 km varient are for fighter jet as they are more agile and manuverable

 

[Nutcracker]

I don't think they will sanction test infrastructure without something to test.

Then explain Kaveri situation. BJPigs have their share of lethargy spanned across 11 years. Thats why GTRE has to beg Ruskies for slot in IL76 testbed.

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

some qus:-
1:- what kind of missile we use for delivering nuclear bombs from our aircrafts??
2:- which our aircrafts hv capability to carry these missiles?
3:- do any other country (russia nd france) provide their nuclear delivery missiles to us? if yes, then why these countries provide nuclear delivery missiles to us nd no other countries hv objection about it. coz selling nuclear tipped missiles r taboo.
4:- what kind of air launched missile pakistan used for their air launched nuclear delivery missiles?
5:- Are these nuclear deliver missile from aircrafts r effective enough to defeat enemy sam missiles nd BMD system. what technology they used?
if any one hv credible answer plz reply. coz i dont know which our indigenous missile lanuched nuclear delivery from aircrafts. thnx

 

[randombully]

1:- what kind of missile we use for delivering nuclear bombs from our aircrafts??

Answer for 1,2,5
No missile, a squad of Mirage 2000 is modified to carry a 20Kilo ton nuclear bomb.

Rafale was supposed to be a successor of Mirage for this nuke delivery role.
But so far no indian weapons have Integrated on them.
Plus fighter jets carrying nuclear bomb are relatively lot more vunrable in modern world, unless it's a stealth jet carrying nuke inside it's iwb.

:- do any other country (russia nd france) provide their nuclear delivery missiles to us

No.

- what kind of air launched missile pakistan used for their air launched nuclear delivery missiles?

They only have land launched ballistic missiles with smaller tactical nukes on them.

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

Answer for 1,2,5
No missile, a squad of Mirage 2000 is modified to carry a 20Kilo ton nuclear bomb.

Rafale was supposed to be a successor of Mirage for this nuke delivery role.
But so far no indian weapons have Integrated on them.
Plus fighter jets carrying nuclear bomb are relatively lot more vunrable in modern world, unless it's a stealth jet carrying nuke inside it's iwb.


No.


They only have land launched ballistic missiles with smaller tactical nukes on them.

rafale uses ASMP-A missile, an upgraded version of the ASMP, arrived into French service in 2009. This version had an extended range of up to 500 km, and supported a new 300 kt thermonuclear warhead.



Features:
It is 5.38 m in length, 0.38 m in body diameter, and has a launch weight of 860 kg.
It is an inertial-guided, air-to-surface missile most likely directed by terrain-mapping and a pre-programmed onboard computer.
The motor assembly is comprised of a solid-propellant engine which fires after the missile has been released from the aircraft.
Upon ignition, the missile accelerates to Mach 2.0 in five seconds, after which the booster cartridge is ejected from the ramjet exhaust nozzle.

do we get these nuclear tipped missile from france??? can u provide some specifications of our air launched nuclear missile???