Indian Air Force: News & Discussions (40 Viewers)

[Psacha123]

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US has to provide authorization for export since you're using their engine.
It's the reason why Gripen hasn't found much export success

Looks like Peru chose Gripen E over F-16 Blk 70 and Rafale F4.
Total 24 jets for 35Bn. That’s almost a whopping $150M per jet!!


View: https://x.com/yusufdfi/status/1943125445488316636?s=46

 

[Tumba]

Looks like Peru chose Gripen E over F-16 Blk 70 and Rafale F4.
Total 24 jets for 35Bn. That’s almost a whopping $150M per jet!!


View: https://x.com/yusufdfi/status/1943125445488316636?s=46

Nice choice Gripen E is what we want Tejas MK2 to become

 

[redpanda]

Indian Air Force to Get Six Tejas Jets by March 2026: HAL Chief
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Indian Air Force to Get Six Tejas Jets by March 2026

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited has verified the supply of at least six Tejas multirole combat aircraft to the Indian Air Force in March next year.

thedefensepost.com

Same misquoted news recycled from the PTI interview for views. Indian media being cheap as usual..

 

[snakeeyes07]

South Korean loyal wingman UCAV with Meteors.

Just by looking at it, SK design is better than CATS Warrior with larger internal bay. Why is the front landing gear so far back/aft?


View: https://x.com/mason_8718/status/1942568146327724445

 

[redpanda]

South Korean loyal wingman UCAV with Meteors.

Just by looking at it, SK design is better than CATS Warrior with larger internal bay. Why is the front landing gear so far back/aft?


View: https://x.com/mason_8718/status/1942568146327724445
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This is the first iteration of CATS Warrior though. They are planning to make a bigger CATS Warrior with larger IWB space and payload capacity to carry BVRAAM or WVRAAM. We can call that CATS Warrior Mk2.

 

[FalconSlayers]

This is the first iteration of CATS Warrior though. They are planning to make a bigger CATS Warrior with larger IWB space and payload capacity to carry BVRAAM or WVRAAM. We can call that CATS Warrior Mk2.

Yeah, this one is most likely a tech demonstrator that can also be offered to IAF. Kind of like what SWiFT is for Ghatak UCAV. Although problem is in propulsion, we have options in 3.73KN turbojet and 4.5KN turbofan only. HTFE-25 not coming this decade, and Kaveri Derivative Engine will be too powerful suitable for Ghatak sized drones.

Unless anything progresses on HTFE-25, I don't see a future for the bigger variant. Although I do feel they could've made an XQ-58 equivalent with twin Manik engines or a HALE UCAV with the same.

HAL did mention a turbofan HALE UCAV but I don't know if they are progressing forward on that or not.

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

I think govt is Playing a game... it wants massive outrage on the crashes and falling squadrons... not just outrage but street protests as well... but who will protest on these issues in a nation that is preoccupied with Laadli woke bheemti/sulli yojna.

But hypothetically if such an outrage gets generated and sustains... any morning we will get the news that IND-US reach landmark agreement for procurement of 200x F-21/18 fighter jets.

If you look at all available 4.5 gen options... then only the manufacturers of these 2 aircrafts are in a position of scaling up numbers to almost 50 or more a year.

& one condition in f35 procurement is first procure the f16(21).

That early 90s image of clean shaven Modi in White house is forcing me to draw certain conclusions.

What if the 11yrs of lackluster modernisation effort was by design to push the nation in a situation where we have no other option than going US way... in same way as 1971 pushed us towards USSR.

 

[snakeeyes07]

I'm betting on heron tp.

MQ-9B has great capability enhancement potential. It's engine (Dornier) MRO already exists at HAL.

 

[Sanglamorre]

I think govt is Playing a game... it wants massive outrage on the crashes and falling squadrons... not just outrage but street protests as well... but who will protest on these issues in a nation that is preoccupied with Laadli woke bheemti/sulli yojna.

But hypothetically if such an outrage gets generated and sustains... any morning we will get the news that IND-US reach landmark agreement for procurement of 200x F-21/18 fighter jets.

If you look at all available 4.5 gen options... then only the manufacturers of these 2 aircrafts are in a position of scaling up numbers to almost 50 or more a year.

& one condition in f35 procurement is first procure the f16(21).

That early 90s image of clean shaven Modi in White house is forcing me to draw certain conclusions.

What if the 11yrs of lackluster modernisation effort was by design to push the nation in a situation where we have no other option than going US way... in same way as 1971 pushed us towards USSR.

Govt won't waste highly skilled, deeply invested in pilots to play this game. This isn't some 4D chess, planes are old, successive GoIs fucked around too much and are now finding out.

 

[shade2]

I think govt is Playing a game... it wants massive outrage on the crashes and falling squadrons... not just outrage but street protests as well... but who will protest on these issues in a nation that is preoccupied with Laadli woke bheemti/sulli yojna.

Playing game only makes sense in the ACM publicly bashing HAL context.

i.e an officer having a 2 year term, after which he can enjoy retirement, won't bash DPSU openly unless ofc he has received the green signal from political leadership.

Fighters are crashing because IAF is over using what are post-retirement age planes.

Anyway these are good arguments to import *something*
Which i think is Rafale.

It could also be F-16 knowing how badly Leaderji wants to appease Trump.
F-16 will also kill tejas definitively, and yes i mean the mk1a.

Lets see what happens

 

[randombully]

MQ-9B has great capability enhancement potential. It's engine (Dornier) MRO already exists at HAL.
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Indeed, purely capability wise, mq9 is better.

but you know what heron tp has?

 

[liberalredditor]

I think govt is Playing a game... it wants massive outrage on the crashes and falling squadrons... not just outrage but street protests as well... but who will protest on these issues in a nation that is preoccupied with Laadli woke bheemti/sulli yojna

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abhi engineering colleges band hai, collect people, simple.

 

[redpanda]

@FalconSlayers @shade2 You see Alpha Defence in this video is saying that Tapas and Archer-NG are basically on death bed because the engine around which those are built that is Astro engine is now owned by a Chinese company. Originally when we bought those engines, it was an Austrian company.


View: https://youtu.be/uR5mWNmQ7oc

 

[liberalredditor]

Tapas and Archer-NG are basically on death bed because the engine around which those are built that is Astro engine is now owned by a Chinese

they are being replaced with vrde jayem automotive diesel engine 180hp then 220hp also. so engine shouldnt be an issue

 

[shade2]

@FalconSlayers @shade2 You see Alpha Defence in this video is saying that Tapas and Archer-NG are basically on death bed because the engine around which those are built that is Astro engine is now owned by a Chinese company. Originally when we bought those engines, it was an Austrian company.


View: https://youtu.be/uR5mWNmQ7oc

Jhumla excuse to kill the project and import.

 

[randombully]

they are being replaced with vrde jayem automotive diesel engine 180hp then 220hp also. so engine shouldnt be an issue

But if 80+ numbers of 35k+feet 36+ hour endurance drones are bought, then there won't be any demand left for 18-24 hour, 30k feet altitude drones.

 

[Doreamon]

@FalconSlayers @shade2 You see Alpha Defence in this video is saying that Tapas and Archer-NG are basically on death bed because the engine around which those are built that is Astro engine is now owned by a Chinese company. Originally when we bought those engines, it was an Austrian company.


View: https://youtu.be/uR5mWNmQ7oc

There was news of a 180hp engine being developed by VRDE and jayem automotive for Tapas . Beside HAL licence produce the engine used in mq9b drone from usa . Anyway it surprises me they have not been able to make a engine for drone .

 

[redpanda]

There was news of a 180hp engine being developed by VRDE and jayem automotive for Tapas . Beside HAL licence produce the engine used in mq9b drone from usa . Anyway it surprises me they have not been able to make a engine for drone .

Lack of testing facilities. Just look at the jugaadi for testing that 180hp engine shown in that video I have shared. Lack of testing infrastructure is what makes certification process so long in India. That engine will have to be send to some foreign country for test and then it will get certified and then it will get used in a one of those drones. And then those drones too will have to go through usual procedure. See Archer-NG will probably require some modifications to work with MQ-9b's engine. Idk why HAL doesn't do that.

 

[shade2]

IAF needs a transformation. Bring in 5G fighters, fast-track Tejas Mk2, upgrade AMCA to 6G

India’s fighter aircraft strength will be down to 31 squadrons by the end of the year, down from 42. It will further reduce when Mirage 2000, MiG-29, and Jaguar squadrons are phased out.

theprint.in

Dalali
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India will have to give serious thought to bridging the current gap in quantity and quality by importing or license-manufacturing at least 6-7 squadrons of 4.5/5G fighters. It will also have to upgrade the AMCA to a sixth-generation fighter with an indigenous aero engine. There is also a case for terminating the Tejas Mk1A project, after the first order of 83 aircraft is completed, and commencing the manufacturing of Tejas Mk2 at the earliest. The IAF cannot afford to be outranged by the adversary’s air-to-air missiles.

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Cross Border Punjabi Brotherhood
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The PAF certainly stole a march on the IAF in multi-domain operations. It has integrated all elements of air power with satellite data links, enabling synergised operations using multiple detection and weapon platforms. Air-to-air, air defence, and surface-to-surface missiles may be employed by detection of the target by one platform, being fired from another, and guided by yet another.
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[redpanda]

IAF needs a transformation. Bring in 5G fighters, fast-track Tejas Mk2, upgrade AMCA to 6G

India’s fighter aircraft strength will be down to 31 squadrons by the end of the year, down from 42. It will further reduce when Mirage 2000, MiG-29, and Jaguar squadrons are phased out.

theprint.in

Dalali
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India will have to give serious thought to bridging the current gap in quantity and quality by importing or license-manufacturing at least 6-7 squadrons of 4.5/5G fighters. It will also have to upgrade the AMCA to a sixth-generation fighter with an indigenous aero engine. There is also a case for terminating the Tejas Mk1A project, after the first order of 83 aircraft is completed, and commencing the manufacturing of Tejas Mk2 at the earliest. The IAF cannot afford to be outranged by the adversary’s air-to-air missiles.

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Cross Border Punjabi Brotherhood
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The PAF certainly stole a march on the IAF in multi-domain operations. It has integrated all elements of air power with satellite data links, enabling synergised operations using multiple detection and weapon platforms. Air-to-air, air defence, and surface-to-surface missiles may be employed by detection of the target by one platform, being fired from another, and guided by yet another.
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Gentlemen army general take as usual. A chunk of our generals always had this delusion of looking at the other side generol's suit boot attire with whiskey drinking habits and thinking he is sem2sem as us. Professional army like us. Though, there have been a section of IA who see through this facade like Major General GD. Bakshi. And they understand behind that suit boot and whiskey is a jehadi snake.