Indian Economy

Canada didnt mess up per se by importing rural punjabis, Canada got SCAMMED by khalistanis to import rural punjabis because Canadians are just as ignorant and stupid as americans are at world affairs but too nice and polite, so they dont carry the reputation.
Canada for eg, still allows 'political refugees' from India, South korea, etc. just like as from China or Iran - as if Indians or SoKoreans are getting assassinated or jailed for their political beliefs.

besides, as you said, Indians are louder than the Chinese as fundamental nature and ALSO we dont have language handicap as they do - the average highschool pass Indian understands english, the average highschool pass chinese does not. So a lot of the racist memes/racism online against chinese 20 years ago mostly flew under the radar TO the chinese and were mostly picked up by the American-Chinese/Canadian-Chinese or the ones getting educated HERE.

So racism against Indians will be stronger than against the Chinese for two factors:
1. This isnt 2005 but 2025 and internet is FAR more developed in social media propagation
2. Indians are giving it back 200 times more frequently than the Chinese did, due to said language advantage. We are having full scale dehati desi vs dehati pignat flamewars on the internet, where Noida-man is flaming away Ozark-man from half a planet away.
This factor is absent in east asian racism, coz the average dude in China does not get to even UNDERSTAND the average yankee cope tropes, let alone access forums to argue with them.
There are cunning Indians, but they mostly work silently, look at UK hindus, they mostly stay underground and slowly gain ground, most of the london's prime real estate is owned by Indians now, but you will never see britards whining about it.

people need to understand jews get ingrained to power structure so easily because they stay silent and grind and make effort to assimilate, also because of historical reasons like, Christians weren't allowed to do financial work during the middle ages, so jews took it, when industrial revolution happened suddenly financial work become extremely powerful and stereotype of Jews being behind every conspiracy came about. things are different today so nobody will bat an eye about Indians being there in finance.
 
Would language and perceived threat explain why- and this is a favourite horse that I like to ride:)- countries like Indonesia, Congo, Philippines and Brazil are not scrutinised to the extent that India is? It has reached the point where historical controversies i.e Aurangzeb et al are brought to the attention of readers in the west. Movies like the Kashmir Files are critiqued or attacked. Sometimes, even something relatively innocuous as Indian TV commercials are mentioned by the Western / international media! Doesn't Indonesia( with the Dutch) Congo( the Belgians) Brazil( Portuguese) Mexico( Spanish, French and Americans), Philippines have historical hot button issues or controversial movies? I cannot for the life of me recall an article in the Western media dealing with these, let alone taking a position on it.
 
Would language and perceived threat explain why- and this is a favourite horse that I like to ride:)- countries like Indonesia, Congo, Philippines and Brazil are not scrutinised to the extent that India is? It has reached the point where historical controversies i.e Aurangzeb et al are brought to the attention of readers in the west. Movies like the Kashmir Files are critiqued or attacked. Sometimes, even something relatively innocuous as Indian TV commercials are mentioned by the Western / international media! Doesn't Indonesia( with the Dutch) Congo( the Belgians) Brazil( Portuguese) Mexico( Spanish, French and Americans), Philippines have historical hot button issues or controversial movies? I cannot for the life of me recall an article in the Western media dealing with these, let alone taking a position on it.
Its from my previous point, Indians like to make noise, I absolutely detest those American "desis" who trivialize and oversimplify Indian society and culture so they can present it to their white master ( both liberal and conservative), this makes an avg westoid think they have enough knowledge to comment on issues in India. no other community does it, they keep their inter-politics to themselves.
 
Its from my previous point, Indians like to make noise, I absolutely detest those American "desis" who trivialize and oversimplify Indian society and culture so they can present it to their white master ( most liberal and conservative), this makes an avg westoid think they have enough knowledge to comment on issues in India. no other community does it, they keep their inter-politics to themselves.
Those Indians should be named and shamed, to put it simply. Siddarth Deb, Asis Ray, Srinivasan Jain, Mihir Sharma are names that come immediately to mind.
 
Would language and perceived threat explain why- and this is a favourite horse that I like to ride:)- countries like Indonesia, Congo, Philippines and Brazil are not scrutinised to the extent that India is? It has reached the point where historical controversies i.e Aurangzeb et al are brought to the attention of readers in the west. Movies like the Kashmir Files are critiqued or attacked. Sometimes, even something relatively innocuous as Indian TV commercials are mentioned by the Western / international media! Doesn't Indonesia( with the Dutch) Congo( the Belgians) Brazil( Portuguese) Mexico( Spanish, French and Americans), Philippines have historical hot button issues or controversial movies? I cannot for the life of me recall an article in the Western media dealing with these, let alone taking a position on it.

Notice who writes those articles in global media. Most of the times its from the brown coolie class which the goras have been cultivating since colonialism. Remember, that the global left always searches for the local left and then co-opts them and the left/coolie patrakar ecosystem is very strong in India.

Other countries that you mentioned don't have such deep ecosystems.
 
Mobility is usually a part of many FTA's. As an example, UK- Australia FTA allows UK citizens to work in Australia for 3 years.(See below). UK actually negotiated hard for this.


Both Chile and Singapore in their FTA's have a exclusive kind of visa called H1B1(different from the popular H1b) which allows them to work in the US indefinitely

Australia has a similar deal with the US.

Honestly, I don't see much wrong with this. We run huge trade deficits and remittances help stabilize the currency to some extent. Offloading a few thousands abroad doesn't matter that much in the long run given that we are unable to generate enuf jobs anyway.

Indians need to understand one thing that i have learnt, AS an immigrant to the west ( and i immigrated a long time ago, as in turn of the millenium period):

The rules of immigration have changed, we now live in NEW paradigm shift of immigration 2.0
Here, i will even draw a line in the sand for those who care :
immigration of humans in recorded history can be divided into two neat piles.
a) 10,000 BCE to 2010
b) 2010- present.

What changed in 2010 ? INTERNET became a broadband media purveyor. THIS is the game-changer in immigration dynamics.
Why?
Because until 2010, you did not have mass internet driven media & entertainment package. Meaning, the immigrant, be him white german or chinku, be it Rome 2000 years ago or new york circa 1959, all faced the SAME scenario : assimilate or wither away. And if you dont assimilate, no problem, your kids definitely will, because where else will they get their culture from, if not us ?

This is why whether you came in the 80s or 1900 or 2005, if you EVER visited the Indian cultural centres in USA or Canada or Croatian cultural centre or Chinese cultural centre, they ALL look the same :filled with either fresh arrivals or old fart immigrant gen who never assimilated and ZERO 2nd/3rd gen in sight.

Well, technology has changed the rules.
now, we have chinku sitting in Canada listening 24/7 to Xi jinping on Xinhua live. Or Indian sitting in San Fransisco and screaming at Arnab on tv.
And when said and done, they watch 'whatever bollywood movie/tv show they wish' with their kids.
Ie, immigrants are now cultural colonists.

And this is why, if you LOOK closely, some immigrant heavy nations like Australia, USA etc. have modified their official immigration services page to now say 'you should also adopt our values and become australian/american by values'. These additions were all done in post 2010, as the paradigm shifted.

And as is standard rule of thumb, whenever paradigm shifts, it takes about 25-30 years to translate to the mainstream and for the mainstream to be aware of the paradigm shift.

So mainstream media- be it west/east are still stuck in version 1.0 for immigrants - they see it as net loss culturally and politically, as all immigrants in history have been net loss to motherland over time.

This is why i am not anti-immigration into the west. because its colonizing them on steroids as far as pace goes - because this is magnified MANYFOLDS by the simple fact that the average westerner has completely catastrophic population growth rate via breeding and immigrants breed a lot more than them, regardless of where they come from ( muslims and africans obviously breed the most).

Population growth rates are geometric functions, meaning, slight change to simple variables like growth rate of ethnicity x vs y can lead to HUGE differences in demographics over 50-60 years or more.
But then again i dont need to tell Indians that who've seen this in play with muslim birth rate vs hindu birth rate. now imagine if hindus were white and had 50% lower birth rate and muslims were desis who had 10% lower birth rate. That is what birth rate in the west is like.

An example of how the mainstream isnt aware of tipping points and paradigm shifts, is the simple google-able fact that more non-white babies are being born in USA as US citizens than white and this tipping point came in 2019 ( it got lost in all the covid noise). So that means, in another 10 years time, the majority of high schools in USA will be majority non white.
Ofcourse, this wont reflect in job market, media, politics, culture etc for another 2 decades, as high school students or 20 year olds dont dictate culture/economics/politics but the 40+ crowd does.

So the shift in US demographics and destiny has already happened. It will be visible in about 40-50 years, because those babies who are representing the shift, are still learning how to walk and havent become power player demographics yet.
 
Notice who writes those articles in global media. Most of the times its from the brown coolie class which the goras have been cultivating since colonialism. Remember, that the global left always searches for the local left and then co-opts them and the left/coolie patrakar ecosystem is very strong in India.

Other countries that you mentioned don't have such deep ecosystems.
If I have a gun with two bullets and I have to kill a racist and a brown coolie, I will shoot the racist twice and strangle the coolie with my bare hands.
 
Can you explain to me, why did China, at same or worse economic benchmark as India in 1950, throughout its 'completely poor starving africa' stage to ' middle income success story' has never let the Yuan devalue as much as the Rupee ?
IIRC exhange rate for Yuan never dropped below 10, ie, 1USD = 10 Yuan is the alltime low since Chinese independence.
Whereas we have gone from 1USD = 40INR from 1995 to double that in 2025.

I understand your equation perfectly, but why is this equation requiring us to have 1USD = 80INR to retain competitive advantage, when China retains the same with a currency that is literally 16 times more valuable than ours ??
Great question. It is related to internal affordability or domestic inflation.

You see as the INR devalues the contribution from each successive one rupee devaluation towards competitive edge goes on decreasing. However, the domestic price of the good keep on increasing.

The equation do not require 1USD = 80INR. It is just our benchmark. I choose it arbitrarly. The important point is to see the relation between exchange rate and competitive edge.
 
Would language and perceived threat explain why- and this is a favourite horse that I like to ride:)- countries like Indonesia, Congo, Philippines and Brazil are not scrutinised to the extent that India is? It has reached the point where historical controversies i.e Aurangzeb et al are brought to the attention of readers in the west. Movies like the Kashmir Files are critiqued or attacked. Sometimes, even something relatively innocuous as Indian TV commercials are mentioned by the Western / international media! Doesn't Indonesia( with the Dutch) Congo( the Belgians) Brazil( Portuguese) Mexico( Spanish, French and Americans), Philippines have historical hot button issues or controversial movies? I cannot for the life of me recall an article in the Western media dealing with these, let alone taking a position on it.

Well a famous US academic who comments on international affairs and has since 1990s - John Marshaimer ( spelling isnt correct i am sure) - straight up said that one thing that SHOCKED the western world in this recent Ukraine conflict, is hosts like Palki Sharma - erudite, english speaking, who presents the 'enemies view' in clear english.
So this is 100% a language issue because there aint no Palki Sharma in Chinese, korean, Japanese, etc media because Chinese, koreans, japanese etc do not listen to news from chinese, korean,japanese people speaking it in english. AT ALL !!!!!!

Just compare Jaishankar at Raisana dialogue defend our relationship with Russia while the Chinese Foreign minister completely flub the question on CNN and its 100% down to language skills.

Indian diplomacy is more 'talk' than 'action' because well, diplomacy as one famously said, is the art of telling someone to go to hell in such a way that they end up asking you for directions and therefore, is fundamentally based on communication and any idiot can tell that Jaishankar is fit to teach english in most universities while Chinese FM wont pass ESL if you dropped the exam on him as a surprise.

The english language media in India is both a boon and a curse - even though till now its mostly been a curse as we have not been able to control our narrative well in this media format. But we are starting to and world has understood since Ukraine war went full kinetic, that Indian foreign policy is "India is on India's side and will do what India thinks is best for itself".
 
Great question. It is related to internal affordability or domestic inflation.

You see as the INR devalues the contribution from each successive one rupee devaluation towards competitive edge goes on decreasing. However, the domestic price of the good keep on increasing.

The equation do not require 1USD = 80INR. It is just our benchmark. I choose it arbitrarly. The important point is to see the relation between exchange rate and competitive edge.
I am not economics person and i didnt understand your reply.
I know you used 1USD = 80 as benchmark.
My question is, why didnt China end up devaluing its currency to 1USD = 80 yen or such and why does China get to keep competitive currency based advantage with US by having 1USD = 5 yen, while we are struggling at 1USD = 80 INR and go haye raam if it becomes 1USD = 70INR, which is still 14 times cheaper than Chinese currency.

Ie, why is China able to match us in this currency related competitive advantage despite sporting a currency 16 times more powerful than us in conversion rates is my question.
 
Notice who writes those articles in global media. Most of the times its from the brown coolie class which the goras have been cultivating since colonialism. Remember, that the global left always searches for the local left and then co-opts them and the left/coolie patrakar ecosystem is very strong in India.

Other countries that you mentioned don't have such deep ecosystems.
I think you and others have answered this before :), so no need for me to bring it up again. Yes so true, those communities don't have such visible and easily accessible left types who constantly attack, denounce or belittle the culture and achievements of their respective countries. Only India!
 
shouldn't we be wishing for other way around, currency to get stronger backed by export growth?
Nope, devaluing currency to make our goods cheaper to export. China runs hundreds of billions in current account surplus yet it continues to devalue or keep it's Renminbi/Yuan stable. Strong currency suits countries with consumption based economy financed by their reserve currencies.
 
Nope, devaluing currency to make our goods cheaper to export. China runs hundreds of billions in current account surplus yet it continues to devalue or keep it's Renminbi/Yuan stable. Strong currency suits countries with consumption based economy financed by their reserve currencies.
bold of you to assume that there aren't delusional babus who like to think we don't need export and we can manage with our domestic consumption
 
Well a famous US academic who comments on international affairs and has since 1990s - John Marshaimer ( spelling isnt correct i am sure) - straight up said that one thing that SHOCKED the western world in this recent Ukraine conflict, is hosts like Palki Sharma - erudite, english speaking, who presents the 'enemies view' in clear english.
So this is 100% a language issue because there aint no Palki Sharma in Chinese, korean, Japanese, etc media because Chinese, koreans, japanese etc do not listen to news from chinese, korean,japanese people speaking it in english. AT ALL !!!!!!

Just compare Jaishankar at Raisana dialogue defend our relationship with Russia while the Chinese Foreign minister completely flub the question on CNN and its 100% down to language skills.

Indian diplomacy is more 'talk' than 'action' because well, diplomacy as one famously said, is the art of telling someone to go to hell in such a way that they end up asking you for directions and therefore, is fundamentally based on communication and any idiot can tell that Jaishankar is fit to teach english in most universities while Chinese FM wont pass ESL if you dropped the exam on him as a surprise.

The english language media in India is both a boon and a curse - even though till now its mostly been a curse as we have not been able to control our narrative well in this media format. But we are starting to and world has understood since Ukraine war went full kinetic, that Indian foreign policy is "India is on India's side and will do what India thinks is best for itself".
Yah, I have a Jewish Canadian friend who praises India for its stance on the Ukraine Russia war, that being neutral, and calling for peace and the end of the conflict, is the right approach.
 
I am not economics person and i didnt understand your reply.
I know you used 1USD = 80 as benchmark.
My question is, why didnt China end up devaluing its currency to 1USD = 80 yen or such and why does China get to keep competitive currency based advantage with US by having 1USD = 5 yen, while we are struggling at 1USD = 80 INR and go haye raam if it becomes 1USD = 70INR, which is still 14 times cheaper than Chinese currency.

Ie, why is China able to match us in this currency related competitive advantage despite sporting a currency 16 times more powerful than us in conversion rates is my question.
Chinese were more disciplined and we were not. We let our currency slide. But the mechanism remains same. Even the equation tells us the competitive edge is more sensitive when there is parity between two currencies. So, keeping the value of two currencies closer has more amplification in their cost advantage without compromising with domestic inflation.

We were just undisciplined with out currency. We too should have kept it higher. But the cat is out of the bag now. We have internalized it. So no need to chase it back.
 
Chinese were more disciplined and we were not. We let our currency slide. But the mechanism remains same. Even the equation tells us the competitive edge is more sensitive when there is parity between two currencies. So, keeping the value of two currencies closer has more amplification in their cost advantage without compromising with domestic inflation.

We were just undisciplined with out currency. We too should have kept it higher. But the cat is out of the bag now. We have internalized it. So no need to chase it back.
Thank you for your response.
I still understood nothing. But i wont trouble you further for your time on this.

PS: I am math degree dude, you can skip explaining the relationship of variables on an equation to me- in the rare case i didnt figure it out, i will definitely ask but i just dont understand anything else of what you said lol.
 
Thank you for your response.
I still understood nothing. But i wont trouble you further for your time on this.

PS: I am math degree dude, you can skip explaining the relationship of variables on an equation to me- in the rare case i didnt figure it out, i will definitely ask but i just dont understand anything else of what you said lol.
I think you are stressing yourself needlessly. Its simple. There are two aspects. Cost advantage that is our competitive edge and domestic inflation.
You see if our INR is much closer to USD. The contribution of devaluation of rupee by each unit towards competitive advantage will be more but not much towards domestic inflation. Noone notices price going from say rs 7 to rs 7.1 but will notice if it goes from say 80 to 82. In first case we have gained more cost advantage and yet had minimal domestic inflation.

Our equation however doesn't deal with domestic inflation. Thats why i suspect you are having some confusion. So you have to think out of the equation. Think about in which case is domestic inflation much more visible?

I hope it clarifies.
 
Chinese were more disciplined and we were not. We let our currency slide. But the mechanism remains same. Even the equation tells us the competitive edge is more sensitive when there is parity between two currencies. So, keeping the value of two currencies closer has more amplification in their cost advantage without compromising with domestic inflation.

We were just undisciplined with out currency. We too should have kept it higher. But the cat is out of the bag now. We have internalized it. So no need to chase it back.

I guess my confusion comes from your whole 'chinese are more disciplined than us, we let our currency slide, they did not' angle, coz i dont get how currency exchange rate is like weight watchers program and you can fall asleep at the wheel like us and become fatties apparently in 2 months flat, while apparently chinku always kept up his morning yoga so isnt currency-fatty.

Because from what i can see, the chinese shit-kicked their country far far worse than us in any 'economic' sense during great leap forward, where tens of millions died due to starvation and chinese production flatlined. That to my non-economics mind, should've yeilded 1USD = 5000 yen by this 'weight watchers' logic. Their great leap forward is the equivalent of doing 9 months of kari-tapsyaa weight-watchers then following it up with 10 successive weekends of Indian shaadi and its food.

But clearly it didnt, so clearly i dont understand this business of 'more disciplined with currency by doing 20 more currency pushups than us'.
 
If I have a gun with two bullets and I have to kill a racist and a brown coolie, I will shoot the racist twice and strangle the coolie with my bare hands.
This is why my gun is a SKS. Because in your scenario, my answer is : i shoot the racist with 5 bullets ( aka my entire clip) and then i turn the gun backwards and use the wooden rooskie-made solid butt-stock to bludgeon the brown coolie to death.
This is where Rooskie maal wins over amreeki maal. because if you tried to use any M-16 or AR anything as a unga-bunga caveman club, it will last 3 seconds and break into 3-4 pieces ( coz all of it is plastic+composites and the wood there is, is plywood or laminate, not a chunk of treated tree like rooskie maal.

Some Canadians get this,some dont- i remember going hunting one time and when i get tired and waiting around,i unload the gun, turn it upwards and use it as a leaning stick. One time a canuck dude instantly got 'oh no no no this is how you ruin alignment of gun' spiel to me like i am a noob and i calmly told him that buddy, my gun is a rooskie made solid hunka wood, not plastic like his and if there was a rabbit here, i could club it to death for dinner and still shoot 4/5 for a rabbit sized target at 200 yards with the same gun, while if he tried the same, his gun would be in pieces.

Coz amreeki gun has fancy weight reducing plastic + metal as two main component. Mine is metal + chunk of treated tree. Tree+metal good for unga bunga caveman club.

The other two hunters just laughed along coz they had seen SKS before.
 
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