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Ya'll Remember Raj Kapoor Film made to take dig indirectly at Indian Finance and foreign policy titled Around the World, as then there was rule that only 100 rupees could be exchanged for per day for a foreign trip, so it made difficult for many traveller's to exchange rupee atleats officially. Those were the days of high regulation and total government controls.


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Ya'll Remember Raj Kapoor Film made to take dig indirectly at Indian Finance and foreign policy titled Around the World, as then there was rule that only 100 rupees could be exchanged for per day for a foreign trip, so it made difficult for many traveller's to exchange rupee atleats officially. Those were the days of high regulation and total government controls.


View: https://youtu.be/Y5e1DKBcKtk?si=2BR2Q_inusuGwsrp

One of the not so good movie made by Raj Kapoor who is of Awara, Shri 420, Jagate Raho, Bobbie fame. All his movies relate the story of a poor making an effort to become rich. It is the same story today except it is not Mumbai story anymore. People are making an effort to become rich everywhere in India.
 
Importing corn for producing government subsidised ethanol is a big red flag. Subsidy itself is a major market distortion. Add to that, one of the main goals of ethanol blending is to cut costs of importing fuel, thereby saving some $$$. Buying corn in $$$ negates even that goal.

Importing cheaper corn from open market for public consumption to deflate local corn prices is welcome, but importing for a government subsidised commodity? Big problem. Only a small select group of people are making money at the cost of others.
But sir won't it be beneficial if cost of corn utilized for ethanol production is less than the cost saved in oil imports .
And isn't it that first maruti refused to give deisel option in bs6 vehicles because it was not economical to upgrade deisel engine to this standard .
These are just my curious questions please share if you have any data or information
 
We have a long way to go.

Imagine being so poor that you spend 50% of consumption expenditure just on food.


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The real wages in the primary and secondary sectors that employ 70% of India's workforce have remained stagnant or in some cases, declining, in recent years. On average,a factory worker is still earning the same 10-12k a month that they used to earn back in 2008-09. The difference here is that it's almost impossible to survive on Rs 10k a month today as the cost of living has doubled.

So it does not come as a surprise that people are spending close to 50% of their income on food.
 
But sir won't it be beneficial if cost of corn utilized for ethanol production is less than the cost saved in oil imports .
And isn't it that first maruti refused to give deisel option in bs6 vehicles because it was not economical to upgrade deisel engine to this standard .
These are just my curious questions please share if you have any data or information
We can do some back of the envelope number crunching. Corn is ~60% of input cost of ethanol. ~263kg corn is required for producing 100 litre ethanol.



263 kg corn = ~ $30 as of price today


So for producing every 100L ethanol we are spending ~$30 as input cost of maize.

Government is buying ethanol at ~65 rupees per litre i.e ~6500 INR for 100L.

Now, let's go to ethanol blending. ~15% ethanol blending (I am assuming it's by volume)

For every 1L of petrol, 150 ml of ethanol is mixed.

Price of crude oil as of today = ~$72 per barrel

For using 100L ethanol, crude oil required= (100000/150) = 666L i.e ~4.18 barrels or ~$300

15% of 300 = $45

So to save ~$45 we are spending ~$30....

Wtf 😳(maybe I did something wrong, will check again later)

There may be a 20% margin of error but you get the drift
 
We can do some back of the envelope number crunching. Corn is ~60% of input cost of ethanol. ~263kg corn is required for producing 100 litre ethanol.



263 kg corn = ~ $30 as of price today


So for producing every 100L ethanol we are spending ~$30 as input cost of maize.

Government is buying ethanol at ~65 rupees per litre i.e ~6500 INR for 100L.

Now, let's go to ethanol blending. ~15% ethanol blending (I am assuming it's by volume)

For every 1L of petrol, 150 ml of ethanol is mixed.

Price of crude oil as of today = ~$72 per barrel

For using 100L ethanol, crude oil required= (100000/150) = 666L i.e ~4.18 barrels or ~$300

15% of 300 = $45

So to save ~$45 we are spending ~$30....

Wtf 😳(maybe I did something wrong, will check again later)

There may be a 20% margin of error but you get the drift

bruh. why so much headache.
Just search for pre-vat price of petrol/diesel. Both have same production cost, just VAT varies.
Remove few rupees for transportation. it falls around 50-55Rs. So we are using 65Rs to replace 55Rs.
 
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E vehicles are the future.

If only every EV guys provide a model which does not have 10inch tablet.
i will only buy e vehicle, if two wheeler gives 300 km nd four wheeler gives 600 km real world range. may be possible in india in near 4-5 years. here i m talking about two wheeler priced near 3 lakh nd four wheeler near 30 lakh price range.
 
i will only buy e vehicle, if two wheeler gives 300 km nd four wheeler gives 600 km real world range. may be possible in india in near 4-5 years. here i m talking about two wheeler priced near 3 lakh nd four wheeler near 30 lakh price range.
Why would you need a two-wheeler with 300km range in City?
As far as I remember the ICE scooters comes with meagre 4-5L fuel capacity only and they run similar range as EV scooters, maybe little more.

People with existing EV cars from Tata, MG and Mahindra are doing like 1000KM trips with some planning. Heck someone took his Punch of Nexon EV on Leh trip!​
 
Haldi bhai, how much NCP mill owners benefit from this?
Ya'll that's a Private Sugar factor owned by Olam so no direct benefit to the NCP.
 

First trillion : 1947-2008 - 61 years (largely socialism driven economy)
second trillion : 2008-2016 - 8 years (while recovering from 08 crash)
third trillion : 2016-2021 - 5 years (while managing a pandemic )
fourth trillion : 2021-2025(?) - 4 years (while two wars effecting trade)

61-->8-->5-->4(?)

GDP growth is not an entitlement, it has to be earned on merit.
if the public don't end up of burning down our own house just because of strong fleeting political opinions, quite possible to achieve the numbers .

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edit : a small correction on wars has been made.
 
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First trillion : 1947-2008 - 61 years (largely socialism driven economy)
second trillion : 2008-2016 - 8 years (while recovering from 08 crash)
third trillion : 2016-2021 - 5 years (while managing a pandemic )
fourth trillion : 2021-2025(?) - 4 years (while two wars effecting trade)

61-->8-->5-->4(?)
Unfortunately, the Wuhan virus played a spoilsport. The trajectory would look different otherwise,

61 --> 8 --> 4 --> 3 --> 2(?)

We got pushed back by a cycle. Think KV Subramanian has talked about this before.

Notably, KVS does not see any long term impact (of the pandemic) on the Indian economy.
 

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