Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[randombully]

IMO 40-50 is too generous, I think thats the range for very low speed subsonic drone type targets when missile is lobbed high and then glides down. Cause Astra MK1 range at low altitudes was given as 12km against fighters, against incoming ffast missiles (high subsonic) that could be read as 20-25km ish.

Was talking about "max" range of 40-50km.

And the 12km range sounds too low.
Even near sea level and against a running away(egress) fighter jet(supersonic with afterburner) it should be 25-30km distance between the carrier and target for the missile to have good kill probability.

And if the target(fighter, missile) is coming towards(ingress) the missile carrier, then the effective range increases a lot.
Even near sea level 40-50km can be expected.



Now you can also launch the missile way past it's effective range, once you get a firing solution, just to force the opponent fighter jet into defending.

So a max range of 50km and given antiship missiles will be coming towards you, the effective max range of 30-50km is realistic.
Remember once this vlsrsam is launched to take down the antiship missiles, and when it actually takes down the antiship missile, the anti ship missile would have moved closer by few kilometers to even 20+km If it's a mach2+ anti ship missile.


So if it's launched When the anti ship missile is at lets say 60km from the ship it can intercept it at 35-55km away from ship, depending on the speed of anti ship missile.

Unlike fighter jets that can run away from you, anti ship missile will come towards you.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Remember once this vlsrsam is launched to take down the antiship missiles, and when it actually takes down the antiship missile, the anti ship missile would have moved closer by few kilometers to even 20+km If it's a mach2+ anti ship missile.


So if it's launched When the anti ship missile is at lets say 60km from the ship it can intercept it at 35-55km away from ship, depending on the type of anti ship missile.

Unlike fighter jets that can run away from you, anti ship missile will come towards you.

I know this, thats why I moved the range figure up (made for fighter that can actively defend) to 20-25km.

Although IDK where I remember it being 12 km, cant find the source now.

There is a source for range being 20 km against fighters in head on scenario (https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/Astra-missile-test-fired-successfully/article12457627.ece)

Im guessing the range for high subsonic targets would not be much different. Only case is if a much lower velocity, high lob trajectory is picked, for very slow targets.

 

[randombully]

I know this, thats why I moved the range figure up (made for fighter that can actively defend) to 20-25km.

Although IDK where I remember it being 12 km, cant find the source now.

There is a source for range being 20 km against fighters in head on scenario (https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/Astra-missile-test-fired-successfully/article12457627.ece)

Im guessing the range for high subsonic targets would not be much different. Only case is if a much lower velocity, high lob trajectory is picked, for very slow targets.

20km only makes sense if the fighter jet running away from you.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

20km only makes sense if the fighter jet running away from you.

I think the unclassified ranges -

50k feet alt - 110 km
20k feet alt - 44 km
0ft alt - 21km

Which sounds reasonable tbf.

 

[randombully]

I think the unclassified ranges -

50k feet alt - 110 km
20k feet alt - 44 km
0ft alt - 21km

Which sounds reasonable tbf.

Just searched about the ground varient of aim 120c( max range 105km) called National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System (NASAMS):- max listed range 30km.

So your estimate does seem closer.

 

[FalconSlayers]

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1907327432446599486