Indian Navy Developments & Discussions (34 Viewers)

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THe DPSUs literally contract out entire ships which then sail to their facilities for "outfitting" . This shielding of DPSU shipyards is completely political they exist off "nominations".

Yes, otherwise they would be without orders and workers would lose their Gormint jaabs.
Nibbas live off coastguard and Navy orders mainly.

It's why I said L&T must commercial maxxx, kyunki in DPSUs se nahi ho payega, even Air India was privatized and it is almost sem2sem as how it was under ebil govt management.

 

[karn]

Yes, otherwise they would be without orders and workers would lose their Gormint jaabs.
Nibbas live off coastguard and Navy orders mainly.

It's why I said L&T must commercial maxxx, kyunki in DPSUs se nahi ho payega, even Air India was privatized and it is almost sem2sem as how it was under ebil govt management.

Yeah L&T should get into the commercial game. But think of it this way MDL was already stretched by the order of 4 17As they had to do jugaard to get the 4th ship into production. When the IN's orders start touching double digits in the next decade it is inconceivable that private sector does not get into the primary combatant game for both subs and surface ships. Because you know govmint can never have the baboon run shipyards on the backfoot and let the best contractor win. It will have to be when they straight up run out of capacity.

 

[shade2]

Yeah L&T should get into the commercial game. But think of it this way MDL was already stretched by the order of 4 17As they had to do jugaard to get the 4th ship into production. When the IN's orders start touching double digits in the next decade it is inconceivable that private sector does not get into the primary combatant game for both subs and surface ships. Because you know govmint can never have the baboon run shipyards on the backfoot and let the best contractor win. It will have to be when they straight up run out of capacity.

When we reach that level of orders i'm sure L&T will be given it's due.

For now they seem to be trying to boost the capacity of DPSU shipyards.

GSL gets 2x Talwars
HSL gets 2x Nistar, 5x HSL( 3x, rest given to L&T ) and kangs about getting LPD orders also
CSL gets 8x ASWSWC and 6x NGMV, when Vikrant repeat order or other carrier comes they'll get that too.

It is said the NGC order will also be gifted to L&T as L2, 5 will be built by GRSE that much is confirmed.

I have no idea what exactly is the cause of this order-daan to these DPSUs, it could be because of the new commercial shipbuilding push or they plan to give the Admirals a budget increase so the usual MDL-GRSE Dynamic Duo won't be enough to build all the ships.

 

[Azaad]

Its the case of the russians looking at the capabilities of the DPSU shipyards and nopeing out of there.
I disagree with you here, private shipyards that have demonstrated their competence should not be shunted out, L&T is pretty much the single vendor for nuke subs going forward they should be in the running for diesel electric subs as well .

It's not a question of competence at all but more to do with sarkari ownership of those shipyards. MoD is bound by the rule book to ensure DPSUs are given first priority . If they don't , they have the rule book thrown at them.

So unless the system is reformed there's not much MoD can do about it . And the system won't be reformed for our Raksha Mantri is a place holder warming his seat & Leaderji thinks defence preparedness is all about visiting jawans on the frontlines for Diwali , meditation & photo ops.

In short this government is not serious about defence at all, they're merely going about their routine work. Hence L&T will keep getting step motherly treatment.

 

[karn]

HSL gets 2x Nistar, 5x HSL( 3x, rest given to L&T ) and kangs about getting LPD orders also

Agreed .. but what's this.