Indian Navy Developments & Discussions (5 Viewers)

[shade2]

CSL should lead the work for LHD project. They have experience in building flight deck for Vikrant, internal space for fighter service. They may be stuck with well deck design, but they get some consultancy from Italy, Spain. Come on they should copy some of the current designs.

Last update was the the Spanish x L&T and French x HSL.

Interestingly the HSL twitter page kangz over their "big space" to built LHD because they can build the 45k ton fleet support tanker.

besides in the old RPF the deck space was limited to 199m.
Only Mistral fits that.

ofc for all you know the Admirols do be wanting to build a Trieste like 45k ton monster, since there hasn't been an update since 2022 over the LHD project aside from the news about IEFP

 

[randombully]

ofc for all you know the Admirols do be wanting to build a Trieste like 45k ton monster, since there hasn't been an update since 2022 over the LHD project aside from the news about IEFP

An LHD with built in small catobar to launch stealth drones/CCA's( also can be used to launch ISR and even awacs drones) should be on the minds of admirals.
Or a ski jump.

 

[shade2]

An LHD with built in small catobar to launch stealth drones/CCA's( also can be used to launch ISR and even awacs drones) should be on the minds of admirals.
Or a ski jump.

GA is offering such mini EMALS catapults

General Atomics Launches New Drone Catapult System For Warships

General Atomics is not just offering a new drone catapult, but dramatically expanding airpower from the sea.

simpleflying.com

Drones on LHDs is the future, absolutely complementary for amphibious assaults, perhaps because of the mini-emals the Admirals are running after IEFP?

 

[randombully]

GA is offering such mini EMALS catapults

General Atomics Launches New Drone Catapult System For Warships

General Atomics is not just offering a new drone catapult, but dramatically expanding airpower from the sea.

simpleflying.com

Drones on LHDs is the future, absolutely complementary for amphibious assaults, perhaps because of the mini-emals the Admirals are running after IEFP?

Hmm, if we use this on our LHD's we can also add a small catobar to vikrant class aircraft carrier/carriers.
A small catobar on landing strip at the end for cca's &,drones. Another small catobar at the start/beginning of longer takeoff position, that small catobar will give more initial acceleration, and jets needs only 20-30% more speed than pure ski jump for max payload, so small catobar+ ski jump= full fuel+max payload of rafale m's.
And naval rafales are already built for catapult takeoff stresses, plus our small catobar+ skim jump combo will put lot less stress on both pilot and airframe than full Size pure catobar.
Small catapult also won't take much space inside vikrant, and won't require as much energy to operate, infact will it only require 20-25% of the energy a full size pure catapult takeoff will require, so providing power won't be a problem, it will only be there to give extra 30% boost over pure ski jump.






Well, my fantasy ends here

 

[FalconSlayers]

Price negotiations for atleast additional 3 Scorpenes are done.
File is literally being sat over by MoD babooze or Leaderji himself.

Those are not the same Scorpenes we bought earlier.

"The new submarines will be able to carry more than twice the weapon load of their predecessors and are designed to accommodate additional weapons in the future—provided they fit existing weapon tubes."

View: https://x.com/sneheshphilip/status/1942909626824929596…




Most likely this one

 

[FalconSlayers]

View: https://x.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1943162882004521052



MoD baboons are truly a joke, requirement has been existing since 2016, and they sat on their azz to order them expecting the prices will remain constant, they did the same for Apaches, MRFA, Chinooks and what not. Modi being the american dalla he is ain't funding indigenous platforms either. At least start with RTA-90 then go for bigger aircraft so that you can modify them for such ops on your own. Entire bureaucracy is full of sold out jokers.

 

[liberalredditor]

View: https://x.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1943162882004521052



MoD baboons are truly a joke, requirement has been existing since 2016, and they sat on their azz to order them expecting the prices will remain constant, they did the same for Apaches, MRFA, Chinooks and what not. Modi being the american dalla he is ain't funding indigenous platforms either. At least start with RTA-90 then go for bigger aircraft so that you can modify them for such ops on your own. Entire bureaucracy is full of sold out jokers.
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Csir nal babu demanded 2 billion usd for full design and development and then prototype of rta70/90. Dont know why they are sitting on the file still. Saras mk2 is also decades away.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Csir nal babu demanded 2 billion usd for full design and development and then prototype of rta70/90. Dont know why they are sitting on the file still. Saras mk2 is also decades away.

Entire cabinet is compromised, for all the laser-eye edits IT Cell makes, these clowns have no loyalty for this country. Their kids are already settled abroad.

Navy’s requirement was for 10 additional P-8I. However, the MoD decided to reduce the number to 6. Although the DAC granted AoN, the proposal did not receive final clearance from the CCS. This situation is not the Navy’s fault. The responsibility for this decision lies squarely with the MoD (Ninda Turtle). And P8 Poseidon production is closing in a few years, won't be surprised if these retards deliver another masterstroke.

 

[Binayak95]

everything is rigged, burgerica supports chongs


View: https://x.com/ShiroBarks/status/1941443112116813970#m

Oh dude, this ships are ancient by today's standards. Chini acquired LM2500 back in Deng Xiaopings days when even India was like China ke tarah dost nahi kidhar.

 

[snakeeyes07]

Entire cabinet is compromised, for all the laser-eye edits IT Cell makes, these clowns have no loyalty for this country. Their kids are already settled abroad.

Navy’s requirement was for 10 additional P-8I. However, the MoD decided to reduce the number to 6. Although the DAC granted AoN, the proposal did not receive final clearance from the CCS. This situation is not the Navy’s fault. The responsibility for this decision lies squarely with the MoD (Ninda Turtle). And P8 Poseidon production is closing in a few years, won't be surprised if these retards deliver another masterstroke.

If they delay Scorpene deal signing then it may also face a similar price escalation in addition to possible loss of domestic capability/talent.

 

[Nishaanbaaz]

An LHD with built in small catobar to launch stealth drones/CCA's( also can be used to launch ISR and even awacs drones) should be on the minds of admirals.
Or a ski jump.

A full blown expeditionary Marine Corps for coastal & island contingencies in IOR with LHD's/LPD's (and maybe even VTOL fighters - if possible) should also be on their minds, even if it's a more long term plan.

 

[shade2]

View: https://x.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1943162882004521052



MoD baboons are truly a joke, requirement has been existing since 2016, and they sat on their azz to order them expecting the prices will remain constant, they did the same for Apaches, MRFA, Chinooks and what not. Modi being the american dalla he is ain't funding indigenous platforms either. At least start with RTA-90 then go for bigger aircraft so that you can modify them for such ops on your own. Entire bureaucracy is full of sold out jokers.
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Entire cabinet is compromised, for all the laser-eye edits IT Cell makes, these clowns have no loyalty for this country. Their kids are already settled abroad.

Navy’s requirement was for 10 additional P-8I. However, the MoD decided to reduce the number to 6. Although the DAC granted AoN, the proposal did not receive final clearance from the CCS. This situation is not the Navy’s fault. The responsibility for this decision lies squarely with the MoD (Ninda Turtle). And P8 Poseidon production is closing in a few years, won't be surprised if these retards deliver another masterstroke.

You really think the dhoti-baboon group give a shit about Admirol's MPA requirements?

You think that's why they are buying 5-6x P8I now after sitting on it's file for only God knows how many years?



It's for Jaziya, they saw it was a pending request and pulled it out of the tower of files which MoD baboos sit upon.

Now aside from some 9 years worth of inflation, i'm sure an addtional India tax will be applied to the amount to be "fair" to America since "Indians are ripping us off".


I really hope for this jaziya they don't sacrific the Scorpene order or P17B CCS clearance, Jaziya will be paid out of Navy budget ofc

 

[Adibot]

You really think the dhoti-baboon group give a shit about Admirol's MPA requirements?

You think that's why they are buying 5-6x P8I now after sitting on it's file for only God knows how many years?

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It's for Jaziya, they saw it was a pending request and pulled it out of the tower of files which MoD baboos sit upon.

Now aside from some 9 years worth of inflation, i'm sure an addtional India tax will be applied to the amount to be "fair" to America since "Indians are ripping us off".


I really hope for this jaziya they don't sacrific the Scorpene order or P17B CCS clearance, Jaziya will be paid out of Navy budget ofc

Fuck babus
They have made sure India never becomes an actual power to take on big boys

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Hmm, if we use this on our LHD's we can also add a small catobar to vikrant class aircraft carrier/carriers.
A small catobar on landing strip at the end for cca's &,drones. Another small catobar at the start/beginning of longer takeoff position, that small catobar will give more initial acceleration, and jets needs only 20-30% more speed than pure ski jump for max payload, so small catobar+ ski jump= full fuel+max payload of rafale m's.
And naval rafales are already built for catapult takeoff stresses, plus our small catobar+ skim jump combo will put lot less stress on both pilot and airframe than full Size pure catobar.
Small catapult also won't take much space inside vikrant, and won't require as much energy to operate, infact will it only require 20-25% of the energy a full size pure catapult takeoff will require, so providing power won't be a problem, it will only be there to give extra 30% boost over pure ski jump.






Well, my fantasy ends here

If you are going through the trouble of digging up Vikrant's deck to install a catapult or two, might as make it full size. Remove the slope, and extend an angled flight deck for simultaneous launch of 2 fighters.

 

[shade2]

Those are not the same Scorpenes we bought earlier.





View: https://x.com/sneheshphilip/status/1942909626824929596…




Most likely this one
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TKMS, the P75I German submarine merchant is also working on LiB tech in collab with a french company

TKMS wants to switch to lithium-ion batteries using French technology

The German naval and submarine designer TKMS is today the undisputed market leader in conventionally powered submarines.

meta-defense.fr

 

[randombully]

If you are going through the trouble of digging up Vikrant's deck to install a catapult or two, might as make it full size. Remove the slope, and extend an angled flight deck for simultaneous launch of 2 fighters.
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Well then, This will be lot more expensive, lot more Harder to do, lot more changes to vikrant, lot more time taking, lot more power needed, extra modifications for power, lot more space taking, useful space taking.


My proposal is lot more doable, possible, affordable, lot less changes to vikrant's structure can be done during deep matinence time if development of systems starts before.

To further help you understand
Modifying it for full size catapult will be equivalent of the modifications ins Vikramaditya went through to become a stobar carrier from Baku class aircraft carrying cruiser.
Basically a entirely new ship.



My proposal is equivalent(as in effort needed) to the modifications japanese Kaga class went through.

 

[shade2]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2ad54JxYiE

The brown color on the ship is naturally occurring rust or some kind of coating, or artificial iron oxide layer?

 

[KAB7777]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2ad54JxYiE

The brown color on the ship is naturally occurring rust or some kind of coating, or artificial iron oxide layer?

Rust, it will be painted and buffed out again prior to delivery/commissioning. It’s honestly normal considering it isn’t even painted fully with multiple layers paint.

 

[shade2]

Rust, it will be painted and buffed out again prior to delivery/commissioning. It’s honestly normal considering it isn’t even painted fully with multiple layers.

Do they rust it on purpose, there is uniform rust like coloring on the aft portions of the ship, that's what i'm asking, the bow and all are partially painted and that looks like obvious rust.

It looks like a coating for me, it could literally be iron oxide or something else.
I've even seen under construction foreign ships like this.

 

[randombully]

Do they rust it on purpose, there is uniform rust like coloring on the aft portions of the ship, that's what i'm asking, the bow and all are partially painted and that looks like obvious rust.

It looks like a coating for me, it could literally be iron oxide or something else.
I've even seen under construction foreign ships like this.

Red colour is the coating.
International 300 Red epoxy coat.
Common base coat for ships.

The brown bits is rust.