Indian Politics and Democracy

[Suryavanshi]

Birthrates decline when the women are educated with progressive BS.

Good I guess you have upper caste women to blame for it.
But women do have higher fertility rate in Israel.
God's chosen people indeed, guess the brahmins need to chant more mantra to compel their partners to give them more kids. God isn't favoring Brahmins as much as jews.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Kuch bhi

Most regulars here are from DFI, everyone knows you're bhumihar

Bhumihars are bruhmins bruh.
Unless the bruhmins here want to do a self goal and claim we are not.
One more Masterstroke from the bruhmins.

 

[Gurmeet]

again, it has been explained like a million times, BJP and congi freebies are different ? congi freebies are stuff like all wonen get x amount as opposed to BJP which selects very specific criteria like total income of household, martial status, location, age etc.

Which GC is thinking all the time about caste anyways ? I have never met such GCs. People have blown this shit out of proportion.

Also people overestimate the impact of caste census. Likh ka le lo if tommorow someone's remove some percentage of reservation it will be an hung assembly not a sweep that peoplevtend to believe

 

[Numero]

Indian opposition is on the payroll of our enemies. They will never support anything positive.

This move by government and focus on the media is clearly to divert attention from the terrorist attack to caste census before elections.

I'm not saying nothing will happen but it doesn't look good.


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There are loads of factors at play. It's not black n white & BJP isn't Congress. They keep everything in mind & strategize in the long term. There's something cooking.
The better part is that those who were supporting caste census are opposing it now


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[Nicky]

again, it has been explained like a million times, BJP and congi freebies are different ? congi freebies are stuff like all wonen get x amount as opposed to BJP which selects very specific criteria like total income of household, martial status, location, age etc.

Which GC is thinking all the time about caste anyways ? I have never met such GCs. People have blown this shit out of proportion.

It's not specific, it's so broad that it ends up applying to most of their voter base.

Reservation demands arose in the '70s, in the '80s and in the '90s because we were an economic basket case, the private sector was virtually non existent and the path to upward evonomic mobility did not exist. So parties needed something to rally their voters.

Here is a counter question for you. Why do you think reservations have not breached the 50% ceiling? At least yet? Why did the Mandal drama stopped in the '90s?

Reservations is a great tool for politicans. Why would they let it go?

Has it not breached 50% effectively? Mandal never really stopped, it's rebranded.

BJP is yet another reservation party.

 

[shade2]

Good I guess you have upper caste women to blame for it.
But women do have higher fertility rate in Israel.
God's chosen people indeed, guess the brahmins need to chant more mantra to compel their partners to give them more kids. God isn't favoring Brahmins as much as jews.

The heavy lifting is done by Jewish Orthodox men and women there with #PhoolSapport from the sarkar there
They produce more little kikes for religious reasons.

These couples basically produce enough to make up for the shortfall their zaat-bhois in Tel Aviv don't produce, since they are busy in satrangi degeneracy, abortions and birth control.

Basically Israel has 2 kinds of kikes, one are these ultra religious Orthodox Jooz with one couple producing 6-8 little moshes but no much economic value.
The other is your LGTVHD Feminist Tel Aviv gandu or randi who makes bank by working in high tech etc but is nalla at producing kids for the tribe.

TLDR bamans or any other needs to establish a little cult where one of the objectives is a lot of "tuto nahao puto falo"

 

[Nicky]

There are loads of factors at play. It's not black n white & BJP isn't Congress. They keep everything in mind & strategize in the long term. There's something cooking.
The better part is that those who were supporting caste census are opposing it now


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Modi has always been pro-reservation.

No one knows anything about long term strategy or planning, so unless real actions happen it's all copium.

They aren't against caste census, they just don't want BJP to benefit politically.

As for BJP, earlier caste census was naxal ideology and anti-India, what happened?

 

[Nicky]

Good I guess you have upper caste women to blame for it.
But women do have higher fertility rate in Israel.
God's chosen people indeed, guess the brahmins need to chant more mantra to compel their partners to give them more kids. God isn't favoring Brahmins as much as jews.

Yes, they are to blame. They focus on their career rather than family.

Israel is an exception as Jews realize the existential threat they face unlike Hindus.

 

[johny_baba]

Kuch bhi

Most regulars here are from DFI, everyone knows you're bhumihar

since you're a catholic you might not know it,

but, some hindu scriptures (manu smriti, maybe? not sure this time) debarred brahmins from doing kheti as profession (personal consumption ke liye anaaj ugaanaa is allowed but not recommended, since a brahmin is expected to go around asking alms etc , doing kheti karm to earn sustenance is shunned, basically)
now this brahmins who adopted kheti as profession in naarth india side mostly yupi bihar got expelled from jaati by pundits of that time, made this block 'bhumihar' (bhumi-land, har-conquering sense) and went rather full gear and became landowning jameendaari caste eventually

toh tabse yeh jhagda chalta aaya hai ki bhumihar brahmin hai ki nahi - as in, most brahmins have done far worse adharmic things than just kheti so if they're still brahmins why aren't bhumihars?

 

[Suryavanshi]

Israel is an exception as Jews realize the existential threat they face unlike Hindus.

See you get the point there is no point crying hoarse.
The herd must realize that they are being preyd upon.

 

[Nicky]

See you get the point there is no point crying hoarse.
The herd must realize that they are being preyd upon.

I agree, the prey has to wake up. I don't have high hopes though.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

It's not specific, it's so broad that it ends up applying to most of their voter base.



Reservations is a great tool for politicans. Why would they let it go?

Has it not breached 50% effectively? Mandal never really stopped, it's rebranded.

BJP is yet another reservation party.

Mandal did absolutely stopped being a factor outside Hindi belt, it was never a factor in places like TN , pot 2000 Karnataka , Kerala , Odisha, Bengal. our new cycles and political theories heavily revolve around Hindi belt and not even contemporary Hindi belt but Hindi belt of like 2000s, because that's when most of the political gurus were active on the ground instead of their offices.

Most parties haven't been reservation parties funnily enough, congress itself didn't do much with reservation despite being in power for 10 years with reservation pasand regional parties. congress has taken in hard left turn after 2020s, they are in some cases more left than lefty parties like CPIM,CPM which is actually limiting their potential with a lot of urbanist liberal voters, who like western liberal ideas but the shitlib policies that congress is trying to push.

 

[Nicky]

Mandal did absolutely stopped being a factor outside Hindi belt, it was never a factor in places like TN , pot 2000 Karnataka , Kerala , Odisha, Bengal. our new cycles and political theories heavily revolve around Hindi belt and not never contemporary Hindi belt but Hindi belt of like 2000s, because that's when most of the political gurus were active on the ground instead of their offices.

Most parties haven't been reservation parties funnily enough, congress itself didn't do much with reservation despite being in power for 10 years with reservation pasand regional parties. congress has taken in hard left turn after 2020s, they are in some cases more left than lefty parties like CPIM,CPM which is actually limiting their potential with a lot of urbanist liberal voters, who like western liberal ideas but the shitlib policies that congress is trying to push.

Mandal was always primarily aimed at the Hindi belt. The other states are already divided by language, they needed something to divide the Hindi states.

Every party in Hindi belt is a caste based party. Congi will use this to destroy the country, well BJP will too.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

Mandal was always primarily aimed at the Hindi belt. The other states are already divided by language, they needed something to divide the Hindi states.

Every party in Hindi belt is a caste based party. Congi will use this to destroy the country, well BJP will too.

not the whole "congi bjp sem2sem" again

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

I might have to avoid twitter or even this forum for a week or so. Can't really have productive discussion with people going sentimental.

 

[laxman09]

Baba ji one easier solution is having more kids.
Why not take matter in own hands and live by the stament "demographic is destiny".
Increase vote increase control.
Why go through superficial hooplahoop of allying with Muslims who themselves live by this formula.
Muslims were 9% of Indian population during 1957 and now they are 18%.
Double the previous number, are bruhmin limpdick cucks in this regards?

This is an exact parallel of Wignat situation. Won't have kids, "why are we getting replaced?".

Want more clout? Have more kids.

There is no if and but here.

Q to all memberaan who have SHQs. Hindu wimmens are totally in log-kya-kahenge mode. When they see that all of their fraands from school/college are happy with one child onlee, the idea of having kiddo #2 or #3 is so chi-chi for the wimmens. Many urban wimmens think having 2+ kids is dehaati (or, as I've been told "only greens do that").

How have you gotten around this fundamental issue? Pliss to edukate.

 

[Nicky]

not the whole "congi bjp sem2sem" again

You are reading what you wish to. They aren't exactly the same, but there are too many similarities for comfort.

Now that Modi has agreed to caste census after calling people asking for it as naxals, how is BJP different in this regard?

If caste census will destroy India when the opposition does it, why will the result be different when. BJP does it?

 

[Numero]

Modi has always been pro-reservation.

No one knows anything about long term strategy or planning, so unless real actions happen it's all copium.

They aren't against caste census, they just don't want BJP to benefit politically.

As for BJP, earlier caste census was naxal ideology and anti-India, what happened?

They wanted to make caste census for their own political goal as well. So them now opposing BJP is very laughable.
BJP has put naxals on deathbed which they could've milked for decades like Congress did, same goes for the 370 abrogation.
BJP doesn't do anything without a purpose. They think beyond petty politics & self goals. I ain't saying that sometimes they don't have exploitation in mind but they're balanced most of the time.
Yes it's anti India. Whole thing needs to be abolished. Wanted to see how they play it out.
I would trust the BJP more than the third grade oppositions any day.

 

[crazywithmath]

Reservations is a great tool for politicans. Why would they let it go?

The same asshole politicians are heavily heavily invested across a number of companies. Why would they kill the golden goose by introducing reservations in the private sector?

Has it not breached 50% effectively? Mandal never really stopped, it's rebranded.

Has it? Where exactly? Only TN was allowed an exemption through the 9th schedule. And even that happened in the Mandal era.

 

[Nicky]

They wanted to make caste census for their own political goal as well. So them now opposing BJP is very laughable.
BJP has put naxals on deathbed which they could've milked for decades like Congress did, same goes for the 370 abrogation.
BJP doesn't do anything without a purpose. They think beyond petty politics & self goals. I ain't saying that sometimes they don't have exploitation in mind but they're balanced most of the time.
Yes it's anti India. Whole thing needs to be abolished. Wanted to see how they play it out.
I would trust the BJP more than the third grade oppositions any day.

I am not saying the BJP hasn't done well or it isn't much better than any alternative. The point is with regards to reservation, the BJP is no different.

Why did they make SC/ST act more stringent when the SC had struck the draconian measure down. They are as anti GC as Congi, at the very least.