Indian Politics and Democracy

[crazywithmath]

Nope. Nothing as such. Extrapolating from the tweets I've linked there .

But why did the BJP pull this rabbit out of the hat when the mood of the nation is quite different post-Pahalgam? Enquiries reveal the decision was in the works ever since Modi 3.0 was sworn in.

Sometime in September 2024, just after the NDA government at the Centre completed 100 days in power, prominent leaders of the BJP who were part of governments in different states were informed that the leadership was contemplating such a decision. It showed that the BJP realised that while the politics of Kamandal had almost run its course with the completion of the Ram temple in Ayodhya, the politics of Mandal still had some steam left in it. They realised that while the decision of the Congress to embrace reservations openly would result in significant political adjustments south of the Vindhyas, it could result in a far more potent tectonic shift in political power in the Hindi heartland. If the BJP, which has a sizeable number of OBC leaders in its mix, had to take the Congress party's social engineering experiment head on, it had no option but to effect a hostile takeover of the Congress template. Also, while the caste survey pitch did not strike a chord with the electorate for the Congress in Haryana, Delhi and Maharashtra during the assembly elections, the BJP's decision shows that it suspects Bihar and Uttar Pradesh, later in 2027, could be a different kettle of fish where caste could more decisively decide the cast of the vote.

BJP’s hostile takeover of Rahul’s caste census card signals a new political pitch

Those expecting a surgical strike on Pakistan instead got a decision that was projected as a surgical strike on the Congress that has been at the forefront demanding a caste census.

www.indiatoday.in

Now, BJP allies to focus on recognition for sub-groups | Lucknow News - The Times of India

LUCKNOW: A day after the Centre announced the inclusion of caste enumeration in the forthcoming census exercise, the political spotlight on Thursday s.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Seems our speculations were spot on - think we should continue to take bhajipao wallahs at face value. Do not see them taking any drastic action anytime soon.

Also, in all probability, some kinetic action against pakroaches is on the cards.

@ezsasa

 

[SKC]

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[ezsasa]

BJP’s hostile takeover of Rahul’s caste census card signals a new political pitch

Those expecting a surgical strike on Pakistan instead got a decision that was projected as a surgical strike on the Congress that has been at the forefront demanding a caste census.

www.indiatoday.in

Now, BJP allies to focus on recognition for sub-groups | Lucknow News - The Times of India

LUCKNOW: A day after the Centre announced the inclusion of caste enumeration in the forthcoming census exercise, the political spotlight on Thursday s.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Seems our speculations were spot on - think we should continue to take bhajipao wallahs at face value.

Also, in all probability, some kinetic action against pakroaches is on the cards.

@ezsasa

if only su swamy hindutvawadi fanboys weren't so obsessed about presuming what they think they know about BJP is all there is to BJP, and had the open mindedness to observe what was happening without prejudice, they too would have seen this coming.

 

[shade2]

BJP’s hostile takeover of Rahul’s caste census card signals a new political pitch

Those expecting a surgical strike on Pakistan instead got a decision that was projected as a surgical strike on the Congress that has been at the forefront demanding a caste census.

www.indiatoday.in

Now, BJP allies to focus on recognition for sub-groups | Lucknow News - The Times of India

LUCKNOW: A day after the Centre announced the inclusion of caste enumeration in the forthcoming census exercise, the political spotlight on Thursday s.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Seems our speculations were spot on - think we should continue to take bhajipao wallahs at face value. Do not see them taking any drastic action anytime soon.

Also, in all probability, some kinetic action against pakroaches is on the cards.

@ezsasa

What is the likelihood that this is a slippery slope, considering their scheme now is to steal whatever congress puts out like revdi and now caste to win elections, chorgress will obviously go even deeper down the JAUH rabbit hole promising something even more outrageous

 

[crazywithmath]

if only su swamy hindutvawadi fanboys weren't so obsessed about presuming what they think they know about BJP is all there is to BJP, and had the open mindedness to observe what was happening without prejudice, they too would have seen this coming.

Caste census BJP's bid to stop erosion of broader Hindu unity | India News - The Times of India

India News: The Indian government's decision to include caste enumeration in the upcoming census aims to consolidate Hindu unity and counter attempts to divide th

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

From the article;

1. Bhajipaowallahs wanted to seize Congressi talking points.

2. They monitored those state level 'caste surveys' closely and saw nothing meaningful come out of it. So going with the flow.

3. Sangh (and the BJP too?) does not want 'overt politicization' of the issue. Final decision taken after Ji-Bhagwat meets.

Looks like a lollipop to me.

 

[truthsoldier]

These bhosdapillar congressi chad Hondu IT celliyas are having a field day - look how mamy of them are getting quoted by virat Hondutvabadi members of this forum. Congressis managed to create and nurture this bhosdapillar ecosystem despite limited budget and series of electoral defeats while bhajipao kept relying on nuclear weapon grade clowns like Amit Malviya and Mr Sinha.



The very fact that the Arjun (aka Devanand Shenoy, congress leader) is being considered a virat hondutwavadi and taken seriously is proof enough of the filth these congressis have managed to infuse into mainstream non left discourse.

Those who idolize political personality, living in a delusion where everything is hunky dory feels comforting --sab changa si. But the moment their lords face even mild criticism, their blood pressure soars like a rocket. When confronted with clear statements from sitting ministers, they choose denial over truth even when it is staring in the face.
It's easy to discredit people by assigning labels/abuses, but far harder to confront the questions they raise.
Burying their heads in the sand won’t save them as the Blue republic looms if past is any guide.

 

[SKC]

How do BJP decide whom to facilitate?


View: https://x.com/shashank_ssj/status/1918276079367626779

 

[ezsasa]

Caste census BJP's bid to stop erosion of broader Hindu unity | India News - The Times of India

India News: The Indian government's decision to include caste enumeration in the upcoming census aims to consolidate Hindu unity and counter attempts to divide th

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

From the article;

1. Bhajipaowallahs wanted to seize Congressi talking points.

2. They monitored those state level 'caste surveys' closely and saw nothing meaningful come out of it. So going with the flow.

3. Sangh (and the BJP too?) does not want 'overt politicization' of the issue. Final decision takem after Ji-Bhagwat meets.

Looks like a lollipop to me.

unfortunate bit is, commies are more prepared for this than others with their "critical caste theory".
they are the ones who are giving ideas to pappus of various regional/socialist parties on revdis, bheem-meem and this one. some way needs to be found to bring all pappus away from commie influence, or else it would be a race to bottom irrespective of who is in power.

next commie advisors will give their pappu masters more of such ideas.

 

[crazywithmath]

What is the likelihood that this is a slippery slope, considering their scheme now is to steal whatever congress puts out like revdi and now caste to win elections, chorgress will obviously go even deeper down the JAUH rabbit hole promising something even more outrageous

Now, this is something we cannot really predict here at this juncture. But, the incumbent holds the upper hand because they get to execute stuff - the opposition can only 'promise'. Like you yourself wrote the otger day, congressi 'Nyay' was thoroughly ciuntered by BJP's JAM trinity+PM Kisan Samman Nidhi....

But if I were to go by recent trends;

1. Bhajipao ruled states continue to have excellent fiscal health (as a matter of fact, the states with lowest debt to GSDP ratios are almost exclusively BJP ruled) despite copying the revdi playbook of AAP etc - because those Bhajipao branded freebies are more targeted (ie, more PR than substance) and effectively cancelled out by fiscal consolidation elsewhere.

2. Congressi demand of OPS was countered by introducing some tweaks to the existing NPS. The fiscal took very little hit.

They are likely thinking of adopting a similar playbook this time too.

Think this is the new normal for bhajipao - they will copy whatever the congressis bring up, tweak it to their liking and make a grand deal out of it with targeted campaigning. Ji is more of a dhandhomaxxer turned status-quoist - he despises disruptions cuz they are bad for dhandho.

 

[notaname]

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[Azaad]

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How to mother phuck premier institutions of India! Formula no 786.

Alhamdulillah!

https://swarajyamag.com/ideas/have-our-iits-been-hijacked-by-their-social-science-departments

Frankly I was under the impression Zavaadekar the previous Minister in charge of education was a liability. He's been gone for more than 5 years now & yet we see this.

 

[Azaad]

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That Pardiwala is a certified chutiya. As it is bawas are crazy especially post 50 . This guy is living proof of it. He's in line to become the CJI in 2029 . If he continues like this, there's every likelihood he'd not make it if the BJP returns to power then . It'd lead to a furore & a stand off between the executive & the judiciary.

 

[crazywithmath]

https://swarajyamag.com/ideas/have-our-iits-been-hijacked-by-their-social-science-departments

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Frankly I was under the impression Zavaadekar the previous Minister in charge of education was a liability. He's been gone for more than 5 years now & yet we see this.

Like I have written time and time again, it was a mistake to introduce social science in the IITs. Ji did it to improve their global rankings.

 

[crazywithmath]

Those who idolize political personality, living in a delusion where everything is hunky dory feels comforting --sab changa si. But the moment their lords face even mild criticism, their blood pressure soars like a rocket. When confronted with clear statements from sitting ministers, they choose denial over truth even when it is staring in the face.
It's easy to discredit people by assigning labels/abuses, but far harder to confront the questions they raise.
Burying their heads in the sand won’t save them as the Blue republic looms if past is any guide.

Guys like Arjun (aka Devanad Shenoy, a fucking congress leader) have been thoroughly outed, doxxed and e-lynched by e-lashkars time and time again. You are using posts penned by the same congressi clowns who started this caste tamasha to begin with.

Your word salad will not hide the irony here.

 

[Knowitall]

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At this point why even act surprised. Sab 56 inch ki mauj leke chale jate hai aur kuch nahi. First they stuck down NJAC. Then they set the deadline and now this. Courts bhi izzat loot lenge hindu hriday samrat ki.

 

[Azaad]

At this point why even act surprised. Sab 56 inch ki mauj leke chale jate hai aur kuch nahi. First they stuck down NJAC. Then they set the deadline and now this. Courts bhi izzat loot lenge hindu hriday samrat ki.

Judicial over reach has been an issue since Indira Gandhi's era except back then they actually intervened to curb government excesses though on dubious grounds viz Basic Structure of the Constitution doctrine in the Keshavanand Bharati case.

Since the era of coalition politics beginning with V. P. Singh that over reach has grown alarmingly. This isn't a phenomenon restricted to any one political party in power. It has been consistent. And the reason for it is as simple as no political unity on the matter to push back against the judiciary .

At least read up more before shooting from the hip.

 

[Prasad]

At this point why even act surprised. Sab 56 inch ki mauj leke chale jate hai aur kuch nahi. First they stuck down NJAC. Then they set the deadline and now this. Courts bhi izzat loot lenge hindu hriday samrat ki.

At this point these folks are not even pretending.

 

[Azaad]

View: https://twitter.com/HindolSengupta/status/1918135004443369882?s=19

No clue how genuine the information is in this infograph.

 

[Knowitall]

Judicial over reach has been an issue since Indira Gandhi's era except back then they actually intervened to curb government excesses though on dubious grounds viz Basic Structure of the Constitution doctrine in the Keshavanand Bharati case.

Since the era of coalition politics beginning with V. P. Singh that over reach has grown alarmingly. This isn't a phenomenon restricted to any one political party in power. It has been consistent. And the reason for it is as simple as no political unity on the matter to push back against the judiciary .

At least read up more before shooting from the hip.

I know for a fact that its been an issue ever since. Members here have posted a lot of videos of pre Modi era where congress leaders often questioned the judges.

Matter of fact we have a video of esteemed jaitley ji talking about judicial overreach. My issue is exactly what you mentioned if we are to talk about post 2000 politics coalition govts are weak by nature and BJP had a solid 5 years post 2019 with a thumping majority to pass judicial reforms.

Matter of fact i will try to explain to you where my issues come from. If BJP was to lose in 2029 how many structural reforms and RW ecosystems across the bureaucracy judiciary economy and military are we looking at.

 

[Azaad]

I know for a fact that its been an issue ever since. Members here have posted a lot of videos of pre Modi era where congress leaders often questioned the judges.

Matter of fact we have a video of esteemed jaitley ji talking about judicial overreach. My issue is exactly what you mentioned if we are to talk about post 2000 politics coalition govts are weak by nature and BJP had a solid 5 years post 2019 with a thumping majority to pass judicial reforms.

Matter of fact i will try to explain to you where my issues come from. If BJP was to lose in 2029 how many structural reforms and RW ecosystems across the bureaucracy judiciary economy and military are we looking at.

So in your opinion, how do you propose the BJP solve the problem of judicial over reach or the NJAC ?