Indian Small Arms and Weapons

Arad Operator said:
Only in .32 bore afaik, 9mm comes under PB(prohibited bore)!
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Yea that ik also you can’t buy the Glock it’s prohibited that’s why this and the nanda arms 30bore pistol(sig clone) are the best one In my opinion
 
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Arad Operator said:
.32 bore glock is fcking 38-45 lacs, even it was legal I would've have bought a BP Safari storme with jammers:D
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That was before when you have to import it later they signed with an Indian seller then I was around 2-3-4 lakhs this is about Glock 21 gen 5 .45 acp
Glock 32 was 15 lakh not 38-45 (stil fkin expensive)
 
johny_baba said:
I actually wanted to write a lot on this the same day this post was made but due to some circumstances i could not,
so anyways, late but my response to this, based on all the observations so far; there are quite a lot of positives on this design of kalashnikov derivative from SSS D, some are quite obvious like
+ top rail on hinged top cover that's actually flush with top cover of the handguards,
+ SLR / INSAS inspired non-reciprocating charging handle on left side, around similar position on top cover
+ due to above, they could eliminate that charging handle slot on right side and facilitate ambidextrous fire selectors on both sides, seemingly thumb/finger operated and so,
+ removal of that iron sight block+gas tube retaining piece atop its front trunnion, and replacing it with something shorter, lesser in mass, that facilitated hinge for top cover and likely pin-based thing for (upper) handguards + gas tube -> now this one part is often underlooked in AK design because few people understand benefit of going this way; it essentially helps in shedding some mass off centre of the rifle, plus it allows for better design of top cover mounting than typical AK and also for better handguard design that could facilitate gas tube within it
+ milled receiver, milled top cover, tactical sling mounts, flip-up backup iron sights (as to make up space for optical sights as primary thing), side folding buttstock with AR buffer tube mount as to facilitate length adjustable AR buttstock there, new AR pattern flash hider, instead of going full retardo with 3-6-9 position rails on handguards they opted for giving sections of rails there rest allowing some space for gripping it with hands and if someone still wants to go full taktikool giving out M-LOK style slots there on 3-9 positions just in case
and so on,

now, with most of the positives mentioned, i'd like to question some choices here, you could count it as negatives
- that choice of fire selection modes...i mean...
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if they're attempting to make a modern AK derivative with focus at tactical-ness then giving it a configuration where semi-auto is on top (i.e. an active fire mode at topmost) while safe is down below is counterintuitive compared to what most assault/battle rifles have on theirs for fire selection...this is total opposite
even INSAS is more conventional, more intuitive, more 'natural' with fire selection when from top-to-bottom twist of fire selector it goes from Safe, to Semi-Auto (or 'Repetition' as per brit chronology 🤷‍♂️ legacy of SLR here) then when turned ~90 degree onwards it goes Burst (three-rounds, of course) - well mostly except going to 3RB but from Safe-to-Semi and vice versa it is.
They should have, in my opinion, opted for topmost position as Safe, then middle one as Semi, and bottom most as Full auto in ideal solution (something that is already done well on INSAS Excaliburs 🤷‍♂️ and those subsequent newer INSAS forks like Ughram Rifle, ARDE 5.56mm carbine and so on) - if not that then just printing AK's topmost Safe, middle one Auto and bottommost Semi was also okay...
but this one, so counterintuitive...
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As for the weird marking on selector it's simply because they don't even have the know-how of making a proper FCG and are simply using the exact same FCG of a vanilla Kalashnikov.

But in an effort to portray it as modern or ergonomic they got rid of the combination front selector - dustcover and instead extend a level ON THE SAME SELECTOR DRUM to the rear of the gun. And voila...you end up with one of the most wackiest selector design.
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Ayan Barat said:
As for the weird marking on selector it's simply because they don't even have the know-how of making a proper FCG and are simply using the exact same FCG of a vanilla Kalashnikov.

But in an effort to portray it as modern or ergonomic they got rid of the combination front selector - dustcover and instead extend a level ON THE SAME SELECTOR DRUM to the rear of the gun. And voila...you end up with one of the most wackiest selector design.
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your point is valid that by extending one can flip the fire modes on AK's fire selector; but criticism aside, the idea of extending the fire selector lever to other side isn't new either,
wayy back in 2016 when i joined the good ol' D F I , one of my very first on Ghaatak Assault Rifle = AK-ised INSAS, i mentioned about certain fire selector on this post here
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Ghatak Assault Rifle in Person ( Review )

Unexpected at best, Again... :) Was preparing to visit my friends at Delhi, When one of ours Senior member From DFI informed about a defense exhibition was going on at Delhi :cool3:, Though it was not a priority but I visited the exhibition, Where I spotted OFB stall and a black rifle, It has a...
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now the image host has died so it doesn't show the image but i easily found it back on internet, it was this, Kerbs Customs MK VII Ambi Enhanced Safety, which could 'in practice' be operated by both hands with such manipulations as shown in this pic here
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and if you'd compare it with your image, it's same idea but commercialised, so yeah...

BUT the thing with this aftermarket thing and what SSSD is doing on their AK,
- Kerbs one is meant for extending regular AK's fire selector which already was not easy to manipulate from trigger hand, while SSSD one is in-house developed solution that is kind of counterintuitive to idea of how most fire selector manipulations go on
- Kerbs one again uses knuckles or sides of fingers or thumb to mostly manipulate it upwards i.e. to put it on fire mode, now if you'd go to do same drill on SSSD one there are two fire modes and manipulating it to select one preferred mode with mostly knuckles and all itself is counterintuitive if a shooter's going to loose his grasp off the trigger anyway despite this thing is projected as a tactical rifle 🤷‍♂️
so yeah...
 
Mr.Evil said:
Yea that ik also you can’t buy the Glock it’s prohibited that’s why this and the nanda arms 30bore pistol(sig clone) are the best one In my opinion
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9mm and 38 special caliber are prohibited for civilian ownership. As a civilian if you have a license you can buy a Glock in 380 acp, 10mm or .45 cal
 
spindrift said:
9mm and 38 special caliber are prohibited for civilian ownership. As a civilian if you have a license you can buy a Glock in 380 acp, 10mm or .45 cal
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Didn’t they ban Glock completely pb or npb?
 
Mr.Evil said:
Looks like only Ghatak have them as of now would love to see infantry rocking these on 203
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Might have been Ghataks who put out the RFI and Upgraded their Aks like Para units did cause I have also only seen this upgrade with Ghataks for now
 
Noob said:
Might have been Ghataks who put out the RFI and Upgraded their Aks like Para units did cause I have also only seen this upgrade with Ghataks for now
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This whole unit purchase shit pisses me off so much just do one standard testing and standardise it
 
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