Indian Special Forces

Fuck this modern world.

Operators risk their lives every fucking day. Regardless of their country. They do operations that in territory the average person can’t even breathe in.

For them to be forced to spout a banner of some cheap hwore pop artist in a helmet is a fucking disgrace and dishonor to every single person in that picture.

On that pic i was about to say - Most Indians are devoid of humour and the banners would be lost on most.
 
I would only say this , with the present attitude.
We are sitting on a tickling time bomb that will consume all of of us lest a war breaks out . The one making the decisions and their kids (most of whom are settled abroad) will get away , the poor conscripts will get butchered in a meat grinder worse than Ukraine.


Don't wanna get myself in legal trouble pointing out the obvious, I am done with this shit .
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No negativity against Armed forces will be allowed.

Stick to the topic.
Who has been spreading negativity against Armed forces here ? Negativity of what sort ? Criticising them for their tactics, equipment, etc ? That is as far as I am concerned...sticking to the topic. I for one, cite all my things out here.

There are people who call out Maj Sahani for him not being like the jung-ho persona of an officer they have in their mind. The same people would have called Lt Gen PC Katoch out as well, whom I get to cite the most. Why don't they ? Because he's senior, doesnt come in too many podcasts and these haters are lazy ass buggers who dont want to pick up a book and read.

So, sticking to the topic means discussing the situation, usmei if the system is fucked, we criticize it. The reality is that it pings people like hellfire so much that their jai ho types are being criticised, so instead of attacking the logic they'll say "The use of demeaning language is not acceptable" You know what....okay from here on all I'll do is cite sources, present the facts as such and leave my own emotion out of it. Guess what ? Even then you guys will get butt hurt.
 
Honestly we are rr over the loss of men due to poor equipments and obsolete strategies. Within last two years we are loosing soldiers in a ambushes due to usage of unarmoured vehicles like stallion. We don't have an Mmg, hmg to fend off concentrated firing from militants. We did not deploy them even today where we lost few soldiers last week. Suddenly came an poor PR of aslv few months but last week it confirms it is to assuage people.

Secondly a lot of equipments were not even getting purchased by the army and it ends up geting orders from foreign countries. Obviously people started to question the procurement policy itself since for army there is always an ifs and but for an indigenous product, but boom for foreign products.

The fact Indian companies started to invest more in global markets than in India due to too much confusing signals from armed forces is a worry.

That IAF - Uber is basically the final nail. We don't even know whether Uber will save the data in India data centers
 
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John McPhee was easily the Iftikar Bhat of US Spec Ops, dude did solo missions disguised as an Afghan, what a guy, I love the way he talks....no crap.
Yep, really solid dude. I remember a quote from him, it's just one of those quotes that is so simple yet changes your life.

He says "I know I'm supposed to die, then why should I make my day miserable". Just complete the objective.

One badass dude.
 
Honestly we are rr over the loss of men due to poor equipments and obsolete strategies. Within last two years we are loosing soldiers in a ambushes due to usage of unarmoured vehicles like stallion. We don't have an Mmg, hmg to fend off concentrated firing from militants. We did not deploy them even today where we lost few soldiers last week. Suddenly came an poor PR of aslv few months but last week it confirms it is to assuage people.

Secondly a lot of equipments were not even getting purchased by the army and it ends up geting orders from foreign countries. Obviously people started to question the procurement policy itself since for army there is always an ifs and but for an indigenous product, but boom for foreign products.

The fact Indian companies started to invest more in global markets than in India due to too much confusing signals from armed forces is a worry.

That IAF - Uber is basically the final nail. We don't even know whether Uber will save the data in India data centers
absolutely this, but seems like over the past few years, the millitary is more concerned about it's public image as appeals to the masses than actual warfighting capability
 
Maybe you are too young to Remember Kargil. Back then too many of us used to say this should never happen again.

The way things are, it appears that the results would be even more humiliating when the dragon in our neighbourhood dares to knock. The bulk of our core is still a force stuck in the 1980s.
 
Okay but what constitutes negativity?
Would criticism of our Armed Forces be treated as negativity? Considering the state of the majority of the Indian Armed
Stick to the guidelines for this thread.
I hope it will help.

1. News and Updates.
2. Training.
3. Deployments.
4. Operations.
5. Weapons, Equipment and tactics.

6. New Procurements.
7. Budget.
8. Multi-Media.
9. KIAs, Casualties, Rehabilitation
10 Achievements
11 Issues and Solutions

Avoid 'vs' this and that.

Use other relevant threads to discuss their counterparts and contemporary Special forces from other countries.

Avoid giving real-time information on operations, deployments, Soldier IDs and their family information.

Avoid if possible (not enforced) preempting the next possible overt or covert action until not disclosed by media, government agencies and open sources.

Qualified Criticism based on facts and academic arguments is most welcome.

No personal jibes.
 
So you have caved to Hellfire.

Okay but what constitutes negativity?
Would criticism of our Armed Forces be treated as negativity? Considering the state of the majority of the Indian Armed Forces, the criticism won't be positive in most cases.

Jai Ho. See no Evil - Speak no Evil
Ya'll Nibbiars I strongly urges Members to restrain from using any kind of Verbal Language which can land in any kind of troubles, Constructive Critisem is always and will be welcomed on the Forum. And no one is denied of that right here.
 
Who has been spreading negativity against Armed forces here ? Negativity of what sort ? Criticising them for their tactics, equipment, etc ? That is as far as I am concerned...sticking to the topic. I for one, cite all my things out here.

There are people who call out Maj Sahani for him not being like the jung-ho persona of an officer they have in their mind. The same people would have called Lt Gen PC Katoch out as well, whom I get to cite the most. Why don't they ? Because he's senior, doesnt come in too many podcasts and these haters are lazy ass buggers who dont want to pick up a book and read.

So, sticking to the topic means discussing the situation, usmei if the system is fucked, we criticize it. The reality is that it pings people like hellfire so much that their jai ho types are being criticised, so instead of attacking the logic they'll say "The use of demeaning language is not acceptable" You know what....okay from here on all I'll do is cite sources, present the facts as such and leave my own emotion out of it. Guess what ? Even then you guys will get butt hurt.
I think people should stop comparing a third world country (India) to a First Workd superpower (USA). That’s the only thing i’d change.
 
I think people should stop comparing a third world country (India) to a First Workd superpower (USA). That’s the only thing i’d change.
No one bothered about that. They were bothered as how could the "bloody civilians" want the POGs to be held accountable.
 
Most people here belong to very well backgrounds and dont have to come here to gain any kind of sadistic pleasures which some people are insecure about.

In any organisation or system the people who raise voices or whistle blow are the only ones who are working for the system.

None of the guys here who criticise have degraded to the level of so called supporters who call people like Major Sahini names including your own Admins.

Most of you who have settled abroad and are Admins here dont even pay 1% of tax we pay and then tell us from your Phooran Country to shut the fuck up.

Bcoz your immigrant ass is protected by Gora SF with all the gadgets while we will have to rely on NSG to rescue us God forbid there is another 26/11.

And by the way how many of you taking offense have ever been to a matyred soldiers house?

We are bad coz we talk about better equipment for who…for me?

Or for my company like Olive planet which i dont own?

Its for the soldiers welfare.

I have no cure for the people who take offense if XYZ organisation is criticised because their relatives are there or they are generally psychopaths.
 
I think people should stop comparing a third world country (India) to a First Workd superpower (USA). That’s the only thing i’d change.
Please stop using this First world and Third world analogy to somehow hint at India's lower status in terms of economy and international relations.
These phrases "First World" and "Third World" were never meant to be associated with economic prosperity. And I for one refuse to accept that India is somehow less powerful or Indians are less fortunate on the world stage cause we're a "Third World" country.
In the context of Armed Forces, India is very well a force to be reckoned with. And we can be even stronger, better equipped, more technology driven (God knows we have the intellectual faculties for that in this nation) but the problem is the lack of intent or even naivety to some extent from the paper pushers.
 

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