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New UK Foreign Secretary in Delhi today on first visit, free trade deal in focus

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Labour Party Manifesto.
How this will translate into policy, we will have to wait and see.

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https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Change-Labour-Party-Manifesto-2024-large-print.pdf


interestingly, priyanka chaturvedi was also there in that panel at MSC, she handled it well.
the british guy david lammy is the current foreign secretary of UK.


View: https://youtu.be/R8uJLp8oT5o?t=2524
 
this is surprising considering the cold shoulder treatment GoI was getting from previous UK govt.
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UK Foreign Secretary had bilateral meetings with the Prime Minister, Minister of External Affairs and National Security Advisor of India, in New Delhi. Both sides welcomed the launch of the UK-India Technology Security Initiative (TSI), spearheaded and agreed upon by the National Security Advisors (NSAs) of both countries to expand collaboration in Critical and Emerging Technologies (CET) across priority sectors including Telecoms, Critical Minerals, Semiconductors, Artificial Intelligence, Quantum, Biotech and Advanced Materials.

The collaboration under TSI will include Government, Private Sector, Academia and R&D institutions. TSI builds upon the 2030 road map between the two countries and is a crucial step to strengthen the collaboration in Science and Technology domain.

TSI would be helpful for improving supply chain resilience and also for developing economically feasible and environmentally sustainable extraction technologies for identified critical minerals. The TSI framework will boost research, trade and investment flows between the UK and India in the domains of Semiconductors, Artificial Intelligence, Quantum, etc. The fields of genomics, precision medicine, cell and gene therapy, biotherapeutics, bio-manufacturing, bio-electronics, etc. will get an impetus. UK and India will collaborate in the field of next-generation telecommunication technologies and telecom providers, Start-ups and businesses will explore commercial opportunities in telecoms infrastructure.

https://x.com/ANI/status/1816160326683107424


Foreign Secretary meets Indian Prime Minister Modi and launches landmark Technology Security Initiative​


 

Looks like someone has some self awareness.
India can be tricky territory for Labour.

Foreign Secretary Robin Cook caused a storm by offering to mediate between India and Pakistan over Kashmir.

And the party led by Jeremy Corbyn angered even more here when it passed a motion calling for international intervention in the disputed region.
So it must have been with some trepidation that David Lammy arrived in a warm and damp New Delhi on Wednesday morning, a newly-minted foreign secretary stepping away for the first time from the more familiar turf of Europe and the United States.
His trip oozed caution. The announcements were uncontroversial; both countries agreed a new tech security partnership.
It looks like somebody did some bean counting .
His trip oozed caution. The announcements were uncontroversial; both countries agreed a new tech security partnership.

Yet the nature of the trip was less important than the sheer fact of it.
This was a British foreign secretary in a new government, making a point of visiting India in his third week in office.

India’s economy is on course to become the world’s third largest by the end of the decade. Yet it is only the UK's 12th largest trading partner.

“There is so much we can do with this global superpower,” Mr Lammy told me.
More self awareness
And that, Mr Lammy says, involves less lecturing by Britain and more listening.

Too early to tell but this is definitely different from what I was expecting from a labour govt.
 

Looks like someone has some self awareness.



It looks like somebody did some bean counting .

More self awareness


Too early to tell but this is definitely different from what I was expecting from a labour govt.

and BBC couldn't resist displaying their insecurity.

from the article.
Mr Lammy held talks with his Indian counterpart Subrahmanyam Jaishankar.

Mr. for their fellow, and no title for our fellow since our fellow is a Dr.

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‘1984 Sikh genocide’ motion dropped in UK council, fury follows



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The UK Hindus need to proceed ahead with a motion calling the founders of Khalistan as mass murderers and genocide enablers in response to the Sikh motion.
 
Looks like an F-35 has emergency landed in Trivandrum airport. I wonder what is an F-35 and an aircraft carrier doing in the Indian oceans thousands upon thousands of kilometres away from UK, still on hope that some friendly country is nearby to help them in such situations.

Note: The F-35s are jointly used by the RAF and Royal Navy.

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Looks like an F-35 has emergency landed in Trivandrum airport. I wonder what is an F-35 and an aircraft carrier doing in the Indian oceans thousands upon thousands of kilometres away from UK, still on hope that some friendly country is nearby to help them in such situations.

Note: The F-35s are jointly used by the RAF and Royal Navy.

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Iran most probably




 
Looks like an F-35 has emergency landed in Trivandrum airport. I wonder what is an F-35 and an aircraft carrier doing in the Indian oceans thousands upon thousands of kilometres away from UK, still on hope that some friendly country is nearby to help them in such situations.

Note: The F-35s are jointly used by the RAF and Royal Navy.

View: https://x.com/writetake/status/1934112006044582041

Keep it and check everything inside.Seems like a gift for free trade deal.
Do a disassembly like chinese did to usa spy plane in Hainan.

 
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‘Far right’ Farage like British Hindus.
Took them years of getting ravaged to realize who the good immigrants are.


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Do you really think this is some moment of reckoning? Goras don't see Indians any different from our neighbours. No matter how many trade deals we sign or how much democracy we bring, they will never see us as equals.

It is time to buck up, tighten our belts and race ahead like China so that we can look down upon them just as Beijing does.
 
Do you really think this is some moment of reckoning? Goras don't see Indians any different from our neighbours. No matter how many trade deals we sign or how much democracy we bring, they will never see us as equals.

It is time to buck up, tighten our belts and race ahead like China so that we can look down upon them just as Beijing does.
Tommy Robinson the far-right guy who exposed the grooming gangs initially gets so much hate from other British whites when he says Hindus and Sikhs shouldn't be clubbed with Paki Muslims.

Any Indian who is deluded to think that you'll be seen as a good brown is an idiot.

If things in the west ever get close to a civil war, the average white won't differentiate between Indians and Pakis.
 
Tommy Robinson the far-right guy who exposed the grooming gangs initially gets so much hate from other British whites when he says Hindus and Sikhs shouldn't be clubbed with Paki Muslims.

Any Indian who is deluded to think that you'll be seen as a good brown is an idiot.

If things in the west ever get close to a civil war, the average white won't differentiate between Indians and Pakis.

Well said.

The average firang will target with a cavemanly ferocity. While mullahs are strong and united as a front there, the Indians are sitting ducks. Spelling bees, working over time to do businesses, meeting and chai-samosas with each other, NRIs will be the first soft target for everyone.

But no matter what we say here, NRIs just won't listen.
 

UK's Defence Equipment & Support (DE&S) has sold three hovercraft that were formerly in service with the Royal Marines to the Pakistan Navy in a government-to-government deal, the agency announced on 30 June.

The hovercraft were decommissioned from Royal Marines service in 2021 and subsequently identified by the sales team at DE&S as being well suited for Pakistan's maritime environment, the agency added.

DE&S awarded a contract to refurbish and prepare the hovercraft for transfer to UK-based Griffon Marine Support in 2022.

According to DE&S, the hovercraft has a capability that would enable the Pakistan Navy to carry out coastal patrols, humanitarian assistance operations, and rapid deployment missions within shallow waters.

“By transferring these proven assets, we are supporting the Pakistan Navy's ability to enhance its coastal and amphibious operations, supporting our shared goal of maintaining global security as well as providing a return for the UK's defence budget,” said Commodore Richard Whalley, head of Exports and Sales at DE&S.

No details on the hovercraft were given by DE&S in its statement, but images accompanying it indicate that hovercraft that have been transferred are the 2400TD(M)-class landing craft air cushions (LCACs) manufactured by Griffon.

These LCACs are known to have formerly been in service with the 539 Assault Squadron of the Royal Marines.

The 10.6 tonne hovercraft has an overall length of 13.4 m on cushion. Powered by Deutz V8 water-cooled diesel engines, the hovercraft can attain a top speed of 35 kt and a standard range of 300 n miles at 25 kt.
 

Tom Sharpe
India is an enemy, not a friend or a neutral
So there’s a nation largely armed by Russia and which bankrolls Putin. What else would you call it?

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Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin embrace in 2024
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin embrace in 2024 Credit: Evgenia Novozhenina/Reuters
Tom Sharpe
01 July 2025 5:13pm BST
Tom Sharpe
Today, India commissioned a new warship, the INS Tamal. She is the latest in a line of eight Talwar-class stealth frigates. Similar in displacement and length to our own Type 23 frigate, superficially at least, she has a similar array of weapons and sensors. The one exception being the BrahMos anti-ship and land attack missile, theoretically a beast of a weapon with a range over 500 miles at speeds up to Mach 3, which would be far in excess of anything we have.
But there is a problem. Tamal was built by Russia in their Yantar shipyard in Kaliningrad. For those of you who follow the Indian Navy, that they have some of their ships built by Russia will not come as news. Already an aircraft carrier, 50 per cent of their submarines and the Talwar class accounts for about 20 per cent of their fleet. Many of these programmes date back decades but of course, the international climate has changed rather a lot. India’s dependence on Russia for warships is at least reducing, but should it not already be close to zero?
Meanwhile, India’s trade in Russian oil reeks of duplicity. Despite Western sanctions, India’s refiners guzzle discounted crude, often shipped by dark fleet vessels dodging and falsifying their AIS tracking. By actively engaging with this trade, New Delhi flouts global rules, reaping economic rewards while feigning neutrality. The government’s coy silence on sanctioned oil flowing through Indian ports betrays a calculated dodge of accountability, undermining efforts to choke Russia’s war chest. India is financing Putin’s atrocities.

Putin avoids oil price cap with sales to India, but his profits take a hit Price of Russian crude delivered to India1751426901466.webp

Putin avoids oil price cap with sales to India, but his profits take a hit​


Price of Russian crude delivered to India​

Dark fleet ships thrive with India’s tacit aid. Russian insurers secured New Delhi’s nod in April 2025 to cover tankers shunned by Western firms. This greenlights sanctioned oil deliveries, breaching the G7’s $60-per-barrel cap. India’s lack of oversight lets these old and poorly maintained ghost ships flood its ports, with Russian crude imports hitting a 10-month peak in May.
Meanwhile President Modi surveys all with eyes and mouth firmly closed. His Moscow visits in 2024–2025 saw dark fleet deals, only curbed after US prodding this January. Modi’s refusal to address insurance loopholes or vessel opacity shows a man who doesn’t care about right and wrong, only money. He is quite willing to finance Putin if it means cheaper oil: in this, he is an enemy of the West, not a friend and not a neutral.
Militarily the dependence on Russian equipment doesn’t make much sense either. We are increasingly seeing how poor some Russian kit is. I suggested that the BrahMos was an impressive missile system earlier and, on paper at least, it is. But manufacturers’ brochures and warfighting reality can be very different things. Putin’s supposedly unstoppable Kinzhal and Zircon weapons have both proven to be very stoppable using American made interceptors, and by no means their best ones either.
To give another example, I sailed up the Elbe in company with the Tamal’s sister ship, the INS Teg, on her maiden voyage back in 2012. It was very clear from my position 100 yards astern of her that she was unable to maintain the ordered speed of six knots required to keep formation. It was clear because every time she pulsed one engine to try and do so, huge plumes of black smoke belched out of her funnels and onto nearby sailing vessels. Speaking to one of her senior officers once alongside it became clear that 10 knots was her minimum sustainable speed (using just one engine) and that they had had to place sentries all the way up the funnels such was the risk of fire from the build-up of soot as they tried to move slower than that. Maybe she was running on a tank of Russian oil just to add insult to injury, I don’t know. The point is, either by design incompetence, or political interference leading to the same, India had acquired a ship that was unable to move slowly through the water. This will never appear on a brochure but practically, of course, it is a serious problem: an anti-submarine frigate that cannot move slowly and quietly is not a great deal of use.
Another problem is choosing a country currently that is at war to service your systems and parts. The contract to deliver the S-400 air defence units is seemingly going ahead despite the number of missiles Russia has burned through defending against Ukrainian counterattacks. And this before we get to how much less effective the S-400 has been in real life compared to the claims. Tanks, rifles, fighter jets and nuclear submarines can be added to missiles and ships on a list that looks set to endure for decades.
In sum, Indian dependence on Russian weapons is slowly reducing but it could not be clearer that this isn’t from any desire to do the right thing. New Delhi’s unhelpful practices around illegal Russian oil are rapidly increasing. And, speaking to a recently retired senior official this morning, India’s neighbours get the same message – it’s India first and the rest of you be damned. Soon India is going to have to choose a side, or we’re going to have to treat them the way they’re basically treating us: as an enemy.





P.S. ARTICLE ALSO HAVE ACTIVE COMMENT SECTION E LASHKAR should do their bit

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