Indo US Relations

[Hari Sud]

People ask why it took 5 years for Chinese to give up two tiny choke points leading to worthless peaks in Ladakh. One reason is that stagnating Chinese economy hence Xi Jinping wants lesser enemies. Second reason and bigger reason is that India is under pressure from the U.S. for buying Russian oil. The U.S. want to punish India hence set up Pannu and Nijjar affair. The Americans thought that India will relent. This move by the Chinese most likely at the instant of Russia came as a blessing in disguise. With settlement with Chinese, India has room to maneuver diplomatically. Already, a few connected U.S. media person think, it is a wrong move on the part of the Chinese. It probably embolden India to tell the U.S. and Canada to look into the mirror and think, of Air India bombing where 327 people died and number assassinations which U.S. has carried out thru out the world.

 

[Blademaster]

People ask why it took 5 years for Chinese to give up two tiny choke points leading to worthless peaks in Ladakh. One reason is that stagnating Chinese economy hence Xi Jinping wants lesser enemies. Second reason and bigger reason is that India is under pressure from the U.S. for buying Russian oil. The U.S. want to punish India hence set up Pannu and Nijjar affair. The Americans thought that India will relent. This move by the Chinese most likely at the instant of Russia came as a blessing in disguise. With settlement with Chinese, India has room to maneuver diplomatically. Already, a few connected U.S. media person think, it is a wrong move on the part of the Chinese. It probably embolden India to tell the U.S. and Canada to look into the mirror and think, of Air India bombing where 327 people died and number assassinations which U.S. has carried out thru out the world.

Who cares what others think? All that matters is getting what we want/need to safeguard our national interests, the others be damned and their opinions can go where the sun don't shine.

 

[Azaad]

View: https://twitter.com/Trendulkar/status/1851606895397593331?s=19

 

[karn]

View: https://youtu.be/QEIiaCB5l8M?si=11aoRopxTn7ll1z9&t=300

Pretty good listen.
Its about Peter Zeihan but the part I'd like to point out is the part after 5 mins
It a pretty straight forward summary of US influence operations that we discuss here.
>US private companies do not R&D on their own dime the path breaking research is done on tax payer dollar for military projects which is then commercialized as required.
>Money is put into algos to check terrorist propaganda.
>This tech is then disseminated to US SM platforms
>It is far easier to manipulate people using social media rather than setting NGOs and CIA station houses (like in Ukraine)
> Easy wins on arab spring, got rid of or put govts under pressure that were anti US followed by ukraine.
>They asked dorcey to delay twitters scheduled maintenance because elections were happening in iran.
>But then brexit and trump happened so they had to turn the same tools on the western populace.

I would like to point out that India against corruption also had happened at the same time as the arab spring. But instead of a newcomer stooge coming to power BJP did another unexpected outcome so in subsequent elections you can see them adjusting to make them weaker on their platforms. In such a situation ranting about IT cell etc is utterly pointless.

In more recent times indians support for russia and israel and how that remained the sole source of support for these countries (atleast on SM) was noted and you see the anti india narratives that are prevalent today as a response.

 

[MasterChief]

One good thing after the Ukraine war is that GOI is no longer obsessed about India avoiding sanctions and like China, has a greater appetite towards being sanctioned by US

U.S. sanctions 398 firms in more than a dozen countries, accusing them of helping Russia's war effort

US imposes sanctions on firms aiding Russia's war effort, aiming to degrade Russia's military capabilities and support for Ukraine.

www.google.com

 

[Anants]

View: https://youtu.be/QEIiaCB5l8M?si=11aoRopxTn7ll1z9&t=300

Pretty good listen.
Its about Peter Zeihan but the part I'd like to point out is the part after 5 mins
It a pretty straight forward summary of US influence operations that we discuss here.
>US private companies do not R&D on their own dime the path breaking research is done on tax payer dollar for military projects which is then commercialized as required.
>Money is put into algos to check terrorist propaganda.
>This tech is then disseminated to US SM platforms
>It is far easier to manipulate people using social media rather than setting NGOs and CIA station houses (like in Ukraine)
> Easy wins on arab spring, got rid of or put govts under pressure that were anti US followed by ukraine.
>They asked dorcey to delay twitters scheduled maintenance because elections were happening in iran.
>But then brexit and trump happened so they had to turn the same tools on the western populace.

I would like to point out that India against corruption also had happened at the same time as the arab spring. But instead of a newcomer stooge coming to power BJP did another unexpected outcome so in subsequent elections you can see them adjusting to make them weaker on their platforms. In such a situation ranting about IT cell etc is utterly pointless.

In more recent times indians support for russia and israel and how that remained the sole source of support for these countries (atleast on SM) was noted and you see the anti india narratives that are prevalent today as a response.

Good post. Please also post this in social engineering thread.

 

[Screambowl]

Canadian allegations against Amit Shah ‘concerning’, says U.S.

US expresses concern over Canada's allegations against Amit Shah, vows to consult with Ottawa on the issue.

www.thehindu.com

 

[Miss Firing]

US Cracks Down On Indian Firms For Supplies To Russian Companies​

The action, taken by the US Treasury and State Departments, imposed sanctions on nearly 400 entities and individuals from more than a dozen different countries.

US Cracks Down On Indian Firms For Supplies To Russian Companies

The United States imposed sanctions on Wednesday on hundreds of targets in fresh action against Russia, a signal the U.S. will continue to counter evasion of its measures imposed over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine.

www.ndtv.com

One good thing after the Ukraine war is that GOI is no longer obsessed about India avoiding sanctions and like China, has a greater appetite towards being sanctioned by US

U.S. sanctions 398 firms in more than a dozen countries, accusing them of helping Russia's war effort

US imposes sanctions on firms aiding Russia's war effort, aiming to degrade Russia's military capabilities and support for Ukraine.

www.google.com

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Looks like Amit Shah has caused some serious pain for americoolies & NGOs in India, nothing else explains his naming. Canada is slowly ratcheting up (on US directions) & then US responds to Canada's allegations by saying thing like "concerning" & asking India to followup. Its a tag team match.