Indo US Relations

[Hari Sud]

People ask why it took 5 years for Chinese to give up two tiny choke points leading to worthless peaks in Ladakh. One reason is that stagnating Chinese economy hence Xi Jinping wants lesser enemies. Second reason and bigger reason is that India is under pressure from the U.S. for buying Russian oil. The U.S. want to punish India hence set up Pannu and Nijjar affair. The Americans thought that India will relent. This move by the Chinese most likely at the instant of Russia came as a blessing in disguise. With settlement with Chinese, India has room to maneuver diplomatically. Already, a few connected U.S. media person think, it is a wrong move on the part of the Chinese. It probably embolden India to tell the U.S. and Canada to look into the mirror and think, of Air India bombing where 327 people died and number assassinations which U.S. has carried out thru out the world.

 

[Blademaster]

People ask why it took 5 years for Chinese to give up two tiny choke points leading to worthless peaks in Ladakh. One reason is that stagnating Chinese economy hence Xi Jinping wants lesser enemies. Second reason and bigger reason is that India is under pressure from the U.S. for buying Russian oil. The U.S. want to punish India hence set up Pannu and Nijjar affair. The Americans thought that India will relent. This move by the Chinese most likely at the instant of Russia came as a blessing in disguise. With settlement with Chinese, India has room to maneuver diplomatically. Already, a few connected U.S. media person think, it is a wrong move on the part of the Chinese. It probably embolden India to tell the U.S. and Canada to look into the mirror and think, of Air India bombing where 327 people died and number assassinations which U.S. has carried out thru out the world.

Who cares what others think? All that matters is getting what we want/need to safeguard our national interests, the others be damned and their opinions can go where the sun don't shine.

 

[Azaad]

View: https://twitter.com/Trendulkar/status/1851606895397593331?s=19

 

[karn]

View: https://youtu.be/QEIiaCB5l8M?si=11aoRopxTn7ll1z9&t=300

Pretty good listen.
Its about Peter Zeihan but the part I'd like to point out is the part after 5 mins
It a pretty straight forward summary of US influence operations that we discuss here.
>US private companies do not R&D on their own dime the path breaking research is done on tax payer dollar for military projects which is then commercialized as required.
>Money is put into algos to check terrorist propaganda.
>This tech is then disseminated to US SM platforms
>It is far easier to manipulate people using social media rather than setting NGOs and CIA station houses (like in Ukraine)
> Easy wins on arab spring, got rid of or put govts under pressure that were anti US followed by ukraine.
>They asked dorcey to delay twitters scheduled maintenance because elections were happening in iran.
>But then brexit and trump happened so they had to turn the same tools on the western populace.

I would like to point out that India against corruption also had happened at the same time as the arab spring. But instead of a newcomer stooge coming to power BJP did another unexpected outcome so in subsequent elections you can see them adjusting to make them weaker on their platforms. In such a situation ranting about IT cell etc is utterly pointless.

In more recent times indians support for russia and israel and how that remained the sole source of support for these countries (atleast on SM) was noted and you see the anti india narratives that are prevalent today as a response.

 

[MasterChief]

One good thing after the Ukraine war is that GOI is no longer obsessed about India avoiding sanctions and like China, has a greater appetite towards being sanctioned by US

U.S. sanctions 398 firms in more than a dozen countries, accusing them of helping Russia's war effort

US imposes sanctions on firms aiding Russia's war effort, aiming to degrade Russia's military capabilities and support for Ukraine.

www.google.com

 

[Anants]

View: https://youtu.be/QEIiaCB5l8M?si=11aoRopxTn7ll1z9&t=300

Pretty good listen.
Its about Peter Zeihan but the part I'd like to point out is the part after 5 mins
It a pretty straight forward summary of US influence operations that we discuss here.
>US private companies do not R&D on their own dime the path breaking research is done on tax payer dollar for military projects which is then commercialized as required.
>Money is put into algos to check terrorist propaganda.
>This tech is then disseminated to US SM platforms
>It is far easier to manipulate people using social media rather than setting NGOs and CIA station houses (like in Ukraine)
> Easy wins on arab spring, got rid of or put govts under pressure that were anti US followed by ukraine.
>They asked dorcey to delay twitters scheduled maintenance because elections were happening in iran.
>But then brexit and trump happened so they had to turn the same tools on the western populace.

I would like to point out that India against corruption also had happened at the same time as the arab spring. But instead of a newcomer stooge coming to power BJP did another unexpected outcome so in subsequent elections you can see them adjusting to make them weaker on their platforms. In such a situation ranting about IT cell etc is utterly pointless.

In more recent times indians support for russia and israel and how that remained the sole source of support for these countries (atleast on SM) was noted and you see the anti india narratives that are prevalent today as a response.

Good post. Please also post this in social engineering thread.

 

[Screambowl]

Canadian allegations against Amit Shah ‘concerning’, says U.S.

US expresses concern over Canada's allegations against Amit Shah, vows to consult with Ottawa on the issue.

www.thehindu.com

 

[Miss Firing]

US Cracks Down On Indian Firms For Supplies To Russian Companies​

The action, taken by the US Treasury and State Departments, imposed sanctions on nearly 400 entities and individuals from more than a dozen different countries.

US Cracks Down On Indian Firms For Supplies To Russian Companies

The United States imposed sanctions on Wednesday on hundreds of targets in fresh action against Russia, a signal the U.S. will continue to counter evasion of its measures imposed over Moscow's invasion of Ukraine.

www.ndtv.com

One good thing after the Ukraine war is that GOI is no longer obsessed about India avoiding sanctions and like China, has a greater appetite towards being sanctioned by US

U.S. sanctions 398 firms in more than a dozen countries, accusing them of helping Russia's war effort

US imposes sanctions on firms aiding Russia's war effort, aiming to degrade Russia's military capabilities and support for Ukraine.

www.google.com

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Looks like Amit Shah has caused some serious pain for americoolies & NGOs in India, nothing else explains his naming. Canada is slowly ratcheting up (on US directions) & then US responds to Canada's allegations by saying thing like "concerning" & asking India to followup. Its a tag team match.

 

[Varoon4]

Never strongly liked or disliked Donald Trump, but it takes courage and independent thinking to speak up for Hindus. Neither Democrats nor Republicans have specifically denounced atrocities against Hindus. Estimation of him has gone up!

https://swarajyamag.com/world/donald-trump-draws-praise-by-condemning-barbaric-violence-against-hindus-and-minorities-in-bangladesh

 

[Screambowl]

Looks like Amit Shah has caused some serious pain for americoolies & NGOs in India, nothing else explains his naming. Canada is slowly ratcheting up (on US directions) & then US responds to Canada's allegations by saying thing like "concerning" & asking India to followup. Its a tag team match.

If they have problem with Amit Shah, imagine what will happen in case Yogi is the home minister. There will be immense pressure on BJP to keep Yogi away.

 

[hurrians]

India-US forces to commence 'Exercise Vajra Prahar' from Nov 2-22 in Idaho​

https://www.business-standard.com/external-affairs-defence-security/news/india-us-forces-to-commence-exercise-vajra-prahar-from-nov-2-22-in-idaho-124110100629_1.html

 

[Miss Firing]

Maybe Trump ain't that bad

View: https://x.com/UtsavSanduja/status/1852131201584185542?t=EKFOfgW1XRA2REa0Bq2O7w&s=19

View: https://x.com/real_mahalingam/status/1852383223180935302?t=x09abcT_CqktG_puwvUmIQ&s=19

View: https://x.com/real_mahalingam/status/1852388426558980526?t=652CbrBy1motEE8oWS8qqg&s=19

LunderiMutts want to intervene for Kashmir "physically"




Expect a bloody Kashmir.

As i keep on saying, CRACKDOWN traitors. That will be starting point.

 

[crazywithmath]

LunderiMutts want to intervene for Kashmir "physically"


View attachment 13913

Expect a bloody Kashmir.

As i keep on saying, CRACKDOWN traitors. That will be starting point.

Kashmir issue is dead (even the pakroaches know this). They have since moved on to housing ooga boogas like pannun etc - read Steno Shishir's pieces. How old is the vid, btw?

 

[MasterChief]

Kashmir issue is dead (even the pakroaches know this). They have since moved on to housing ooga boogas like pannun etc - read Steno Shishir's pieces. How old is the vid, btw?

Looks like 2019 when Trump was President

 

[Miss Firing]

American asset under CIA protection makes a threat to Hindus

US-supported Khalistani terrorist Gurpatwant Singh Pannun threatens to attack Hindu temples if Diwali is celebrated with firecrackers​

US-supported Khalistani terrorist Pannun threatens to attack Hindu temples for fireworks on Diwali

Khalistani terrorist Gurpatwant Singh Pannun wants Sikhs to ensure that Hindus don’t celebrate Diwali in their homes and temples in Punjab and elsewhere by bursting firecrackers.

www.opindia.com

View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1852584061711323143

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[Brood Father]

US is a snake .. they are unreliable and dangerous partners . It's better to have animosity with US than friendship.

 

[silentassassin265]

US is a snake .. they are unreliable and dangerous partners . It's better to have animosity with US than friendship.

Sadly almost 500 of our upcoming fighter jets depends upon them (mk1a,mk2,tedbf,amca)

 

[Varoon4]

Kashmir issue is dead (even the pakroaches know this). They have since moved on to housing ooga boogas like pannun etc - read Steno Shishir's pieces. How old is the vid, btw?

No major Indian TV channel has mentioned this supposed outburst, the Times of India online edition hasn't carried the story. Maybe a clarification will be issued soon. It's always possible, more than possible, that Harris has her eyes squarely on the South Asian Islamic vote on Tuesday with these remarks.

 

[Miss Firing]

No major Indian TV channel has mentioned this supposed outburst, the Times of India online edition hasn't carried the story. Maybe a clarification will be issued soon. It's always possible, more than possible, that Harris has her eyes squarely on the South Asian Islamic vote on Tuesday with these remarks.

That video might be slight;y dated. However it does not lessen Kamalass messaging.

It also shows her thought process & maybe the direction in which her presidency will move as far as Kashmir is concerned.

They can easily prod Pakistanis to do some needling in exchange for some billions & ratchet up pressure.

Maintain constant consistent pressure at multiple points for concessions elsewhere.