Israel x Iran Conflict (93 Viewers)

If Iran had invested in modern education, science, technology, and industrialization, it could have developed a military-industrial complex similar to North Korea’s.

They have and that is why they have over 9000 types of missiles.

But that is only in the field of missiles, they gave up on everything else and were comfortable in thinking that farming 3-4 jihadi groups will keep their enemies off balances and them unharmed :bplease:

Naarth Korea is similar to us as in it's not a green country( so no jihadi simps ) and the uniformed forces will be doing all the fighting so maxxxing conventional capability is what they have to do.
 
They have and that is why they have over 9000 types of missiles.

But that is only in the field of missiles, they gave up on everything else and were comfortable in thinking that farming 3-4 jihadi groups will keep their enemies off balances and them unharmed :bplease:

Naarth Korea is similar to us as in it's not a green country( so no jihadi simps ) and the uniformed forces will be doing all the fighting so maxxxing conventional capability is what they have to do.
How can a mullah regime invest in modern education, research, and development? They’re incapable of creating the kind of environment needed for a thriving economy or for research and innovation to flourish.
 
Seeing this how endia saves it nuclear weapons, why US didn't try to destroy ours?? I know no of scientists died but still we able to manage.
For some reason, India has always maintained a massive and strong conventional military regardless of its economic situation. India has been operating an aircraft carrier since the 1950s.
 
How can a mullah regime invest in modern education, research, and development? They’re incapable of creating the kind of environment needed for a thriving economy or for research and innovation to flourish.

They have, this is not Afghanistan.
The mullahs over there, atleast the lower ranking ones are pragmatic enough.
They run their own refineries and build their own missiles and drones.
They also keep their F14 tomcats running long after their retirement age has passed and production ceased

Persians were always the more smarter, pragmatic and cultured among the greens, not like our jaahils for whom Afghan is the gold standard of modern day green religious practice
 
Seeing this how endia saves it nuclear weapons, why US didn't try to destroy ours?? I know no of scientists died but still we able to manage.
They tried. But we outplayed them. One of the major reason why a faction of DS/CIA folks have a hatred for India (because India outplayed them to become a nuclear power). They had threatened us with military might too. But we didn't gave them chance to use that against us directly. Their puppet Pakistan could not do anything against us in a conventional war. India used it's brain and brawn in a much better way to handle the same situation while Eran is doing everything to justify some drama against it.
 
They tried. But we outplayed them. One of the major reason why a faction of DS/CIA folks have a hatred for India (because India outplayed them to become a nuclear power). They had threatened us with military might too. But we didn't gave them chance to use that against us directly. Their puppet Pakistan could not do anything against us in a conventional war.
Denuclearizing India, China, or Russia was never a realistic option—simply because of powerful conventional militaries of these countries which have always acted as a solid deterrent.
 
They tried. But we outplayed them. One of the major reason why a faction of DS/CIA folks have a hatred for India (because India outplayed them to become a nuclear power). They had threatened us with military might too. But we didn't gave them chance to use that against us directly. Their puppet Pakistan could not do anything against us in a conventional war. India used it's brain and brawn in a much better way to handle the same situation while Eran is doing everything to justify some drama against it.
They can try things in future though
 
Denuclearizing India, China, or Russia was never a realistic option—simply because of powerful conventional militaries of these countries which have always acted as a solid deterrent.
One thing very clear mulleh countries think if they hv nucleur weapons they are God, nobody would dare touch to them.
 
One thing very clear mulleh countries think if they hv nucleur weapons they are God, nobody would dare touch to them.
they fail to understand is that nuclear weapons themselves can be targeted and destroyed. Nuclear deterrence doesn’t hold up against a conventionally powerful military. That’s exactly why Ukraine gave up its nukes—they knew those weapons would be the first targets in a war with Russia. Instead, they focused on acquiring conventional military hardware from the West, because in a real war, that’s what actually makes the difference.
 
they fail to understand is that nuclear weapons themselves can be targeted and destroyed. Nuclear deterrence doesn’t hold up against a conventionally powerful military. That’s exactly why Ukraine gave up its nukes—they knew those weapons would be the first targets in a war with Russia. Instead, they focused on acquiring conventional military hardware from the West, because in a real war, that’s what actually makes the difference.
The fact is after Hiroshima and Nagasaki there was huge paranoia of nuclear attack/ blackmail. Countries tried to procure or possess nuclear weapons as ultimate deterrent and a scare crow for future. Over the decades as technology evolved and conventional weapons/ missiles also evolved the deterrent kept fading and now with powerful missiles nuclear under ground silos are also not safe. Just 20 years back people used to shit with N word now militaries are pounding nuclear bases at drop of the hat in conflicts. Military strategies are evolving and now it’s not just possessing nuclear weapons it’s about how you safe guard your N installations and Air defence systems.
 
The fact is after Hiroshima and Nagasaki there was huge paranoia of nuclear attack/ blackmail. Countries tried to procure or possess nuclear weapons as ultimate deterrent and a scare crow for future. Over the decades as technology evolved and conventional weapons/ missiles also evolved the deterrent kept fading and now with powerful missiles nuclear under ground silos are also not safe. Just 20 years back people used to shit with N word now militaries are pounding nuclear bases at drop of the hat in conflicts. Military strategies are evolving and now it’s not just possessing nuclear weapons it’s about how you safe guard your N installations and Air defence systems.
In the modern era, if you have a strong conventional military and a solid economy, you don’t need nuclear weapons to deter your enemies. But if all you have are nukes without a credible conventional force or economic backbone, you won’t even be able to protect your nuclear arsenal—let alone use it as a deterrent.
 
Options for Iran
1.Chew off ego and accept the deal(would be surrender tho)
2.Full scale war with Israel
3.Bid time for Nuclear weapons
But 3rd depends on threat perception of israelis w.r.t Iran,imo it wont work since Israel will keep on targeting their nuclear facilities preventing Iran for achieving desired target.
Strikes won't stop
 
I have no qualms about the capabilities our armed forces possess; they have proven time and again that when push comes to shove, they can outperform expectations, as seen in how decisively they've humiliated Pakistan in this 2025 conflict.

But my concern isn’t about our strength. It's about the strategic consequences of a regime change in Iran. Specifically, a U.S.-installed government in Tehran that might either be overtly supportive of Pakistan or, at the very least, aligned with broader American interests in the subcontinent.


Given historical precedent like in 1965, when Iran under the Shah allowed Pakistan to safeguard key military assets. I don't think it's far-fetched to imagine a repeat of said scenario. If Pakistan were to once again gain strategic depth through Iranian territory, especially to shield its critical assets or command structures, it would create a severe operational challenge for us. In operation sindoor we were able to use this exact lack of depth Pakistan got, for our successful attacks

In this case, we’d then again face a situation where any attempt to neutralize those assets could be interpreted as an act of war against Iran, in addition to Pakistan. That fundamentally complicates our escalation calculus and undermines our ability to decisively end a conflict on our terms.
I think it will be very difficult to install a pro western govt in Eron this time around. It will need boots on ground and West is hesitant on doing it.

So, The possible scenario is a civil war.


If its Civil War i see the following:
1. Weapons flooding in Pakistan.
1. Mulla Surely will use it to negotiate with punjabi gernails.
1. Violence will increase in naapakistan.
1. Some Jihadi will find their way in India.
At this juncture there are multiple ways it can go.
West may use it as a platform to destabilize even India. Who knows what uncle sam is planning?
 

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