Israel x Iran Conflict (106 Viewers)

US is against everyone having nukes. They cannot digest the fact that they had to invite German Jews to actually have a functioning nuclear bomb, while countries like India and China developed them out of indigenous capability. This is typical whiteskin jealousy.
Don't forget their space program.

Without Wernher von Braun, their space program would be no where.
 
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US is against everyone having nukes. They cannot digest the fact that they had to invite German Jews to actually have a functioning nuclear bomb, while countries like India and China developed them out of indigenous capability. This is typical whiteskin jealousy.
The chinese had massive russian help officially at first then they just stole what they needed. We are the only ones who did it by ourselves
 
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The chinese had massive russian help officially at first then they just stole what they needed. We are the only ones who did it by ourselves
Exactly, I fully agree, updated the comment, a moment ago.
 
Don't forget their space program.

Without Wernher von Braun, their space program would be no where.
The first American on Moon was just a symbolic thing.
Everything about Saturn V boasted German technical superiority. It was Germany actually who went to the moon, under US flag.
 
Yeah the "world" is going to be mostly us in 15 years time. Remember china wants a nuclear armed Iran for a reason. The Iranian have actually cracked it, they genuinely can build it right now if they want consequences not withstanding. The cost is mostly economic, security needs to come first oil prices can be managed. amerika is not committed enough for any ground invasion to little chance for forced regime change. It will happens but that will happen in 5-10 when khamenei is dead and with the genrols taking over after purging the rg.

Irani nukes aren't our problems till we have dealt with Porkies and Chini ones. It makes zero sense for us to pay any cost to prevent fictional Irani nukes.

Let Israel pay that cost or US or anyone else.

We are in a critical phase of growth and economic hits can be detrimental to our own defense capabilities.

What will we have achieved with Iranian nukes being prevented? Some other jehadi might try to have them.
 
You initiated the personal slights. I don't care if you engage or not.

You seem to be putting Israeli interests over India's.

We rely about 90% of our oil from imports. Iran is an important source. Disruptions in that will impact our economy, inflation.
I think imports of oil from Iran stopped about 10-11 years ago, after pressure from the U.S particularly Hillary Clinton as VP. It was a rare case of India bending and making a compromise, and a few people use it to show that India is weak or very pliable. Which is not true. But India did compromise with its sovereign decision on that one.
 
Israeli aviation showed footage of the destruction of the Iranian Tor-M1 air defense system, presumably by the Israeli Delilah-AL cruise missile. The Tor-M1 air defense system is produced in Russia. Judging by the video, the Tor-M1 air defense system was inactive or was abandoned by the crew. It is worth noting that the work of the Iranian air defense system is currently disorganized. The Delilah missile was adopted by Israel in the mid-1980s, the missile has a range of up to 250 km, when launched from a low altitude, the mass of the warhead is up to 30 kg.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPyRHuRMXTQ
 
After iranian revolution the focus of Iran has been to prove they are the purest and best of muslim .. The competition to hate Israel , support Palestine, the salman rashdee episodes all points to that .. Being a shia muslim country they have extra burden to prove their musalmniat or whatever . The country went down the drain with conservative mullha running the scene .

This eagerness to acquire nuclear weapon to remove saudi from leadership of ummha chumma and faceoff with USA Israel etc is also a product of this competition to proof their loyalty to ummha chumma shit .

Seeing current status of ancient civilizations of Persia today i feel grateful to our ancestors for fighting invasion and retaining our culture , religion for thousands of years .
 
I am not sure about Canada and USA, but India already imports rare earth minerals from Australia. This suggests that India does have small scale ability to process rare earth minerals. What India lacks is the ability to scale the output; this is being rectified as we speak.

India's existing rare earth processing plants are mainly used for things that are vital for India's national security. The future plan is to become an exporter of rare earth products.

Exporting precious raw materials even before we have properly industrialized? Hell no. We don't ever think about exporting rare earths. Import raw materials all you want. But we better not export it. We don't have the luxury as of now. In fact I am against export of raw materials from our country even if were in a better economic position.
 
Azharbhaijaan being pro Israel is somethinge strange . Those drones supplied by them were a major reason they won the war with Armenia even more than the Turkroach tb2 ones

Nothing strange, Soviets purged the religiosity of the Azeri during their rule.

The guy who became the first leader of independent Azherbaijan was also some top dog in the local version of the Soviet party there, his son, Haidar Aliyev is the current dictator.

The leadership and their people are basically godless today or Shias only in name.

Baku was quite a large, multi-culti and prosperous city because of the oil industry over there during Soviet times, this made sure they remain godless urbanites unlike say the mustache-less jihadi Chechens by comparison

The panga with Armenia started just after the USSR collapsed, what you saw in 2022 was only the ending of a frozen conflict

The Jews swooped in more than two decades ago because Azharbhaijaan shares a border with Eran, and Azeris are also present inside Iran in good numbers, check map

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The Jewish scheme is to use these Azeris as a pressure point against Eran either as saboteurs or in a full blown secessionist rebellion

Accordingly, Haider Aliyev being a 2rs corrupt dictator, uses Ethnic Pride, Turkic bhaichaara etc to keep himself in power, not Islam like other similar dictators would do, it is why he has relentless panga with Armenia, intense dostana with Turkey etc.

The Azeris are supposed to be Shia, they are culturally very Persian and Turkic only in name and language.
 
I think also after the Revolution the West instantly became hostile toward the Mullah regime which brought them closer towards the USSR which would've made them a natural ally for us too from that pov at least as it would be a significant anti-West power bloc in that region.

West turned hostile because the Iranians under the Mullah's took hostages in the US embassy for more than a year , something which cost Jimmy Carter his second term as President & saw Reagan win the election.

Russia was initially bound to the west during Yeltsin's presidency before the relationship soured. In any case they were too deeply involved in setting their home in order neglecting foreign affairs.

Prior to that during the Iran Iraq war , believe it or not , everyone from the west to the Gulf Sheikhdoms to the USSR - all of them supported Saddam Hussein's Iraq . Check out the arsenal of Iraq then . It's full of USSR & French weapons & platforms especially their Air Force .

India literally trained 100s of Iraqi pilots then. We had a special relationship with Iraq primarily due to Cold War politics.

Iran would never have supported Pakistan in any conflict with us after the 80s other than maybe at best issuing some token statements
Reasons have been forwarded in my previous post.

while the Shah plied them with military equipment and oil at subsidised rqtes what with both being a part of CENTO.

Mostly due to Nixon & Kissinger leaning on the Shah & other Gulf Sheikhdoms to back Paxtan with material & money since they couldn't do so directly given the Congressional ban on any kind of assistance to both India & Paxtan.

Iirc the Mullah regime also opposed US sanctions on us in the 90s. It was an important part of our foreign policy tight rope walk for a reason with the rhe Gulf sheikhdoms too not having the sort of relationship with us then that they do now.
Agreed. But this opening wasn't as straight forward as people may think it is . Right through the Iran Iraq war , Iranians kept shelling our oil tankers carrying Iraqi oil to India. IIRC we lost the maximum number of tankers of any side in that conflict.

The break through came mostly during ABV's tenure thanks to leg work done by our diplomats there.

Significant changes in world geopolitics enabled this. In the 1990s the world was a different place. Iraq was neutered in Gulf War -1 , the USSR had collapsed , Iran was increasingly ostracized , the Gulf Sheikhdoms kept giving India the short shrift favouring Paxtan over India especially over Kashmir in which the Mullahs too contributed to making our lives miserable.

Not many people know that there were local Shi'a terrorist groups operating in Kashmir funded & trained by Iran . It's one of our best kept secrets. That's another reason we were trying for a diplomatic break through with Iran which came about in 1990s.

Hence my earlier post our relationship with Iran is more or less the same as it was during the Shah's rule
 
Exporting precious raw materials even before we have properly industrialized? Hell no. We don't ever think about exporting rare earths. Import raw materials all you want. But we better not export it. We don't have the luxury as of now. In fact I am against export of raw materials from our country even if were in a better economic position.

I was not talking about exporting rare earth minerals. I was talking about exporting rare earth products. I am against exporting raw materials as well. I am even against exporting steel; forget about rare earth minerals.
 
Yeah the "world" is going to be mostly us in 15 years time. Remember china wants a nuclear armed Iran for a reason. The Iranian have actually cracked it, they genuinely can build it right now if they want consequences not withstanding. The cost is mostly economic, security needs to come first oil prices can be managed. amerika is not committed enough for any ground invasion to little chance for forced regime change. It will happens but that will happen in 5-10 when khamenei is dead and with the genrols taking over after purging the rg.

I agree. Regime change in Iran is highly unlikely without direct or indirect ground invasion. Do you think USA may be planning to use Pakistan as a launchpad for ground invasion of Iran?
 

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