Israel x Iran Conflict (42 Viewers)

[snakeeyes07]

I'm appalled. Iran, using PMU militias, placed Iran oriented Shia candidates in the Iraqi (enemy state) parliament, managed to hold Assad's hand throughout the entire civil war till Russians started wrapping up and other factors (Assad made a lot of big mistakes last year which led to his downfall this year), had control over Lebanon with a near iron grip using Hezbollah and was financing and keeping the Palestinian and Houthi terrorists up to snuff.

Such outsized influence and I would sit down and marvel reading about IRGC's exploits. Truly world class capability in assymetric and unconventional warfare.

Naturally, I assumed that their conventional military would be sort of somewhere around the same level. I assumed that that level of mental bandwidth would at least hold up their conventional capability too.

Now it seems like the Iranian regime focused their entire attention and put all of their best men in Basij and ignored their conventional capability to what we see now.

The hardest part of the war for the Israelis so far has been stopping Iranian missiles on population centers and target prioritisation according to a missile's ROI.

It's honestly way way worse than Pakistan or some African countries.

It will be kind of same story with Pakistan, after 5-7 days of intense war, they would be in similar state.

Both relying on using unconventional means to drive their foreign policy and military outlook.

 

[shade2]

So Trump is in Canada for G7, would his delegation include their NSA, Rubio, Hegseth? If they are all here then who is Munir going to meet in his 5 day long state visit.

Pentagon walas and the Glown!ggers ofc.
As i've said, Poonir is there on business, he's not there to see Abe Lincoln's statue or that egyptian obelisk thing.

yesterday in the Eastern Irani city of Mashhad a refueller plane was hit while parked



No surprising for guessing which Islam ka Qila mulq was responsible for this

 

[Doreamon]

View: https://youtu.be/85nHz-5isSI

Bombing state broadcaster sending state propaganda during war that too when it live is a very strong message . Things I have noticed is israel has even bombed ministry of justice , police headquarter in Teheran . It sends a message on who is in charge and how weak the regime has become . Also these institutions must have been hated by many people during hizab protests .

 

[Waanar]

It will be kind of same story with Pakistan, after 5-7 days of intense war, they would be in similar state.

Both relying on using unconventional means to drive their foreign policy and military outlook.

While I do hope so, I don't believe that. Iran had clear indicators that they were suffering on the conventional side before this kambal kutai started. When your frontline fighters are planes like F14s and F4 phantoms, there's something severely lacking.
Pakistan doesn't show such stagnant capability. They do keep upgrading or trying to upgrade their weapons. They still focus a lot on their conventional capability.

Can't believe I'm saying this but Iranians are proving to be stupider than Pakistanis right now.
Holy shit, that's a sentence I never thought I'd say in my life.

 

[Muzh]

Iran. Any day will choose Iran.
One cannot trust the jew, ever.
Historically any country which has trusted the jew has been tricked by him and has great misery thrusted upon him. I know it's very tempting to say Israel, but no, never.
Business partner, yes. Military ally - no.

If you are an Indian, you should be on the side of only one country -- India. I am baffled that this simple wisdom is missing from so many of the members.

I am confounded by the posting patterns of the some of the members. Let me describe their pattern:

- Mock Indian officials both elected and bureaucratic (heck they even mock Indian armed forces)
- The same members then put on pink pompoms and cheerlead for Israel -- weird (metaphorically speaking)

I am in favor of close India - Israel relationship. This does not mean, Indians should be cheering leading Israel -- or Iran for that matter.

Is it really that difficult to understand why it is important for India to maintain good relations with both Iran and Israel?

 

[snakeeyes07]

While I do hope so, I don't believe that. Iran has clear indicators that they're suffering on the conventional side. When your frontline fighters are planes like F14s and F4 phantoms, there's something severely lacking.
Pakistan doesn't show such stagnant capability. They do keep upgrading or trying to upgrade their weapons. They still focus a lot on their conventional capability.

Can't believe I'm saying this but Iranians are proving to be stupider than Pakistanis right now.
Holy shit, that's a sentence I never thought I'd say in my life.

Pakistan's war sustainment capability and ability to accept pain is low.

They are a evolving challenge, especially PAF but some of their limitations cannot be changed/addressed. I feel now the pace of change/modernization in India will be better overall.

 

[shade2]

While I do hope so, I don't believe that. Iran had clear indicators that they were suffering on the conventional side before this kambal kutai started. When your frontline fighters are planes like F14s and F4 phantoms, there's something severely lacking.
Pakistan doesn't show such stagnant capability. They do keep upgrading or trying to upgrade their weapons. They still focus a lot on their conventional capability.

Can't believe I'm saying this but Iranians are proving to be stupider than Pakistanis right now.
Holy shit, that's a sentence I never thought I'd say in my life.

Perhaps if their lasting panga was with Eye-rack instead they would have built up their conventional capability appropriately.

vid related


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w7TBRk1bWo&list=RD7w7TBRk1bWo&start_radio=1

The eeebul jooz being like 3-4 countries distance away led them to smoking the hashish of hamass, hislullah and houthias.

For Bhikaristanis, the ebul Hendu baniya kaffir is just across the LoC/IB, and now our Great Leader has shown them that g*ndmasti by proxies will lead to gaand pe danda in Pakjabi cities

 

[Azaad]

When Trump was asked if he ll participate in war .. he said I don't want to talk about that..


View: https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1934624129266618532


View: https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1934622813609922818

So the stage is being set for the Americans to enter the war.

 

[snakeeyes07]

If you are an Indian, you should be on the side of only one country -- India. I am baffled that this simple wisdom is missing from so many of the posters.

I am confounded by the posting patterns of the some of the posters. Let me describe their pattern:

- Mock Indian officials both elected and bureaucratic (heck they even mock Indian armed forces)
- The same posters then put on pink pompoms and cheerlead for Israel -- weird (metaphorically speaking)

I am in favor of close India - Israel relationship. This does not mean, Indians should be cheering leading Israel -- or Iran for that matter.

Is it really that difficult to understand why it is important for India to maintain good relations with both Iran and Israel?

Since 2021-22, the world stage is getting more and more chaotic, things are changing fast. Lines are being divided geopolitically.

Who would have thought Russia would get bogged down in Ukraine for more than 3 years. India-Pakistan would be clashing 3-4 rungs up the escalation ladder along the whole border. Afghan Taliban would emerge as bigger enemy/threat for Pakistan than Ghani and previous regimes when US was there.

Now with the trade war going on, China blocking relocation of Apple factory equipment to India and rare earth magnets now, the space for geopolitical balancing is becoming restricted.

I think there is only limited space for one such balancing, Russia balancing is far much valuable to India. This can be sold to US and other western powers by saying that India is a counter weight to Chinese influence in Russia. Otherwise Russia would go totally into China's sphere of influence. It helps economy too by importing Russian oil.

Trying to balance Israel and Iran ties after this war would put you in a situation where you can enjoy benefits from none. If there is no regime change in Iran then it would remain heavily sanctioned. This will also hurt relations with Trump administration. If there is regime change, then it will be a totally different situation, where you can maintain good relations with both Israel and Iran. Israel and Iran had very good relations during Shah's time.

I am not saying to break relations all together with Iran, work with them where your interests align but it should not come a cost of harm to relationship with Israel, US.

 

[spikey360]

If you are an Indian, you should be on the side of only one country -- India. I am baffled that this simple wisdom is missing from so many of the members.

I am confounded by the posting patterns of the some of the members. Let me describe their pattern:

- Mock Indian officials both elected and bureaucratic (heck they even mock Indian armed forces)
- The same members then put on pink pompoms and cheerlead for Israel -- weird (metaphorically speaking)

I am in favor of close India - Israel relationship. This does not mean, Indians should be cheering leading Israel -- or Iran for that matter.

Is it really that difficult to understand why it is important for India to maintain good relations with both Iran and Israel?

I suppose you didn't even take the time to read the question to which the answer was posted.

 

[DancingPeacock]

I heard Israel seems to have questionable relationship with China, thinking that they can ride two tigers. But do they know presently the Chinese are running the biggest psyop in tiktok and other social media against Israel and Jews?

Would have to see, how far they can try to ride the tiger. There is lot more tech India can acquire from Israel. Every dog and cat is now anti-semite on Reddit, Twitter, Tiktok.

 

[Varzone]

If Russia starts arming the Syrians though....

Huh? Russia needs to start arming Russia first then worry about others.

Need I remind you this is the same Russia who was importing shahed drones from Iran not too long ago.

 

[Muzh]

So the stage is being set for the Americans to enter the war.

Did you really think that US was not going to enter the war?

 

[MasterChief]

Guys, my google translate is spitting straight facts-
View attachment 39921

Iran is begging Trump now...


View: https://x.com/AJEnglish/status/1934659921762464171?t=Uhw5zH7PL1sGfz0bduamCg&s=19

 

[snakeeyes07]

Huh? Russia needs to start arming Russia first then worry about others.

Need I remind you this is the same Russia who was importing shahed drones from Iran not too long ago.

Well, Syrians are US-Israeli and Turkey allies now.

 

[Azaad]

Did you really think that US was not going to enter the war?

Yes . I had my doubts. Still do. For one it means Iran escalating the war to the Gulf Arab states which in turn means damaging or destroying their oil facilities. I don't need to add what that means for the global economy now.

 

[Varzone]

U.S. is already participating in the war.

How is defending against missile attacks from Iran not being involved? Not even talking about complete information support and special armament deliveries diverted from Ukraine to Israel in preparation, giving air defence battery missiles and modifying F-35s keeping in mind refueling operations for attack on Iran.

 

[snakeeyes07]

I heard Israel seems to have questionable relationship with China, thinking that they can ride two tigers. But do they know presently the Chinese are running the biggest psyop in tiktok and other social media against Israel and Jews?

Would have to see, how far they can try to ride the tiger. There is lot more tech India can acquire from Israel. Every dog and cat is now anti-semite on Reddit, Twitter, Tiktok.

They had some defence cooperation with China in 1990s. Since 2000s they stopped it and US blocked it. It is only business relationship with China like the rest of the world. If now lines are being drawn between US and China, where do you think Israel will go?

 

[shade2]

Since 2021-22, the world stage is getting more and more chaotic, things are changing fast. Lines are being divided geopolitically.

Who would have thought Russia would get bogged down in Ukraine for more than 3 years. India-Pakistan would be clashing 3-4 rungs up the escalation ladder along the whole border. Afghan Taliban would emerge as bigger enemy/threat for Pakistan than Ghani and previous regimes when US was there.

Now with the trade war going on, China blocking relocation of Apple factory equipment to India and rare earth magnets now, the space for geopolitical balancing is becoming restricted.

I think there is only limited space for one such balancing, Russia balancing is far much valuable to India. This can be sold to US and other western powers by saying that India is a counter weight to Chinese influence in Russia. Otherwise Russia would go totally into China's sphere of influence. It helps economy too by importing Russian oil.

Trying to balance Israel and Iran ties after this war would be put you in a situation where you can enjoy benefits from none. If there is no regime change in Iran then it would remain heavily sanctioned. This will also hurt relations with Trump administration. If there is regime change, then it will be a totally different situation, where you can maintain good relations with both Israel and Iran. Israel and Iran had very good relations during Shah's time.

I am not saying to break relations all together with Iran, work with them where your interests align but it should not come a cost of harm to relationship with Israel, US.

Arre kuch nahi hoga, we can continue as we are currently doing, y'all nibbiars bekar me tense ho rahe ho.
The jews haven't been pushy about our relations with Iran, i doubt they will in the future.

 

[Varzone]

Well, Syrians are US-Israeli and Turkey allies now.

Yeah it’s all puppet states lined around Israel now