Israel x Iran Conflict (91 Viewers)

Lol palestinian cope after realisation that his fellow muslim country Azerbaizan is behind success of moshad's operation in Iran . He should be assured pakistan and Turkey regimes are not behind as well .


View: https://x.com/_assaf_ps/status/1933691011936514345

Northern Iran has a fairly large ethnic Azerbaijani population.

Sooner or later, they're going to be Iran's Kashmir. Azerbaijan does wish to fan the flames of separatism there and allegedly supports a few separatist groups.
 
The amnesiacs were expected to not be amnesiacs and remember their lived experiences.
If you feel earning a brownie points by my citing wikipedia link is something worth celebrating because all old links are dead, be my guest.
So you're telling me you have no proof, just a gut feeling?
 
So you're telling me you have no proof, just a gut feeling?
Your gut feelings about SAS operators are indicators of your acumen. Enough said.
 
well if it’s worth anything, I used to work in an international investment firm and I remember in one of the meetings on oil and gas they told that Qatar had sponsored many militias who eventually turned into ISIS to destroy Syria and in turn supply gas to Europe instead.

They never mentioned Jews but Israel would be knowing about it probably and used it to their benefit since they were sworn enemies of Assad. Sorry to derail thread but you all were talking about it for a few pages so thought I might add well add what I know.
 
Instead of doing >muh SAS operator and >muh Ruskal soldier it is better to do 2+2 and see who would benefit.

Another thing is all green jihadi groups are rabid and against Israel but these were not, seemingly their target was Shia Kuffar mulqs Iraq and Syria 🤨

Now i'm not a green or a chutiya who thinks that the jihadis on ground were actually mossad agents/da jooz or some shit, :bplease: they were honest to Ola greens, just as their leader intended them to be 1400 years ago.

But then at the top levels the strings were being pulled by Mossad/CIA to overthrow Assad and purge Iraq of pro-Irani Shia elements and also ofc attack Hezbollah in Lebanon.

All this in general proves my deeply held view that Goras will give #PhullSapport to the Greens always since they are the best useful idiot lemmings for their purposes.
Whole issue is too complicated & there are no clear cut answers.

One version is Qatar proposed shipping oil to the Mediterranean Sea thru a pipeline running thru Syria from where alternate routes running thru Turkey onwards from Syria or from the Syrian coast could take the oil & gas to the EU.

Apparently either Assad asked for a huge price or he dismissed the offer off hand. Be that as it may , Qatar got Turkey to do their dirty work.

Another version has the US & Gulf Sheikhdoms worried by the Islamists including the AQ types on the one hand & political revolution sweeping the Arab world on the other hand , decided to create instability in the Syria Iraq axes to draw these fanatics in & then entrap them there.

Iran has no choice in the matter as the ISIS following the Salafi / Wahhabi ideology see the Shi'a as bigger kuffar than other genuine kuffar as per Islamic doctrine. They had to throw in their lot with their partisans in Iraq & Syria .

Israel had not much role to play nor would it be wise by the players then to involve Israel as well , as the moment Israel's involvement became known the boot would be on the other foot.

Besides why would Israel be involved if their purpose was being served without their involvement. A decade & a half later the Assad regime is gone , Hezbollah is decapitated , Hamas is destroyed & Iran is on its knees.

All Israel has to do now is destroy the Iranian regime , wait for things to settle down & then go in for the final solution at the opportune moment i.e push all the Palestinians from Gaza & West Bank into Jordan & let the latter deal with the problem .

In all probability after the initial waves of violence & protests die down we'd see a repeat of this 👇 except this time I don't expect the Jordanian Royal Family to emerge lucky.


View: https://youtu.be/try3LAQxSAE?si=pZJe6e5xHQaly5BZ

Come across a Paxtani shouting justice for Gaza , shove this video down his throat .
 
They never mentioned Jews but Israel would be knowing about it probably and used it to their benefit since they were sworn enemies of Assad. Sorry to detail thread but you all were talking about it for a few pages so thought I might add well add what I know.
Very much so. The Jew's support for Jehadi Johns of this world was very well known.
And it's not derailing at all, since we have many rabid Israel fans here who want us to forget history and support Israel because of the business deals and some hypothetical Jewish love for Hindus (I don't know how welcoming Talmudic Jews would be of that idea), it is pertinent to consider all pros and cons. Here, we are simply discussing. We have the luxury to discuss without taking "Heil Hitler" like allegiance to either Iran or Israel, but as you know, some among us would like it to be otherwise.
 
Your gut feelings about SAS operators are indicators of your acumen. Enough said.
No, that is just one testimony from someone on the ground and I clearly outlined that is one guy's testimony.
What you've given me is a rather confident conclusion based on the Iranian government accusing ISIS being of Israeli origin and one group in Gaza which possibly has Israeli backing also having former ISIS members.


I am once again asking for proof. I hate outlining it over and over again.

You said "Israel propped up ISIS". I'm asking you for proof of Israel propping up ISIS, not ad hominem attacks about my acumen.

I'm not trying to be condescending, even though it may sound like it. I'm genuinely asking you-
Can you please show me any proof that proves Israel propped up ISIS?
 
Again, no arguments there. ISIS was rabidly anti Shia and Iran and most groups north of Israel who happen to be anti-Israel are Shias so Israel is well served in letting them run wild.
But correlation does not equal to causation.

I'm looking for proof. We're fine with Taliban fucking over Pakistan. Does that mean we SUPPORT Taliban? Fuck no.
Can someone accuse us of backing Taliban?
No.

Does Taliban gain some aid from us and maybe some wetwork tasking in exchange of something? Of course.
Does this mean we're propping up Taliban? Lol no.

Saar, we do, for the common goal of banging the Daalkhor Pakjabis.
Someone, i mean folks in Pindi do j'accuse! us but nobody believes them, that's how good we are :troll:

Taliban are the de-facto govt of Afghanduland and there is no credible threat to their power so we don't need to prop them up so to speak, we do not puppet them either.

It's not sem2sem as to how jews, glow in the dark CIA country and all their ((( allies ))) operate.

As i've said in posts earlier that the jew will go to any lengths to get his goals, no treachery too small.

However they are friendly towards us an we share common cause against rabid greens, IR of Iran is certainly not the last, there is Toorkey also in the future.

but anyway i'm giving my 2c about the ISIS/Israel connection and how they gifted Mirage III to fellow Western bloc allie Paapistan in '71 to just show how realpolitik they are and just how amoral they can be for their objectives.

Northern Iran has a fairly large ethnic Azerbaijani population.

Sooner or later, they're going to be Iran's Kashmir. Azerbaijan does wish to fan the flames of separatism there and allegedly supports a few separatist groups.

And of course we all can agree without demands for "proof" that Israel supports Azharbhaijan only for the above cause?
Now they do not case if their Azeri allies end up causing another Armenian genocide as payment for their support in pushing the above insurgency apart from any other services they currently provide.
Such are die Juden :truestory: or rather die Israelien, the standard left liberal kikes deserve what Austrian painterman did to them.
 
Iran remaining stable is in interest of India . There should not be a post Iraq war like situation . But I think end of mullha regime if happens in near or later future that ll be a good thing . Every country look for their interest .. but if your country is ruled by mullhas they are on a different kind of churan .
 
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Jew is doubling down on this.

Too many jingoistic statements lot of unnecessary interviews and literally begging US to jump in to the was.

It's clear they don't hv full control of the situation.

They might be winning the battle but loosing the war at this point. As long as US doesn't jump in this will go very very dirty for both sides.

There is no good out come of this for anyone in this war from entire West to south Asia.

The region has been successfully thrown toshit by US and China.
 
Whole issue is too complicated & there are no clear cut answers.

One version is Qatar proposed shipping oil to the Mediterranean Sea thru a pipeline running thru Syria from where alternate routes running thru Turkey onwards from Syria or from the Syrian coast could take the oil & gas to the EU.

Apparently either Assad asked for a huge price or he dismissed the offer off hand. Be that as it may , Qatar got Turkey to do their dirty work.

Another version has the US & Gulf Sheikhdoms worried by the Islamists including the AQ types on the one hand & political revolution sweeping the Arab world on the other hand , decided to create instability in the Syria Iraq axes to draw these fanatics in & then entrap them there.

Iran has no choice in the matter as the ISIS following the Salafi / Wahhabi ideology see the Shi'a as bigger kuffar than other genuine kuffar as per Islamic doctrine. They had to throw in their lot with their partisans in Iraq & Syria .

Israel had not much role to play nor would it be wise by the players then to involve Israel as well , as the moment Israel's involvement became known the boot would be on the other foot.

Besides why would Israel be involved if their purpose was being served without their involvement. A decade & a half later the Assad regime is gone , Hezbollah is decapitated , Hamas is destroyed & Iran is on its knees.

All Israel has to do now is destroy the Iranian regime , wait for things to settle down & then go in for the final solution at the opportune moment i.e push all the Palestinians from Gaza & West Bank into Jordan & let the latter deal with the problem .

In all probability after the initial waves of violence & protests die down we'd see a repeat of this 👇 except this time I don't expect the Jordanian Royal Family to emerge lucky.


View: https://youtu.be/try3LAQxSAE?si=pZJe6e5xHQaly5BZ

Come across a Paxtani shouting justice for Gaza , shove this video down his throat .


Didn't know about this Qatari angle but most of these Gulf Sheikhdoms were in sync in dealing with the Baath party offshoots like Assad Sr/Saddam/Gaddafi etc with America and Israel, that Assad became buddy buddy with Iran, who once against all the Sheikhdoms hate because of the threat to overthrow them, sem2sem like the baath party boys, made sure they were all the same page once again.

It might not be a fully Israeli project, however they were in on it, and it was primarily done for their purposes.
Basically in ASSAD MUST GO, ISIS or the other jihadi opposition, the following main players were there

>Israel
>US
>Turkey
>Gulf Sheikhdoms, Saudi,Emirati, Qatari since they were together that time

One thing i'm interested is the future, assuming the Mullah regime is changed who is the big bad in the ME then?
Baath party boys are gone
Islamic Republic exporting Farsis are gone

Will Erdogand fill the vaccum?
Will Da Jooz end up inadvertently painting a target on their own back?


Interesting times ahead

btw in terms of the :troll: The Final Solution to the Poliostinian Question :troll: I think they will be sent into Egypt, since as you have mentioned it would delete the Hashemite dynasty of Jordan if the WB and Gaza walas are dumped there.
For Masris it's just another drop in the sea of their 100 million people.
Egyptian military dictators are also shameless, they will do anything for billions in that U$ aid money.
 
Saar, we do, for the common goal of banging the Daalkhor Pakjabis.
Someone, i mean folks in Pindi do j'accuse! us but nobody believes them, that's how good we are :troll:

Taliban are the de-facto govt of Afghanduland and there is no credible threat to their power so we don't need to prop them up so to speak, we do not puppet them either.

It's not sem2sem as to how jews, glow in the dark CIA country and all their ((( allies ))) operate.

As i've said in posts earlier that the jew will go to any lengths to get his goals, no treachery too small.

However they are friendly towards us an we share common cause against rabid greens, IR of Iran is certainly not the last, there is Toorkey also in the future.

but anyway i'm giving my 2c about the ISIS/Israel connection and how they gifted Mirage III to fellow Western bloc allie Paapistan in '71 to just show how realpolitik they are and just how amoral they can be for their objectives.



And of course we all can agree without demands for "proof" that Israel supports Azharbhaijan only for the above cause?
Now they do not case if their Azeri allies end up causing another Armenian genocide as payment for their support in pushing the above insurgency apart from any other services they currently provide.
Such are die Juden :truestory: or rather die Israelien, the standard left liberal kikes deserve what Austrian painterman did to them.
While I do agree to a few points, I'll differ on one.
There's clear indicators that both Azerbaijan and Israel support each other.
National transactional relations do leave clear proofs like Israel being the second country to recognize Azerbaijan after Turkey, Azerbaijan being the third largest arms importer of Israel after India and Vietnam or stuff like this-
or
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/sjtv1p2rp#google_vignette (Use google translate)

What I'm saying is, we have a rather consistent and aligned ally in Israel and when people write dumb stuff just for the sake of being contrarian like-
Iran. Any day will choose Iran.
One cannot trust the jew, ever.
Historically any country which has trusted the jew has been tricked by him and has great misery thrusted upon him. I know it's very tempting to say Israel, but no, never.
Business partner, yes. Military ally - no.
It rocks my boat.


Do you know what Muslims have done to our nation? And you'll take Iran over Israel any day?
Are you stupid?
Iran did stuff like this-

Attacking a defence attache and just because you're so lost in western alt right narrative of "Da juice", you're saying stuff like "I'll take a muslim country over Jewish".

I feel like, at least on this site, the anti Israeli fanboyism has gone to some people's heads to the point where they don't understand the simple fact that Israel is, as of yet, a valuable and contributing ally to India.
Does it mean we're BFFs forever? Hell no.

Does it mean I'll trust a country that attacked my nation's soil over an ally who has been transactional and sometimes even helpful in nature? Fuck no.

No nation is a friend but if you think that Iran (which is ruled by mullahs who sanction rape of women in jails for not wearing hijab and sold out Kulbhushan Jadhav to Pakistan) is supposed to be a better ally, go to whatever telegram group you crawled out of and spout your drivel there.

Thank you for coming to my fucking ted talk.
 
Attacking a defence attache and just because you're so lost in western alt right narrative of "Da juice", you're saying stuff like "I'll take a muslim country over Jewish".

I feel like, at least on this site, the anti Israeli fanboyism has gone to some people's heads to the point where they don't understand the simple fact that Israel is, as of yet, a valuable and contributing ally to India.
Does it mean we're BFFs forever? Hell no.

Does it mean I'll trust a country that attacked my nation's soil over an ally who has been transactional and sometimes even helpful in nature? Fuck no.

I support Israel over Iran for the main reason that they are very useful for our nation in terms of training, intelligence, munitions and ToT for weapon systems, aside from the emotional reason that they clap greens just how they deserve when nobody else seems able to.

Meanwhile, even if you ignore the rabid mulla behaviors of the IR regime of Iran, they are useless to us by comparison, as i've mentioned before even Chabahar port which is their only saving grace, is in danger with their treacherous behavior viz the Chong, they are not reliable at all, neither do we have any common cause with them.
Another example is them gifting Kulbhushan to the Bakistanis.

Now the current model of "Ajay Devgan Doing Split" diplomacy is alright but if we have to choose, Israel is a no brainer, the benefits that they provide are too damn high compared to half assed and obviously forced co-operation by these irani mullas
 

I remember a lot of articles in the 2017-2019 period by various Paki authors in papers including Dawn and Haaretz that Paki and Yahood are about to establish diplomatic relations :pmegusta:

They used to report such happenings with glee, as in "O kaffirs, we will steal your ally, DA JOOZ! who will then sell us all the secrets of your weaponry, Inshallah!"
 
Didn't know about this Qatari angle but most of these Gulf Sheikhdoms were in sync in dealing with the Baath party offshoots like Assad Sr/Saddam/Gaddafi etc with America and Israel, that Assad became buddy buddy with Iran, who once against all the Sheikhdoms hate because of the threat to overthrow them, sem2sem like the baath party boys, made sure they were all the same page once again.

The Assads - both father & son never reconciled with Israel . Iraq under Saddam was too much of a loose cannon & much too powerful for the Gulf Sheikhdoms to do anything much to him .

Eventually his own hubris spelt his doom. Gaddafi was once again too much of a maverick. Though he eventually mended his fences with the west they never forgave him . Result even after surrendering the N option & exposing A.Q. Khan Bhopali he got taken out in a west sponsored campaign .

That right there was a lesson to North Korea Paxtan & Iran never surrender the N option come what may .

It might not be a fully Israeli project, however they were in on it, and it was primarily done for their purposes.

The Israelis were definitely aware as I pointed out.
Basically in ASSAD MUST GO, ISIS or the other jihadi opposition, the following main players were there

>Israel
>US
>Turkey
>Gulf Sheikhdoms, Saudi,Emirati, Qatari since they were together that time
Yes. As some ex senior military personnel from the US pointed out a long time ago plans to eradicate the regimes of Iran Iraq Sudan Libya Somalia Syria & North Korea were made by Bush Jr Administration when he made that famous axes of evil speech in 2002-3. It must be still there in the net somewhere.

One thing i'm interested is the future, assuming the Mullah regime is changed who is the big bad in the ME then?
Baath party boys are gone
Islamic Republic exporting Farsis are gone

Will Erdogand fill the vaccum?
Will Da Jooz end up inadvertently painting a target on their own back?


Interesting times ahead

With the rise of EV what strategic interest would the ME hold over the rest of the world. It'd go back to becoming the back waters of camel phuckers it was all along till the next mohmmed comes along or another invaluable mineral like oil is discovered there in the future whenever that is. Alhamdulillah !
btw in terms of the :troll: The Final Solution to the Poliostinian Question :troll: I think they will be sent into Egypt, since as you have mentioned it would delete the Hashemite dynasty of Jordan if the WB and Gaza walas are dumped there.
For Masris it's just another drop in the sea of their 100 million people.
Egyptian military dictators are also shameless, they will do anything for billions in that U$ aid money.
Would be true of Gaza . Not sure it can be done to West Bank Palestinians due to geography. Besides most Gazans have relatives in Egypt like those in the West Bank have relatives in Jordan.
 
Iran sold out Kulbhushan Jadhav to Pakistan? False and utter lie.
It is Iran whose help you are taking in operating in Pakistan and Afghanistan and doing clandestine things.

ISIS is Israel. Whole Manipur Kuki project is Israel.
 
Iran remaining stable is in interest of India . There should not be a post Iraq war like situation . But I think end of mullha regime if happens in near or later future that ll be a good thing . Every country look for their interest .. but if your country is ruled by mullhas they are on a different kind of churan .

Any EXTREMIST Islamic REGIME specially siding with Pakis on Kashmir issue is not in our favor.

Post Mulla regime, India-Iran can continue their transactional business as usual. Remember India has economic interests in Iran specially ports. India managed to get special waiver from the US for this since countries backing Iran also have to face sanctions. India has diversified it's OIL/Gas needs with Russia and can do more with other Arab nations. Iran is not that strategically important like Russia that we keep messing with US all the time. India is balancing the act now.

Iran had option to keep it's civilian nuclear projects but it kept threatening Israel every nano second. Iran made a SERIOUS mistake and supported all terrorist orgs like Houthi, HAMAS, HizLulla. Iran wanna be the Islamic leader of the world. Most Arab nations are irked by this and gave SILENT nod to Israel/US to chasten them up.
The WIKI LEAKS also showed Saudis asked the US to strangulate this "snake" referring to Iran.

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Meanwhile 5 car blasts killing more nuclear scientists aka "Abdul Qadeer" are sent to jannat to continue their uranium enrichment projects. Total 14 "Abdul Qadeer" of Iran are sent below 6 feet.
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