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I still can't get over how insanely CUCKED the chongs are.
Then Japanese, the Koreans all knew this long time ago.No wonder a small country like Japan conquered Manchuria and inflicted untold pain and suffering on the population.
What's more, the Chinese couldn't even eject them. It was only after the Japanese surrender that they withdrew.
That's the aukat of the HAN.
 
Its about the courage to act on the window of opportunity which chinis are not able to conjure up
For them, it is not possible.
They have not shed blood in any conflict after the Korean war.
Galwan was an exception.

India is continuously bleeding in Kashmir. Not to mention our experience in Sri Lanka, East Pakistan. We don't fear body count, our only fear is dhanda (controversial).

Chinese fear even the weather.
 
For them, it is not possible.
They have not shed blood in any conflict after the Korean war.
Galwan was an exception.

India is continuously bleeding in Kashmir. Not to mention our experience in Sri Lanka, East Pakistan. We don't fear body count, our only fear is dhanda (controversial).

Chinese fear even the weather.

I doubt even dhandha is our concern … Modi z was prepared for even nuke exchange …

Anyway chinis dont have any real fear against Taiwan … Usa will try to resupply up to an extent but due to simple geography Chinese shud be able to establish control…
 
Chinese are doing the mistake committed by Hezbollah and Iran.

Hezbollah should have gone all out when Israel invaded Gaza in operation against Hamas. What was the point to wait? They knew they were next. on top of that they even continued poking the israeli's.

Iran should have gone all out against Israel when israel went after Hezbollah. Afterall they were next in line. Why not open two fronts and stress their resources.

Now its upto China. They either wait or go invade Taiwan.

Contrast them with Nato Response.
They tied Russian in Ukraine. When it became apparent that russia is now firmly tied in ukraine. They ventured into middle east. One by one they took out russian influence. Hamas done, Hezbollah done, syria done, Iran will be soon, protected porkies form our bashing, pressured us on east using Kanglus.

Americans are one by one shaping the battlespace while chongs are waiting and waiting and waiting. Chongs bet on deindustrializing Rest of the world is also not going as per the plan. The more they wait even other neutral countries will say enough is enough with chong supply lines.
 
Chinese are doing the mistake committed by Hezbollah and Iran.

Hezbollah should have gone all out when Israel invaded Gaza in operation against Hamas. What was the point to wait? They knew they were next. on top of that they even continued poking the israeli's.

Iran should have gone all out against Israel when israel went after Hezbollah. Afterall they were next in line. Why not open two fronts and stress their resources.

Now its upto China. They either wait or go invade Taiwan.

Contrast them with Nato Response.
They tied Russian in Ukraine. When it became apparent that russia is now firmly tied in ukraine. They ventured into middle east. One by one they took out russian influence. Hamas done, Hezbollah done, syria done, Iran will be soon, protected porkies form our bashing, pressured us on east using Kanglus.

Americans are one by one shaping the battlespace while chongs are waiting and waiting and waiting. Chongs bet on deindustrializing Rest of the world is also not going as per the plan. The more they wait even other neutral countries will say enough is enough with chong supply lines.
If Iran or china fall we are next in line
They will decimate Asia
 
One thing I am not able to understand…

Why the fck chinis are not starting Taiwan campaign when … USA is involved in multiple regions with almost zero support from allies


India wont do a shit also



this is the best time for eleven ching ping to take over Taiwan
Coz The US and China are having hand in Glove with each other. Elon transferred Battery Tech. not for Taiwan invasion. Rich are united against Poor. Even if Tesla sales Tanks, Elon & Co. make money from Battery tech royalty. Duland and Elong making fool of their own deep state to say the least.
 
Hezbollah should have gone all out when Israel invaded Gaza in operation against Hamas. What was the point to wait? They knew they were next. on top of that they even continued poking the israeli's.

Iran should have gone all out against Israel when israel went after Hezbollah. Afterall they were next in line. Why not open two fronts and stress their resources.
Partly agree, but we are saying this in hindsight. At that point in time, Hamas and Hezbollah were gloating with the raging success of October attacks. They underestimated Israel's resolve (not capability), since Bibi was reeling from domestic policy attacks of opposition.

Iran did try to go all out, but it did so through proxies, which, was taken out due to resolve miscalculation. Israel and Bibi deserves full credit for this. They have already won the
Hamas round
Hezbollah round
Gaza round

It is completely logical for them to go after Iran. There is no dearth in justification for war.

However, one thing they can't do is create a conflagration and then involve the USA. The jew is completely unwelcome to do that. Rest, he can do whatever he likes to defend Israel.
 
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Party agree, but we are saying this in hindsight. At that point in time, Hamas and Hezbollah were gloating with the raging success of October attacks. They underestimated Israel's resolve (not capability), since Bibi was reeling from domestic policy attacks of opposition.

Iran did try to go all out, but it did so through proxies, which, was taken out due to resolve miscalculation. Israel and Bibi deserves full credit for this. They have already won the
Hamas round
Hezbollah round
Gaza round

It is completely logical for them to go after Iran. There is no dearth in justification for war.

However, one thing they can't do is create a conflagration and then involve the USA. The jew is completely unwelcome to do that. Rest, he can do whatever he likes to defend Israel.
Yeah, Thanks for pointing out the miscalculation on resolve front. But i don't know how could they not see it? It was evident to most of us here atleast.

Sometimes, i think they were fooled by the Woke protests. It hoodwinked them into thinking US will put pressure on israelis to freeze the operation. But than when have US govts. cared about it? They use it as a tool.
 
Let us wait and see who will be first us or chinese. If us it will be through porkies and Kanglus. The real biggest threat from them is their horde. Subconventional threat.
Their hordes that are sitting inside your borders would do massive damage to everything we hold dear while their conventional and political force would attack us in their senates and universities
 
Chinese are doing the mistake committed by Hezbollah and Iran.

Hezbollah should have gone all out when Israel invaded Gaza in operation against Hamas. What was the point to wait? They knew they were next. on top of that they even continued poking the israeli's.

Iran should have gone all out against Israel when israel went after Hezbollah. Afterall they were next in line. Why not open two fronts and stress their resources.

Now its upto China. They either wait or go invade Taiwan.

Contrast them with Nato Response.
They tied Russian in Ukraine. When it became apparent that russia is now firmly tied in ukraine. They ventured into middle east. One by one they took out russian influence. Hamas done, Hezbollah done, syria done, Iran will be soon, protected porkies form our bashing, pressured us on east using Kanglus.

Americans are one by one shaping the battlespace while chongs are waiting and waiting and waiting. Chongs bet on deindustrializing Rest of the world is also not going as per the plan. The more they wait even other neutral countries will say enough is enough with chong supply lines.

hezbollah is not just a paramilitary organisation, they are also a quasi gormint which has a "tax" collection, financial network, business conglomerate and permit system with in lebanon. they don't have a death wish, they will seek to live for another day.

muricans placed their carrier group to deter hezbollah from escalating, when israel was going after hamas. same with iran, murican and jordanian AD systems shot down a few salvos of missiles coming from iran towards israel, while gaza was happening.


while gaza is not a country, lebanon and iran are, there are international rules they have to comply with.

 
Let us wait and see who will be first us or chinese. If us it will be through porkies and Kanglus. The real biggest threat from them is their horde. Subconventional threat.
India and china both can defend better then all world combined.
West can hold both india and china down separately but cant defeat them completely.

PAkistan existence is the biggest threat for bharat and will be in future india should complete its strategy of completely finishing pakistan on world map by hook or crook.

China is a diffferent story we cant defeat them they cant defeat us our best defence will be tightly defending our border with good infrastructure and posing a detterance against them or to tie them up where there economy gets dependent on us.
 
Chinese are doing the mistake committed by Hezbollah and Iran.

The Chinese will move only if they're totally prepared to do so convinced that come what may they WILL succeed against Taiwan irrespective the US & it's allies interfere directly or otherwise. This is a do or die situation for them or at least it is so for Xi Jinping.

That's a 100 times better than being unprepared or underprepared like Iran or Paxtan respectively were when undertaking what they did.
Hezbollah should have gone all out when Israel invaded Gaza in operation against Hamas. What was the point to wait? They knew they were next. on top of that they even continued poking the israeli's.

Iran should have gone all out against Israel when israel went after Hezbollah. Afterall they were next in line. Why not open two fronts and stress their resources.

I think it's becoming amply clear that none of these organisations had the wherewithal to challenge Israel if the latter got into its elements.

Beginning 2006 when Israel withdrew from Lebanon in what the ME tried to portray as an Israeli defeat to Hezbollah , the Israelis got back to the drawing board to see where it went wrong. They had 17 years to plan out Hezbollah's destruction which they utilised rather well.

As far as Iran goes , going by recent events , Israel would've taken them on even otherwise going by Iran's repeated attempts to undermine Israel's security . Their N programs acted only as a red rag to the Israelis.

To the latter's luck the Iranians with their proxies staged the October 2023 attacks & precipitated their own downfall. Of course a good deal of what I'm writing is hindsight.

But it's inconceivable Israel , the US & Europe didn't have a plan to take down the Iranian NWP or even their regime just that Obummer onwards they didn't pursue that option for one reason or another & the Iranians got smug thinking they'd deterred the West & Israel given it's network of proxies.

Now its upto China. They either wait or go invade Taiwan.

Contrast them with Nato Response.
They tied Russian in Ukraine. When it became apparent that russia is now firmly tied in ukraine. They ventured into middle east. One by one they took out russian influence. Hamas done, Hezbollah done, syria done, Iran will be soon, protected porkies form our bashing, pressured us on east using Kanglus.

Russia is a curious case. The aim seems to have been to prevent the Russians team up with the Chinese when the west moved against them in a confrontation. The alternative view is the Biden administration undertook what they did in Ukraine with a view to tie down Russia , increase the dependency of their European allies on the US & cripple the EU's economy by forcing a breakdown in their energy dependency on Russia.

The US was never comfortable with the EU's emerging economic clout for that's usually a prelude to independent decision making . That's what the French were planning since long with ze Germans except Merkel was ambivalent about the entire thing.
With the UK out of the EU , the US lost leverage over the EU given the UK has always played a spoiler to the EU becoming more independent in its decision making unaligned to the US's policies.

There's another school of view that Biden given his old ties to China undertook what he did in the Ukraine Russia affair so that the US would focus on Russia instead of China. There was an ample bipartisan Cold Warrior lobby in the US who wanted Russia cut down to size who willingly obliged.

Americans are one by one shaping the battlespace while chongs are waiting and waiting and waiting. Chongs bet on deindustrializing Rest of the world is also not going as per the plan. The more they wait even other neutral countries will say enough is enough with chong supply lines.
The US's enemies are down but by no means out. If I was a senior CCP functionary I'd see all elements ranged against the US & potentially my allies are either tied down or were more hype than substance.

I'd also know if my goal is to take Taiwan & cement my legacy as one of the greats in Chinese history the window of opportunity is closing more so since in any case the US is determined to undermine all its rivals one way or another .

Hence as soon as I'm in position to move I'd do so. From our PoV , suits us to see a US buoyed by recent successes willing to take on a China & a CCP thinking it's time to rule the world has come .

Our only problem is Leaderji hasn't prepared our defences adequately. It's what we know as adha dadhi. Had we done so probably we'd have deterred the Chinese. If the Chinese decide they want a little practice match with us to test preparedness , we're in for a lot of fun.

Then again no nation has occupied top spot in the world without proving itself in war . We need it more than anyone else primarily to shed our pacifism which has sapped the masculinity of our leadership & Sanatan society (something the Israelis vowed they'd never succumb to after they emerged from the holocaust. Hence permanent wars for permanent peace ) .

This is essential for our character development , when the existential wars begin in the sub continent .
 
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Too much speculation, too little actual analysis. On a thread dedicated to Iran-Israel conflict, everything other than the conflict itself is being discussed. Every thought spirals into a rant. The discourse here has reached barbershop and chai ki tapri levels. If this is the level of insight we're offering, maybe mods should just close down this defence forum.
 
I still can't get over how insanely CUCKED the chongs are. Not even a strongly worded statement...
Chinese are doing the right thing by being silent.

they are doing what is best for them - stay out of the regional mess and keep pumping iron to take back taiwan and face US eventually . Simply not worth losing hardware for faraway mullahs that don't affect them directly.
 
hezbollah is not just a paramilitary organisation, they are also a quasi gormint which has a "tax" collection, financial network, business conglomerate and permit system with in lebanon. they don't have a death wish, they will seek to live for another day.

muricans placed their carrier group to deter hezbollah from escalating, when israel was going after hamas. same with iran, murican and jordanian AD systems shot down a few salvos of missiles coming from iran towards israel, while gaza was happening.


while gaza is not a country, lebanon and iran are, there are international rules they have to comply with.

I know what hezbollah is. If you are so scared about the battle why even poke the giant?? Its not like Israeli's have not made their intent clear. Israelis have publicly and multiple times made their intent clear. Still, Mullah and Hezbollah continued the antagonistic rhetoric. What they were expecting in return?? Israel will wet itself??

Take the cue from Pakistan. Once Modiji made it clear that India will bring justice to the families of murdered Hindu tourists in Pahalgam. The porkies went on overdrive to distance and play victim. Have you even seen a terrorist organization issue a statement of auditing itself and retracting back from its earlier claims???
But no Hezbollah and Mullah with their power of Allah had to chimp.
 
Too much speculation, too little actual analysis. On a thread dedicated to Iran-Israel conflict, everything other than the conflict itself is being discussed. Every thought spirals into a rant. The discourse here has reached barbershop and chai ki tapri levels. If this is the level of insight we're offering, maybe mods should just close down this defence forum.
Maybe you should find a nearby barbershop to spend time then.
 
I know what hezbollah is. If you are so scared about the battle why even poke the giant?? Its not like Israeli's have not made their intent clear. Israelis have publicly and multiple times made their intent clear. Still, Mullah and Hezbollah continued the antagonistic rhetoric. What they were expecting in return?? Israel will wet itself??

Take the cue from Pakistan. Once Modiji made it clear that India will bring justice to the families of murdered Hindu tourists in Pahalgam. The porkies went on overdrive to distance and play victim. Have you even seen a terrorist organization issue a statement of auditing itself and retracting back from its earlier claims???
But no Hezbollah and Mullah with their power of Allah had to chimp.

perhaps it is wise to see for what it is rather than what you want to see, it's up to you.

if you have time to spare, take the initiative, go down the rabbit hole with an open mind and find out why hezbollah behaves the way they do, and share with other members what you have discovered/learnt.
 

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