Israel x Iran Conflict (122 Viewers)

[spikey360]

We need baathist Iraq back. Iraqi army was basically arab version of indian army in iran iraq war.

Iraqi people were grade A stuff. The US couldn't flame out the insurgency there and fled. There's a lot of strength in a people whose ancestors live in a land for 5000 years.
Compared to a rag tag pot purie land called America(North and South ) where bastards and bastardisations are norm.

 

[snakeeyes07]

So we are back to the same state as yesterday? Iran launching missiles at Israel and Israel launching air strikes. Iran is just going to ignore US entry in this conflict.


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[spikey360]

Yes most people here have never been to Israel or had real interaction with Jews. They don’t like anyone except their own.
They have no idea of Indian love for them. If it will benefit them they will request USA to bomb india .
But ironically religion is bigger issue with Iran. We are fine being a republic nation with secular roots but they are orthodox Muslim.
In reality they will never like us.
But in the end which country benefit india more : answer is simple Iran. Unfortunately we might as well someday be USA enemy. Iran would have been great alliance against Pakistan.
How is this different from Russia nato ( ukraine) war ? Infect Russia has solid reasons to fight for it’s own safety.
Btw this war is nowhere close to end. Regime change is possible but very hard .

That's why I say, down with people like RETD maj Gaurav Arya and people who buy and support his narrative.

 

[Cheepek]

A nuclear Iran headed by crazy mullahs would've been a big headache for India, if not today then for sure tomorrow. The smaller the number of nuclear states, the better. Especially around us. Maybe somewhere in the Latin Americas someone wants to go nuclear, be my guest. But not here. Try to think a bit more critically. Ties b/w nations are dynamic and not static. A pre Mullah Iran had ties w/ India, so will post Mullah Iran. No point sulking as observers.

 

[KumaoniReborn]

Pre Mullah Iran was very anti India and supported pakistan throughout

A nuclear Iran headed by crazy mullahs would've been a big headache for India, if not today then for sure tomorrow. The smaller the number of nuclear states, the better. Especially around us. Maybe somewhere in the Latin Americas someone wants to go nuclear, be my guest. But not here. Try to think a bit more critically. Ties b/w nations are dynamic and not static. A pre Mullah Iran had ties w/ India, so will post Mullah Iran. No point sulking as observers.

 

[Ajayant Tripathi]

Mullah regime is untithetical to us in long run. They are sponsors of terrorism, radicalizm and jihadism. Its this mentality which has actually caused a lot of strife in India. Radical muslims sabotage India's growth story. Their votebank politics has lead to regression in our law enforcement. Their ghettos provide safe shelter to criminals. They steal and encroach on public resources. They selectively target Hindu civilians.

So, Yes, I am in support of downfall of Mullah regime. I don't care who is responsible for it. OTH i don't care what jews think about us. They are not our neighbor. But they proven helpful to us. They have multiple times in past provided us valuable resources.

So, Yes, My support is to israel.

 

[Ajayant Tripathi]

Pre Mullah Iran was very anti India and supported pakistan throughout

Who cares thats past. It should not be the reason to keep mullah in place. Mullah has not been good faith actor either. Its just weak and its compulsions mean it has to tolerate India. Thats it.

 

[snakeeyes07]

Pre Mullah Iran was very anti India and supported pakistan throughout

I don't think the Shia-Sunni divide was the same level during 1970's than it is now. It started worsening from late 1980's and has been getting worst with time.

 

[Drwho]

why do every fanatic support this Iran invasion? Who do think will be next in line. Another india ally?
Don’t you guys see new equation forming. Pakistan is supporting with most Israel conflict. USA will make sure they get Israel Pakistan alliance if they ever need. Both of them are their own pets.
China USA can’t be enemy they have trade and money as their relationship foundations.

Look at Armenia- Ajarbaijan, Russia nato and Iran USA . A new world order is forming. Who are supported by india, Israel or Pakistan.
Being silent or sitting on fence is not a good option.
people are like f35 ayega. But how ? At what cost and what time. They haven’t even provided or fulfilled our previous order. We have decline in india USA trade relationship. Also diplomatic relationship.
What about stab in back during operation sindoor by USA . Thy openly support Pakistan since day 1.

Also how can we be anti muslim nation? We have big Muslim population. We can choose to be not involved with orthodox nations but we can’t just be Israel. They have zero Muslim population.

 

[Captscooby]

They are not gonna intercept every missile, some missile which are calculated to hit relatively unpopulated areas are ignored, during wartime you will have to prioritise what to protect.

This will be the real headache for us , if you see very clearly in Op Sind we didn't have the capability to track the place of impact of incoming projectiles and we are forced to intercept everything every single fucking thing because we don't know the point of impact . We seriously have to work on this as soon as possible so that next time we don't deplete our AD inventory when multiple CM and BMs are fired ..Suicide drones or those small drones can still been taken care by AD Guns but CM and BMs we need to depend on our SAMs .

 

[Ajayant Tripathi]

So, the US successfully bombed the Iranian Nuclear facilities. I think it was the only most difficult part of the operation. So, I think it will be now safe to conclude that Mullah lost this war. Its matter of days when they fold. I don't think mullah have any surprise hidden anymore. They are now at israeli mercy.

 

[Cheepek]

Pre Mullah Iran was very anti India and supported Pakistan throughout

If someone doesn't want to be friends with you then it is not your fault. You put the blame of everything on yourself as if you are supposed to have control on all external stimuli, and the other person has no agency of their own.
So if someone wants to be anti-India it is their choice, the only thing you can do is try to influence them or respond to them as per your capacity.

 

[snakeeyes07]

I don't think the Shia-Sunni divide was the same level during 1970's than it is now. It started worsening from late 1980's and has been getting worst with time.

Even re regime change, I don't think Shah's son can come back, Shah is still unpopular in Iran. Opposition for Mullah regime doesn't mean that they want Shah's son to be the king.

If Mullah regime is topped then it will most likely be liberal and pluralistic elements already in Iran which will takeover.

 

[Doreamon]

Yes they should have invested heavily with china. To gain some regional leverage. Yes !

Giving port to india was an irritant. Yes!

If they had deal with some china economy, china will initiate some reply to save their own investment. Yes!

Pakistan have ladoo in both hand. They have gains from USA and china both . Yes!

You have understanding problem or reading. Instead tu mere ko ulta bol ra hai. Ajeeb insaan hai. Why are you in forum if u have problem to accept point of views or read others post.

In 2021 china has signed a partnership with Iran to invest 400 bl dollars . Their investment plans in iran dwarfs indian investment by multiple times .. China is Iran's largest trading partner . Iran imports raw materials for its ballistic missiles from China . Chinese were involved in Iranian nuclear program which got destroyed as well . The Ishafan plant is chinese design . Chinese companies involved in uranium mining in iran . They have been supporting program since 1990s .

Chinese are not coming to save iran . Their own embassy was bombed by USA in 1999 . They did nothing . Your logics are twisted . Don't expect india to support or provide help to any country for your twisted bias or some personal geopolitical aspiration .

 

[KumaoniReborn]

If someone doesn't want to be friends with you then it is not your fault. You put the blame of everything on yourself as if you are supposed to have control on all external stimuli, and the other person has no agency of their own.
So if someone wants to be anti-India it is their choice, the only thing you can do is try to influence them.

Who cares thats past. It should not be the reason to keep mullah in place. Mullah has not been good faith actor either. Its just weak and its compulsions mean it has to tolerate India. Thats it.

Arey they were only anti India cuz they were part of CENTO with US and Pak.

It was only under mullah regime we got closer tho surprisingly

 

[KumaoniReborn]

why do every fanatic support this Iran invasion? Who do think will be next in line. Another india ally?
Don’t you guys see new equation forming. Pakistan is supporting with most Israel conflict. USA will make sure they get Israel Pakistan alliance if they ever need. Both of them are their own pets.
China USA can’t be enemy they have trade and money as their relationship foundations.

Look at Armenia- Ajarbaijan, Russia nato and Iran USA . A new world order is forming.
Being silent or sitting on fence is not a good option.
people are like f35 ayega. But how ? At what cost and what time. They haven’t even provided or fulfilled our previous order. We have decline in india USA trade relationship. Also diplomatic relationship.
What about stab in back during operation sindoor by USA . Thy openly support Pakistan since day 1.

Also how can we be anti muslim nation? We have big Muslim population. We can choose to be not involved with orthodox nations but we can’t just be Israel. They have zero Muslim population.

Muslim Bad so Israeli loves us mentality

 

[spikey360]

Mullah regime is untithetical to us in long run. They are sponsors of terrorism, radicalizm and jihadism. Its this mentality which has actually caused a lot of strife in India. Radical muslims sabotage India's growth story. Their votebank politics has lead to regression in our law enforcement. Their ghettos provide safe shelter to criminals. They steal and encroach on public resources. They selectively target Hindu civilians.

Inadequate and thoroughly colour blind statement, friend.
There are thousands of divisions in Islam. Instead of widening the crevasse, you are advocating we put them in one basket and strengthen it. We need a Shia bomb to counterbalanced a Sunni bomb. That's how you mind-fuck 2 billion people into proving the superiority of their own tribe and dissuade them from going all out against non believer tribes.
Look at how we are perfectly ok with the Taliban in Afghanistan. They are pliable and they need money. They condemn Pahalgam, they condemn Pakistan, they give anal treatment to Pakistan in NWFP whenever required. You are telling me all this leverage is worth nothing and we are wasting our money building schools, dams and libraries in Afghanistan and airlifting rice and medicines for them?

As for domestic muslims, it's a law and order problem involving compromised politicians. No point blaming Iranians, Pakistanis and Afghanistan.

 

[Drwho]

In 2021 china has signed a partnership with Iran to invest 400 bl dollars . Their investment plans in iran dwarfs indian investment by multiple times .. China is Iran's largest trading partner . Iran imports raw materials for its ballistic missiles from China . Chinese were involved in Iranian nuclear program which got destroyed as well . The Ishafan plant is chinese design . Chinese companies involved in uranium mining in iran . They have been supporting program since 1990s .

Chinese are not coming to save iran . Their own embassy was bombed by USA in 1999 . They did nothing . Your logics are twisted . Don't expect india to support or provide help to any country for your twisted bias or some personal geopolitical aspiration .

No friggin way brother. India can’t get involved in this pile of shyt storm. Absolutely I agree.
But as for that agreement it was draft and not fully signed co operation. Also china haven’t invested own money thoroughly to have big reasons to get involved.
You gave valid reasons to think other wise but
I still don’t think china Iran relationship was as strong as it could have been.

 

[ezsasa]

A nuclear Iran headed by crazy mullahs would've been a big headache for India, if not today then for sure tomorrow. The smaller the number of nuclear states, the better. Especially around us. Maybe somewhere in the Latin Americas someone wants to go nuclear, be my guest. But not here. Try to think a bit more critically. Ties b/w nations are dynamic and not static. A pre Mullah Iran had ties w/ India, so will post Mullah Iran. No point sulking as observers.

we get to see why U.S DoD invests so much in making sure iran does not go nuclear.
in eurasia, if iran goes nuclear it becomes a almost full circle of contiguous nuclear armed states.




note : apologies for the improper India map.

 

[KumaoniReborn]

Inadequate and thoroughly colour blind statement.
There are thousands of divisions in Islam. Instead of widening the crevasse, you are advocating we put them in one basket and strengthen it. We need a Shia bomb to counterbalanced a Sunni bomb. That's how you mind-fuck 2 billion people into proving the superiority of their own tribe and dissuade them from going all out against non believer tribes.
Look at how we are perfectly ok with the Taliban in Afghanistan. They are pliable and they need money. They condemn Pahalgam, they condemn Pakistan, they give anal treatment to Pakistan in NWFP whenever required. You are telling me all this leverage is worth nothing and we are wasting our money building schools, dams and libraries in Afghanistan and airlifting rice and medicines for them?

Unfortunately voices of us (educated Indians) are a minority and the Israeli Slave brigade dominates twitter