Israel x Iran Conflict (72 Viewers)

A deal of some sort will be signed whether in public or secret the bomb materiel will go. The mullahs will survive this but expect a soft coup the moment khamenei croaks due to cancer in the coming years. That is when i think izz-not-real will actually try the regime change. Overall this ended in the nest way it could have ended for us!

I doubt this is the end yet. Iranian Parliament just approved the closing of the Strait of Hormuz. If Iran has the Naval capacity to actually implement this successfully is another debate but they sure as hell have a bunch of support from non state actors in that naval sector. So expect some kind of naval tensions in that region. It'll be interesting to see what IN does, because they are a major player in that region.

Also, I doubt the missile volleys are gonna stop. Even if the US stops, Israel is in no mood. And the US strikes, while rather inconsequential on ground, added to the Ayatollah's local support. The general Iranian public might be disgruntled with the regime, but they hate the US with every bone in their body.

Israel plans to end the conflict this weekend. That means they have planned action for atleast the next 5-6 days.

The US essentially just tried to repeat what India did on the May 10th. Unfortunately, they forget that Iranians aren't the gutter chaap beggars that Pakistan are. Iranians are honourable people. They'll fight till the last missile.
 
I compared satellite images of Pakistani bases after Indian strikes with those of Iranian bases following American attacks, and it’s clear that Trump is bluffing. The damage to Pakistani bases after the Indian strikes is clearly visible, whereas there are no visible signs of damage to Iranian bases.
 
As I have said earlier, this war has nothing to do with denuclearization of Iran; if this was the goal USA would have never backed out of the treaty under which IAEA was routinely inspecting Iranian nuclear facilities.
War was principally over Satanyahu's political future which neatly dovetailed into his long standing wish of de nuclearising Iran.

The opportunity presented itself given the incidents of October 2023 & its aftermath & Satanyahu seized it.

JCPOA was never about halting Iran's NWP, it was about delaying it . IAEA was denied access to Fordow following US withdrawal from the JCPOA.


"Iran implemented a significant change to the declared design information for the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP) without informing the agency in advance. This was contrary to Iran’s obligations under its safeguards agreement,” Grossi said.


The IAEA also said it had found uranium particles at Fordow enriched to 83.7 percent purity – close to the 90 percent enrichment needed for weapons-grade uranium.


“At the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant, we found particles of high enriched uranium with enrichment levels well beyond the enrichment level declared by Iran,” Grossi said on March 6, 2023.

This war is about pacifying Iran so that Israel can acquire the regional hegemony. As of now, Iran is the only Muslim country that poses a challenge to Israeli hegemony in the region.
Or it could also tie into US neutralising successive regimes it believes will become aggressive once it goes up against China for it'd be near impossible for the US to dedicate assets & fight in different theaters while confronting China.
If Iran really wanted to build nuclear bombs, they would never have signed NPT as a non-nuclear weapons state.
That was during the Shah of Iran's reign - a vassal of the US. The entire dynamic changed with the Islamic Revolution. If the question is why didn't Iran quit the NPT earlier.

Well that was the eventual plan & had they quit the NPT earlier, Iran would've faced what it's facing now.

To that extent, DPRK played the game well. While they indulged in a lot of rhetoric their entire game was focused on RoK & Japan. By not making public statements frequently or indulging in the kind of spectacular acts of terrorism Iran & it's proxies did against Israel & the West especially the US, they escaped the spotlight.

By the time they became the focus of Western attention in the early 2000s , they were already a N power either on the verge of testing a N device or had already tested it. Shortly after that they quit the NPT.

Of course China played a huge role in DPRK getting NW & then helped birth the unholy alliance between Paxtan & DPRK thus acquiring the status of plausible deniability. We know what that all this led to.
 
China never sold India uranium after the Pokhran -II tests.



It was before these N tests in 1995 after IAEA approval. Those were some of rare years of Sino Indian bonhomie where we also signed those agreements to maintain peace & tranquility on the border.

The thinking in Beijing was it was time to de hyphenate Paxtan & India especially since China was strategically no longer important to the west as the USSR had fallen.

The Gulf War 1 had also just occurred . China was seeking to build an alliance network of like minded nations across the world.

However mutual suspicions were too deep for anything beyond cursory measures - basically bare minimum measures to result in anything substantial.

Another reason China would not undertake what you're suggesting then was the US leaked ABVs letter to Clinton where he openly stated India had to test as we needed NW to guard against any future Chinese aggression.
And on Iranian telegram groups they are saying, West gave india the bomb . And we didn't develop them on our own accord.
Thus they if Iranians make up bomb , then West will arm saudi, turki etc against Iran. Like they gave bomb to India against China.
Kya log hai ye, seriously there is something tremendously wrong with the average Iranian, they are not only delusional but believe in their falsehoods to such an extent , ki they often give pakistan a run for it money .
Koi inko batao, ki india ne kaise bomb banaya aur aaj ke era me india chahe to pure ke pure Iran ko dhool me Mila sakta hai .
Inki sejil, aur anth shant missile udne se pehle .
Agni 5 ki speed , 29,000 km/h hai terminal phase me, inko hamari mirv ke baare me abhi bhi nai pata .
Bhai Inka ye haal hamesha hota rahega, till they think pakistan defeated us decisively.
Therefore, I completely change my point now : ISRAEL GO , DESTROY THE TERRORIST REGIME IN TEHRAN .
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And on Iranian telegram groups they are saying, West gave india the bomb . And we didn't develop them on our own accord.
Thus they if Iranians make up bomb , then West will arm saudi, turki etc against Iran. Like they gave bomb to India against China.
Kya log hai ye, seriously there is something tremendously wrong with the average Iranian, they are not only delusional but believe in their falsehoods to such an extent , ki they often give pakistan a run for it money .
Koi inko batao, ki india ne kaise bomb banaya aur aaj ke era me india chahe to pure ke pure Iran ko dhool me Mila sakta hai .
Inki sejil, aur anth shant missile udne se pehle .
Agni 5 ki speed , 29,000 km/h hai terminal phase me, inko hamari mirv ke baare me abhi bhi nai pata .
Bhai Inka ye haal hamesha hota rahega, till they think pakistan defeated us decisively. Lol
Kya pagal log hai yaar. Par asaphal admi ko lagta hai ki woh saphal nhi hua to dusra banda jo saphal hua hai usne cheating Kia hoga. Par usko kaun samjhaye ki bhai tune to padhai thikse nhi Kia.

Bklo ko koi samjhao bas missile hi nhi banana hota diplomacy karna bhi sikhna padta hai to fool your enemies enough to buy some time for making nukes. and India did all of that on its own.
 
I did not say that Iran was the best equipped Muslim country. I said that Iran is the only Muslim country which poses a challenge to Israeli (and US by extension) hegemony. Saudi and Qatar are "good boys", because they both toe the Israeli lines. Why would anyone have problem with "good boys" ?
Thats just a temporary arrangement, their population is extremely genocidal against Israel.

They are supporting burgers and israel because shias are apparently bigger kafirs than jews, iran was also raising shia militia which was concerning for them.
 
The whole world is full of chicken hearted leaders .. Imagine the disdain that would have been felt by WW2 era leaders
They had a heart of a lion who attacked and defended with ferocity
Leaders today are best doing mujra in front of their audience and ask for votes ..
Yes Hitler was a drug addict and a delusional.
Stalin was an insomanic.
Winston Churchill was a drunk almost every waking moment.
Tojo was a Buddhist supremacist
 
And on Iranian telegram groups they are saying, West gave india the bomb . And we didn't develop them on our own accord.
Thus they if Iranians make up bomb , then West will arm saudi, turki etc against Iran. Like they gave bomb to India against China.
Kya log hai ye, seriously there is something tremendously wrong with the average Iranian, they are not only delusional but believe in their falsehoods to such an extent , ki they often give pakistan a run for it money .
Koi inko batao, ki india ne kaise bomb banaya aur aaj ke era me india chahe to pure ke pure Iran ko dhool me Mila sakta hai .
Inki sejil, aur anth shant missile udne se pehle .
Agni 5 ki speed , 29,000 km/h hai terminal phase me, inko hamari mirv ke baare me abhi bhi nai pata .
Bhai Inka ye haal hamesha hota rahega, till they think pakistan defeated us decisively.
Therefore, I completely change my point now : ISRAEL GO , DESTROY THE TERRORIST REGIME IN TEHRAN .
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Baalak, yun ke aapko yadi UPSC mein awwal number chahiye aur IAS mein daakhla toh angrezi ka prayog kare warna Indian Forest Service se tasalli lena hoga.

Aur Iran mein pracheen kaal se matlab Islam ke aagman ke pehle se hi bhai behen, pita beti, maa beta vivaah ke liye badnaam the. Aur yeh keval raj gharanon mein nahin hota tha, aam naagrik bhi is mein shaamil the.

Ab yeh kis hadh tak prachlit tha is par vivaad gain. Haalaat kuch aise the ki jab Arab wahaan aaye toh woh bhi dang reh gaye.

Ab socho, jo khud apne chachere mamere behenon se nika'h karte ho, apne godh liye hue bete ki talaq shuda biwi se nika'h karnewaale dang ho jaaye Farsiyon ke misaaj dekh kar toh masha allah SWT, Farsiyon ka kya hi kehna.

Yeh sab jo tumne vistrit kiya uska mool kaaran yahi hain.

Alhamdulillah & Astaghfirullah!
 
The whole world is full of chicken hearted leaders .. Imagine the disdain that would have been felt by WW2 era leaders
They had a heart of a lion who attacked and defended with ferocity
Leaders today are best doing mujra in front of their audience and ask for votes ..

Their disdain matters very little. Leaders during the World Wars were all megalomaniacs. Being concerned about economic security while conducting limited military campaigns is WAY better than pushing the youth of the country into a War.
In fact, pretty much all leaders of both sides during the Second World War had fought in the First World War. These were disgruntled men with a god complex of having survived a world war, who projected their personal biases onto their whole nation's diaspora.
They weren't lion hearts. If anything, they were all genocidal maniacs.

In today's context, you can see similar glimpses in people like Netanyahu and Putin. The world knows how Putin's ambitions are playing out. And Netanyahu can be this gung ho only because the West is a sucker for Jewish manipulation.
 
Baalak, yun ke aapko yadi UPSC mein awwal number chahiye aur IAS mein daakhla toh angrezi ka prayog kare warna Indian Forest Service se tasalli lena hoga.

Aur Iran mein pracheen kaal se matlab Islam ke aagman ke pehle se hi bhai behen, pita beti, maa beta vivaah ke liye badnaam the. Aur yeh keval raj gharanon mein nahin hota tha, aam naagrik bhi is mein shaamil the.

Ab yeh kis hadh tak prachlit tha is par vivaad gain. Haalaat kuch aise the ki jab Arab wahaan aaye toh woh bhi dang reh gaye.

Ab socho, jo khud apne chachere mamere behenon se nika'h karte ho, apne godh liye hue bete ki talaq shuda biwi se nika'h karnewaale dang ho jaaye Farsiyon ke misaaj dekh kar toh masha allah SWT, Farsiyon ka kya hi kehna.

Yeh sab jo tumne vistrit kiya uska mool kaaran yahi hain.

Alhamdulillah & Astaghfirullah!
Alamgullullah paijaan apka knawledge to kamal ka hai.
Lagta h aap bhi prophet k sahaba m se ek hai
 

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