LCA TEJAS MK-I & MK-IA: News and Discussion

[randombully]

Thank you for the correction! I didn't know that the AN/ALQ-99 is capable of generating its own power via a Ram Air Turbine. The Growler can carry a maximum of 5 such jammers which is pretty impressive to say the least.

In my opinion while having jammers which can generate electricity for themselves without burdening the aircraft's main power supply is a major plus, Certain situations which demand the EA-18 to give out it's absolute maximum jamming power output to completely overwhelm the enemy's radars can have electricity be utilised from the aircraft's main power supply to maximize the jamming strength. Please note that this is just my educated guess aka my two cents.

As mentioned earlier, the ALQ-99 is able to meet its power requirements via a Ram Air Turbine (RAT) located on the front of each pod but what if during a mission flight, one or more of the ALQ-99 TJS pods develop some malfunction due to which the RAT is not functioning anymore and as a result the jammer pods are not getting any electricity to run on? In that case I am sure that the pilot of the Growler will have to re-rout electricity from the aircraft's main power supply to run the jammers to compensate for the same.

I am certain the engineers who designed and built the EA-18 must have taken such a scenario into consideration. In aviation mishaps and catastrophes happen, anything can happen. This is again just an educated guess of mine.

Coming back to the topic of the LCA Tejas being used as a SEAD platform, I am sure that a twin seater version of the MWF would prove to be sufficient but I will still stick to my opinion that it is always a stealth aircraft like the AMCA which will be the most ideal in carrying such operations.

Anyways this is my last post on the topic, looks we have gone way off topic on the LCA Thread .We can open a dedicated thread to discuss SEAD, DEAD missions and platforms. Peace out!

Your right about stealth, but manned expensive Stealth aircraft like amca will be like a large beacon saying "hey I'm here" when doing jamming, that's why future "tactical" jamming role will be transferred to cheaper stealth loyal wingman, like cats warrior.

 

[randombully]

thats the issue, hal is getting raja beta treatment from govt all the time, some amount of belt treatment is needed, or else super sukhoi would also become a retirement plan project for those babus

Once again
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HAL can't start upgrade/manufacturing unless the systems going in super sukhoi upgrade are "developed and certified".

 

[liberalredditor]

Your right about stealth, but manned expensive Stealth aircraft like amca will be like a large beacon saying "hey I'm here" when doing jamming, that's why future "tactical" jamming role will be transferred to cheaper stealth loyal wingman, like cats warrior.

For jamming, spoofing and ew methods need power right??? Htfe 25 can it satisfy the power needs?

 

[randombully]

For jamming, spoofing and ew methods need power right??? Htfe 25 can it satisfy the power needs?

You can fit a RAT in it, or one time use battery package.

Though it's EW/jamming varient ain't gonna be used for "high energy/wide area jamming".




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[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

You can fit a RAT in it, or one time use battery package.

Though it's EW/jamming varient ain't gonna be used for "high energy/wide area jamming".




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why we r not thinking about EW/jamming varient for CATS warrier?? r we fearing they can jam our own aircraft, drones etc. coz i heard f18 growler also face this problem earlier. CATS warrier should definitely hv a EW jamming varient. so it will become more effective in SEAD nd DEAD missions.

 

[randombully]

why we r not thinking about EW/jamming varient for CATS warrier?? r we fearing they can jam our own aircraft, drones etc. coz i heard f18 growler also face this problem earlier. CATS warrier should definitely hv a EW jamming varient. so it will become more effective in SEAD nd DEAD missions.

We are, The official released video literally shows EW varient, along with decoy, isr and strike varient.

What I was saying is it won't be used for wide area jamming, as required power will be too high.

 

[redpanda]

We are, The official released video literally shows EW varient, along with decoy, isr and strike varient.

What I was saying is it won't be used for wide area jamming, as required power will be too high.

Imagine putting KDE into one of these drones. Like a CATs Omega something like that. Which will be able to either function as a jamming platform or maybe a dedicated BVRAAM launcher...

Or a Jamming platform based on Ghatak UCAV.

 

[randombully]

Can we put Kaveri into one of these drones. Like a CATs Omega something like that.

Kaveri is too big for CATS( ~8kn dry thrust combined) and bigger version of cats that we are developing( will use 25kn dry thrust engine)


You need atleast ghatak category drone to fit Kaveri.


Though I do dream of a bigger version of ghatak with two Kaveri engine and bigger/longer iwb that can fit standoff weapons like rudram series or even cruise missiles,
Our own stealth tactical bomber drone.

 

[liberalredditor]

htfe 25 was said that it would come by 2030, what would happen to the bigger cats then??? it also got sacrificed due to negligence of hal. the larger variant would have been excellent for us to do roles of eccm and missile trucks

 

[Doreamon]

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[randombully]

htfe 25 was said that it would come by 2030, what would happen to the bigger cats then??? it also got sacrificed due to negligence of hal. the larger variant would have been excellent for us to do roles of eccm and missile trucks

also includes Details about progress of htfe 25

After Decade, HAL Struggles to complete 25 kN thrust turbofan engine Program - Indian Defence Research Wing

SOURCE: IDRW.ORG The Hindustan Turbo Fan Engine (HTFE-25), a 25 kN thrust turbofan engine under development by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), represents a cornerstone of India’s ambition to achieve self-reliance in aerospace propulsion technology. Designed to power a variety of...

idrw.org

 

[liberalredditor]

htfe 40 is dead officially then right???

 

[TopWatcher]

htfe 40 is dead officially then right???

It means some problem in our educational institutions that we not able to make aero-engines. People coming out from institution dont have some base understanding it seems.

What may be the else reason, aprt from funding ?

 

[liberalredditor]

It means some problem in our educational institutions that we not able to make aero-engines. People coming out from institution dont have some base understanding it seems.

What may be the else reason, aprt from funding ?

they dont want to recruit people, just look at the vacancies
and also they dont want to pay

but the thing for htfe is that hal wants to develop it on its internal money, which is nearly impossible, you need money in trucks, just go and ask govt, no shame
hal babus just want the project to run till their retirement, first run happened in 2015, and now they are saying that engine would come by 2030

 

[randombully]

It means some problem in our educational institutions that we not able to make aero-engines. People coming out from institution dont have some base understanding it seems.

What may be the else reason, aprt from funding ?

That's a stupid take.

It's mainly funding once again.
The test facility for htfe25 was delayed, along with some machines needed which were also delayed.

Why the fuck every one starts "eDuCaTiOn", rant?

 

[TopWatcher]

That's a stupid take.

It's mainly funding once again.
The test facility for htfe25 was delayed, along with some machines needed which were also delayed.

Why the fuck every one starts "eDuCaTiOn", rant?

Cant some IIT instution have dedicated testing facility.

Something preventing govt from funding testing facilities ?

 

[liberalredditor]

Cant some IIT instution have dedicated testing facility.

Something preventing govt from funding testing facilities ?

iitk has 2 wind tunnels, in the past isro, drdo, and wdb used to come to kanpur for their wind tunnel testing

why these orgs lag is lack of funding and constant babugiri which stops them. for every damn procurement you have to go to babus and get it approved, if they have some personal grudge, they can keep the file stuck for indefinite period. then again man, majority students come from middle class or lower background, for them money is important, govt doesnt give money, like in my branch ie ee, median was 32 lpa, why will any sane person join a 12 lpa drdo job, that too very less vacancy
thats why everyone join sde roles which easily gives 20+, almost in every branch here in kanpur, cse and ee guys if they have coding skills they can easily bag quants/hft roles and even if some one wants to get into core ee, nvidia, ti, samsung, microsoft, mediatek, qualcomm, etc give 30+ lpa
and those who are financially well and want to do research, they move to foreign, reason given - less politics, more respect for researchers from govt and pvt companies, better conditions

everything is interlinked in retaining of talent, drdo, barc, isro and other research org should be delinked from pay commissions and they should be given good testing facility and funds, this alone would make the projects fast tracked

 

[chnvipgz]

It means some problem in our educational institutions that we not able to make aero-engines. People coming out from institution dont have some base understanding it seems.

What may be the else reason, aprt from funding ?

Problem in recruitment due to low merit caste quotas in drdo,hal,isro .We have a tribal woman as president so as per ambedkar we must stop giving low merit quota in science and tech from now on atleast.
Currently low merit quota is around 65 percent hence many iits have started giving seats to science olympiad medallist but many medallist are going foreign universities after studying 1 or 2 year in iits.


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