Modernisation of Indian Army Infantry

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Definitely a peculiar design. Far more restrictive.

Someone took “gotay galay me aa gaye” too seriously

 

[Yuyutsu]

Btw,


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/s/gjcUVkvpWJ


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lol that ruskie is idiot , why would someone add name tag velcro in nether region

 

[TAVOUR 21]

you guys should stop taking these reddditors seriously

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

you guys should stop taking these reddditors seriously

Mereko block kar dia he chini k baja rha tha me..

Now i am banned from commenting.

 

[TAVOUR 21]

Mereko block kar dia he chini k baja rha tha me..

Now i am banned from commenting.

i was banned from military porn a year back

 

[vampyrbladez]

i was banned from military porn a year back

Serves you right!

 

[Unknowncommando]

@Unknowncommando is this a SMPP BPJ?
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Yes slightly lighter and compact than 1.86 Lakh MV-PRO they delivered earlier.


CRPF QAT received it before 2020

 

[johny_baba]

Anyone knows about any feedback about the AK 203s from the troopers?

i remember posting about it last year, even you reacted on that post

So i had a chance to talk with a young padwan + friend of mine after long time on teligram, He's a fresh passout from IAF academy, currently ATC or something like that

I asked him about AK-203, like basic training etc toh sabko milti hi hai...

his replies
> muzzle device works great, recoil management is good, stability is good
> accuracy is also good, he could do 1 inch group at 100 metres
> those rails on handguards are uncomfortable for holding bare-handed, 'specially digs in palms when going prone
> when i asked about utilising that krebs-customs style finger-tabbed fire selector on those AK-203s, he said...

his instructor was from para sf, he would make the cadets do rolling (gulaati maarnaa) as punishment had they dared to use their trigger hand in tactical fashion, like we see in youtube videos, by using fingers to actuate the fire selector

they still insist that soldiers do regular AK fire selection by taking their hand off the handguard, the gripping hand, or that they reload it by taking the gripping hand off and going over-the-top cover to rock the charging handle at opposite side (assuming a shooter is right handed guy here)

my literal reaction was this meme

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so yeah, a little tid-bit of 'modernisation' with AK-203 in the armed forces

for more info, pray to ishwar i get to recover my teligram account in time, as sir is in one group chat i'm part of, and he did give his own insights about SIG716i but in long audio posts, i can ask about AK-203 in similar manner

 

[Corvus Splendens]

And why are these idiots wearing their plate rigs upside down
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nope, they have worn it correctly

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My bad for misunderstanding and prematurely overreacting. But wtf is this setup ?

 

[RocketMan]

What in the clown world is this

 

[vampyrbladez]

View: https://x.com/KonarkCorps/status/1894936284914753915

 

[Unknowncommando]

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

View: https://x.com/vajracorps_ia/status/1894946594606198816?s=46

 

[BlackViking]

People who are new to these defence related stuff might either agree with this Braddy fella that Army don't receive the level of quality they ask for or disagree with him that he's wrong in his assessment.

But only long-time followers would realize that every single word uttered by Blud is an absolute comedy in itself.
> Military Operations are Different
> General Staff Qualitative Requirements
> Production Capacity and Serviceability matters
> Made-up Testimonials

Why!? Well...
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Even I don't trust these guys with trials. Example: Intentionally running Arjun in reverse gear to damage the gear box. While these kind of test were not done on T series. Testing the Stryker in Ladakh only when general requirement is the system needs to be pass all IA conditions like Coastal, Desert etc.

Asking Bayonet in everything from Carbine, Assault Rifle, Sniper Rifle which no sane military today does not care.

No wonder Parrikar called this as Star wars requirement.





Never know that Army is giving QC certifications to products.





I think once the sniper runs out of bullet. He will throw the knife to hit the target in 800m. Obiviously he ate the powerful Indian carrot to gain night vision powers.

The situation is beyond any repair. I'll share a recent experience with y'all.

Spoiler

So there was this tender by a state force asking for triple rail receiver cover for AK, which allows them mounting sights, LAMs and flashlight simultaneously. I know that this requirement is retarded, nevertheless MHA has proper parameters for this thing and the tender states to follow these standards. I have only seen rivetted dust cover like these, chinese one.

I participated in the tender, and even asked for clarification for the item requested, even though we had earlier participated in a similar tender for central forces but it got rejected as it was not upto mark (used a self developed welded cover), uand I knew the product is correct.

During trials I found that they were trialing single rail covers, without notifying vendors on the portal or through the multiple emails I had sent earlier. Also even after everything going excellent during the firing trials, and my product complying the MHA parameters (we had both single and triple rail milled covers) our product was disqualified for no reasons. It turns out the Israeli dalals had fixed everything much earlier.

Now just think about the following,

1. Corruption
2. Even for small components and small tenders Indigenous OEM get sautela behaviour.
3. Afaik no one sells a single piece 3 rail ak dustcover anywhere. We put some effort to design and fabricate it ourselves as no one was willing to fab this citing machining complexities. So how is desi MIC going to establish itself.

 

[IWIarad11]

The situation is beyond any repair. I'll share a recent experience with y'all.

Spoiler

So there was this tender by a state force asking for triple rail receiver cover for AK, which allows them mounting sights, LAMs and flashlight simultaneously. I know that this requirement is retarded, nevertheless MHA has proper parameters for this thing and the tender states to follow these standards. I have only seen rivetted dust cover like these, chinese one.

I participated in the tender, and even asked for clarification for the item requested, even though we had earlier participated in a similar tender for central forces but it got rejected as it was not upto mark (used a self developed welded cover), uand I knew the product is correct.

During trials I found that they were trialing single rail covers, without notifying vendors on the portal or through the multiple emails I had sent earlier. Also even after everything going excellent during the firing trials, and my product complying the MHA parameters (we had both single and triple rail milled covers) our product was disqualified for no reasons. It turns out the Israeli dalals had fixed everything much earlier.

Now just think about the following,

1. Corruption
2. Even for small components and small tenders Indigenous OEM get sautela behaviour.
3. Afaik no one sells a single piece 3 rail ak dustcover anywhere. We put some effort to design and fabricate it ourselves as no one was willing to fab this citing machining complexities. So how is desi MIC going to establish itself.

Sad

 

[Corvus Splendens]

View: https://x.com/vajracorps_ia/status/1894946594606198816?s=46

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

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Looks like either 1987 standoff or 1983 alert deployment from my old mans albums.

 

[ArjunMK1A]

The situation is beyond any repair. I'll share a recent experience with y'all.

Spoiler

So there was this tender by a state force asking for triple rail receiver cover for AK, which allows them mounting sights, LAMs and flashlight simultaneously. I know that this requirement is retarded, nevertheless MHA has proper parameters for this thing and the tender states to follow these standards. I have only seen rivetted dust cover like these, chinese one.

I participated in the tender, and even asked for clarification for the item requested, even though we had earlier participated in a similar tender for central forces but it got rejected as it was not upto mark (used a self developed welded cover), uand I knew the product is correct.

During trials I found that they were trialing single rail covers, without notifying vendors on the portal or through the multiple emails I had sent earlier. Also even after everything going excellent during the firing trials, and my product complying the MHA parameters (we had both single and triple rail milled covers) our product was disqualified for no reasons. It turns out the Israeli dalals had fixed everything much earlier.

Now just think about the following,

1. Corruption
2. Even for small components and small tenders Indigenous OEM get sautela behaviour.
3. Afaik no one sells a single piece 3 rail ak dustcover anywhere. We put some effort to design and fabricate it ourselves as no one was willing to fab this citing machining complexities. So how is desi MIC going to establish itself.

Appreciate your effort man. Better start sales in overseas market.

 

[johny_baba]

The situation is beyond any repair. I'll share a recent experience with y'all.

Spoiler

So there was this tender by a state force asking for triple rail receiver cover for AK, which allows them mounting sights, LAMs and flashlight simultaneously. I know that this requirement is retarded, nevertheless MHA has proper parameters for this thing and the tender states to follow these standards. I have only seen rivetted dust cover like these, chinese one.

I participated in the tender, and even asked for clarification for the item requested, even though we had earlier participated in a similar tender for central forces but it got rejected as it was not upto mark (used a self developed welded cover), uand I knew the product is correct.

During trials I found that they were trialing single rail covers, without notifying vendors on the portal or through the multiple emails I had sent earlier. Also even after everything going excellent during the firing trials, and my product complying the MHA parameters (we had both single and triple rail milled covers) our product was disqualified for no reasons. It turns out the Israeli dalals had fixed everything much earlier.

Now just think about the following,

1. Corruption
2. Even for small components and small tenders Indigenous OEM get sautela behaviour.
3. Afaik no one sells a single piece 3 rail ak dustcover anywhere. We put some effort to design and fabricate it ourselves as no one was willing to fab this citing machining complexities. So how is desi MIC going to establish itself.

brother i'm so sad reading all this...
but to just make you aware how grim things are, i'll put my own inputs here - it may seem like jale pe namak but please you know me enough to see that i'd never do such things i'm just trying to explain things...

so, the tri-rail top cover thing you mentioned and deemed a fairy tale, actually exists... @Unknowncommando jay bhai did share many pics of it in service, one of them here

and, well, IT IS ORIGINALLY A CHINESE PRODUCT NAMED VECTOR OPTICS SCRA-20 TRI-RAIL UPPER MOUNT SYSTEM !
well, it's not listed on Vector Optics' official website anymore, or that i wasn't able to find it as their filter system in product catalogue just dumps everything together, but based on some aftermarket 'white-lable-ish' websites, it seems it did exist and most likely originated there

VECTOR OPTICS SCRA-20 UPPER MOUNT SYSTEM AK47

UPPER MOUNT SYSTEM AK47, One-piece Integral Picatinny Tri-Rails Attached to Receiver Cover,Accepts All Varieties of Scope, Tactical Flashlight and Laser.

bntonline.co.za

Vector Optics AK Tri-Rail Upper Mount System - Black

Lightweight design Three picatinny rails Ergonomic mounting

www.futurama.co.za

(3720) AKM / AK / MAK90 Receiver dust cover with Picatinny-Tri-Rail

Fifth generation AK/MAK-90 scope mount. The dust cover is made of Steel with an aluminum One-piece Integral Picatinny Tri-rails placed on it The rifle scope mount replaces the original receiver dust cover.

www.shootingsportssupplies.com

Rifle Scope Manufacturer, Red DOT Sight, Laser Sight Supplier - Vector Optics Co., Ltd.

as for...'mounting optics and flashlight together thing'...perhaps it came out from this pic of the product


for more pics, go visit this pakistani gun parts website

AK 47 Receiver Tri-Rail Integral Picatinny Dust Cover Back Rail Cover Rail mount – TGP

tacticalgearpakistan.pk

so yeah,
then question arises, how the hell a chinese thing like this came over here...
some of my best assumptions
(1.) got 'white-labelled' by some supplier as their own product here, most likely
(2.) well, since it's being sold in pakistan side for 5-6 hazaar , perhaps some terrorshits put it on their AKs and got smoked here, and we got these off their captured firearms
(3.) someone local here copied the design, manufactured it here and sold to armed forces

 

[BlackViking]

the tri-rail top cover thing you mentioned and deemed a fairy tale, actually exists

I said only a riveted rail cover exists in the market, not a milled one. While designing a tri-rail cover is easy, design to manufacture, and actually manufacturing it with the limited tooling I have was the effort, that too as per standards. And it cleared the damn trials. I go borderline regret mode when this shit happens, when I am the most confident that at least my products would reach financial bidding.