Operation Sindoor & Aftermath (70 Viewers)

[vampyrbladez]

View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1941893818888196314

Le Sauce :- https://www.avion-chasse.fr/sindoor-eric-trappier-refute-les-pertes-de-rafale-lors-dun-combat

Kuch bolunga toh vivad ho jayega. Baki sabhi samajhdar hai.

 

[sunnyv]

OP Sindoor has clearly demonstrated one thing crystal clearly.
PAF was afraid like hell to take on offensive role. Meteor functional or not (likely Functional IMO) keeping that aside; PAF was scared like hell to undertake any offensive mission, they were worried about the defensive posture of IAF and Indian Air Defence. Multilayered networked SAM coverage all along western and Northern border with CAP of Fighters buzzing with BVRAAM of IAF - Meteor, ASTRA-1 and New Stock of R77 gave their planners nightmare and big jolt to their psyche. They were just not prepared/ not even wargamed to take on offensive role with an intact AD. Their operational planning was found wanting as they never anticipated or expected Indian Army , and Air-Force to successfully do precision air-strikes so deep inside Punjab. Whatever being said, PAF clearly miscalculated the Quantum of Indian Response and whatever face saving they tried with Baniyan Manhoos failed. Their Air-Force was so underconfident & scared after failed CM400, and loss of AirBorne Awareness once S400 had their first victim that they had to rely on their Rocket force to launch S2S weapons in desperation. IAF became a monster from 8th once they were given offensive role without ROE restrictions. Even our old daddy Jags had a free ride with Rampage. What a moment and week that was.

 

[sunnyv]

Kuch bolunga toh vivad ho jayega. Baki sabhi samajhdar hai.

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IMO lets not give fire to speculation based on Dassault CEO. PPT of Def attaché in Indonesia and statement of CDS appears to be more in line about ground reality. We can blame it on ROE based on Armed forces version. "We identified our Tactical mistake, corrected it and all our air-assets were back in air."

 

[vampyrbladez]

That's a Python 5 from Spyder, it is coming no where close to a fighter at 36,000 ft.

Who said the fighter jet was shot down at 36000 feet. It was trying to RTB and was flying low to evade radar.

 

[snakeeyes07]

Who said the fighter jet was shot down at 36000 feet. It was trying to RTB and was flying low to evade radar.

That's what I understand from this post

View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1941893818888196314

 

[vampyrbladez]

That's what I understand from this post

View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1941893818888196314

“The fact that a couple of U.S. officials have come out and said it appears to have been a J-10 that was involved in the shootdown of the Rafale is interesting,” Bronk says. “That makes it fairly likely that we’re looking at a shootdown, but it is worth emphasizing that at least two PL-15s found in bits of India, where we know they were firing, doesn’t actually mean the Rafale was shot down for sure. The fact that the engine and the tail seem to be a little distance apart does support the idea that it didn’t just pancake, but it is possible, for example, that they ran out of fuel having spent too much time in afterburner and at low level trying to evade shots and had to eject due to fuel starvation on the way back to base. Or friendly fire, or a long-range HQ-9 shot — although that’s a bit less likely, I suspect.”

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www.twz.com

 

[Azaad]

View: https://twitter.com/Himat75/status/1941548066487795847?s=19


View: https://twitter.com/omarali50/status/1941687266188865569?s=19

I believe the ground is being set for Paxtan's recognition of Israel. Why? Good question. To safeguard its nukes from Israel + the US. Munira's Masterstroke.

However this will inflame passions among the mullahs who in turn will egg on their followers especially radical groups like the TTP, Tehrik e Labbaik, etc fuelling further unrest in Paxtan. Another Munira Masterstroke.

From labelling these groups Fitna Al Hindustan , Fitna Al Khawarij, Munira & Fauji Foundation risk being categorised as Khawarij themselves . Yet Another Munira Masterstroke.

What a time to be alive & what a time to be a Paxtani in Naya Paxtan !!

Alhamdulillah !

 

[Hari Sud]

IMO lets not give fire to speculation based on Dassault CEO. PPT of Def attaché in Indonesia and statement of CDS appears to be more in line about ground reality. We can blame it on ROE based on Armed forces version. "We identified our Tactical mistake, corrected it and all our air-assets were back in air."

What is the ground reality? Most people here at Pakistani behest had started to say Rafale shot down at Bhatinda. Now Rafale CEO has reacted. The Bhatinda plane was definitely not Rafale.

Any more Pakistani propaganda rumours you have in store.
At no time the Indian DGMO of the CDS said that Rafale was shot down. This rumour was cooked at Pakistani behest…. Shame for rumour mongering.

 

[silentassassin265]

What is the ground reality? Most people here at Pakistani behest had started to say Rafale shot down at Bhatinda. Now Rafale CEO has reacted. The Bhatinda plane was definitely not Rafale.

Any more Pakistani propaganda rumours you have in store.
At no time the Indian DGMO of the CDS said that Rafale was shot down. This rumour was cooked at Pakistani behest…. Shame for rumour mongering.

It only proved that rafale deal was a poor and expensive choice.
Su30mki clearly outperform even being older and bigger.
We need more su30mki with upgrades rather than mrfa

 

[sunnyv]

What is the ground reality? Most people here at Pakistani behest had started to say Rafale shot down at Bhatinda. Now Rafale CEO has reacted. The Bhatinda plane was definitely not Rafale.

Any more Pakistani propaganda rumours you have in store.
At no time the Indian DGMO of the CDS said that Rafale was shot down. This rumour was cooked at Pakistani behest…. Shame for rumour mongering.

What's your point. ???? Have u read the post in haste.
You jump in without an iota of idea what's being discussed. Speculation of SPYDER self-kill was discussed. No one is talking about aircraft types. Request to keep the discussion on course don't jump with self garnered conclusion.

 

[Selvam91]

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1941901005404217581

It's Era of Buddh,not yuddh

 

[Waanar]

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1941901005404217581

It's Era of Buddh,not yuddh

Modi should declare war in an Economy oriented summit.
That will show the porkies.

On a serious and more productive note-

‘Strongest terms’: Brics declaration slams Pahalgam attack, reaffirms stand against terror | India News - Times of India

India News: BRICS nations strongly condemned the April 22 terrorist attack in Jammu and Kashmir's Pahalgam, which resulted in 26 fatalities. The joint declaration

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[Adibot]

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1941901005404217581

It's Era of Buddh,not yuddh

Kya bakwas h yaar ye
Mahatma the pedophile is our inspiration

 

[Cereal Killer]

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1941901005404217581

It's Era of Buddh,not yuddh

"There is no place for war and violence for us"
That's like Ayub Khan in 65 saying Hindus can't fight

 

[sunnyv]

Discussion is about 3 Rafale shot down. You are missing the point.

No one said 3 aircrafts or particular type of Aircraft shot down. Its your delusion. Discussion was about refuting the claim of Dassault CEO of fratricide. Go through my post again. Nowhere name or number of aircraft is mentioned. Post was quoted in response to an image of Python-5 that's what was being discussed.

 

[Adibot]

"There is no place for war and violence for us"
That's like Ayub Khan in 65 saying Hindus can't fight

And they keep proving him right
Fucking idiots
Truly retarded national stance

 

[Samaritan]

It's the not the public. It's the retarded opposition. They will exaggerate, repeat Pakistani points and will try to demoralise the public. Revealing everything openly when your opponent is not doing it, also makes you go through a lot of problems. Usual suspect would go above and beyond to declare your efforts as failure even if only some 1 aircraft might have crashed somewhere or some CIWS system had not worked properly somewhere else. All that would be good, if our opposition was into good faith discussion. But they love to toe the Pakistani line more than Indian.

So the government will release the report only when everything will cool down..

There is no point in discussing losses. End result is important. rather, it should be made public why we stopped suddenly when we were at TOP. I my view , GOV has failed in this area. But I won't blame GOV because its important that you actually win on field instead of narrative war. There is bigger picture which will come out subsequently . What might be the truth is

1. PAK's china equipment failed at the time of crises .
2. India did hit big time inside PAK , on all air bases including Nur-khan/Kirana .
3. PAK's Nuk's were hit and PAK run for cover to US.
4. PAK surrendered their NUK to US and asked for ceasefire against India. Might be?
5. DJT arm twisted Munira to get his personal benefits in crypto first.
6. DJT did tried to pressure India to give in , India did not responded.
7. In end compromise reached with guarantee that US will take care of PAK's Nuk and any further incident in India will be dealt with major blow to PAK.
8. USA tried to push for release of IWT by pressuring India but we did not agree.
9. Now PAKArmy is completely surrendered to USA where as PAK GOV is trying to toe to China.
10. This will explode in time to come as neither Munira nor Shahbaj is going to be permanent there.

Media is trying put the brave figure for PAK and indulging in campaign "how many raffles are down"
We should ignore such filth.

 

[ezsasa]

"There is no place for war and violence for us"
That's like Ayub Khan in 65 saying Hindus can't fight

mulla munir too took these statements literally just like you did.

and what did he get in return?

Thread 'Documenting pakistani losses during Operation Sindoor'

Jun 30, 2025

Sargodha Airbase: Runway cratered and pakistan's likely nuclear weapons storage facility at Kirana hills struck with a cruise missile.


View: https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1921066650360508544




Airstrike at Kirana hills
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Radar site at Sukkur airfield neutralised





Radar site at Chunian neutralised

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[shade2]

Who said the fighter jet was shot down at 36000 feet. It was trying to RTB and was flying low to evade radar.

That's what I understand from this post

View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1941893818888196314

If this is true the Rayban-dharis cannot hide behind >"faulty ROEs by political leadership" anymore

 

[shade2]

mulla munir too took these statements literally just like you did.

and what did he get in return?

Thread 'Documenting pakistani losses during Operation Sindoor'

Jun 30, 2025

Sargodha Airbase: Runway cratered and pakistan's likely nuclear weapons storage facility at Kirana hills struck with a cruise missile.


View: https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1921066650360508544




Airstrike at Kirana hills
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Radar site at Sukkur airfield neutralised





Radar site at Chunian neutralised

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The statements are taken quite seriously by Leaderji though.
It is why defense budget is paltry today, perhaps if we build up we'd be seen as a "warmongering nation"?

One can never know what baboo advisers have put in his mind.