Operation Sindoor & Aftermath (34 Viewers)

[Numero]

 

[Durin's Folk]

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What absolute shitshow is happening, claims are being made and are being contradicted, denied!!

 

[Ajatshatru]

IAF to conduct air exercise in Rajasthan close to the southern section of border with pakistan, will kickstart from tonight

Indian Air Force has issued a NOTAM near the Gujarat border. The NOTAM was supposed to be effective from July 9th, but it seems the exercise started today.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Anyone else seeing massive jet activity overhead?
Like I am hearing it from past half an hour now

Fantastic, even Pakistanis are saying the same thing. Could this mean that India is preparing to strike Pakistan again?

 

[redpanda]

I'm really not sure what this guy is trying to do. A month back he was blurting out vague insinuations about us losing aircraft, probably in some attempt to sound clever or mysterious to foreign media. But it completely backfired, especially since the official position was that we had lost no aircraft. He single-handedly caused a massive embarrassment and humiliation, all of which could have easily been avoided.

At this point, I honestly believe he's just messing around with the government on purpose going out of his way to make these careless, offhand remarks. Either that, or he genuinely doesn’t grasp the weight his words carry. He comes off like a clueless blabbermouth with zero understanding of how a single poorly phrased sentence can be deliberately twisted to undermine your own narrative.

His earlier blunder already caused enough damage and gave the opposition, who had been waiting for any opportunity to attack Modi, a perfect opening. You’d think he would have learned from that and stayed away from public interviews altogether. But it’s starting to seem like he’s doing this deliberately now.

Do you think he said those things without government approval? Government simply wanted to reveal a vague outline of our losses. Even the defence attache who went to Indonesia only gave a vague outline. Oh btw our position wasn't "we had no losses" it was "Losses are part of the process and objectives is what matters. All objective were met. We had some losses which is being evaluated.". Literally just look at DGMO press release even there they vaguely accept we had losses. They are just releasing what they want in public.

Everyone including CDS have been saying we met all our objectives and that is what matters..

 

[asaada]

Do you think he said those things without government approval? Government simply wanted to reveal a vague outline of our losses. Even the defence attache who went to Indonesia only gave a vague outline. Oh btw our position wasn't "we had no losses" it was "Losses are part of the process and objectives is what matters. All objective were met. We had some losses which is being evaluated.". Literally just look at DGMO press release even there they vaguely accept we had losses. They are just releasing what they want in public.

Everyone including CDS have been saying we met all our objectives and that is what matters..

https://www.pib.gov.in/PressNoteDetails.aspx?NoteId=154455&ModuleId=3#:~:text=All%20strikes%20were%20executed%20without,highly%20effective%20and%20politically%20calibrated.

https://ddnews.gov.in/en/operation-sindoor-know-what-india-has-achieved/

'All strikes on Pakistan executed without loss of Indian assets': India's big update on Op Sindoor - BusinessToday

Strikes were conducted on Pakistani airbases including Noor Khan and Rahimyar Khan, using loitering munitions, or kamikaze drones, which hover before selecting and destroying high-value targets

www.businesstoday.in

 

[asaada]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRIrV8AiwHE

All Strikes Were Executed Without Loss Of Indian Assets: Govt On Operation Sindoor

India’s Air Defence Systems, combining assets from the Army, Navy, and primarily the Air Force, performed with exceptional synergy, said the government.

zeenews.india.com

 

[Adibot]

Fantastic, even Pakistanis are saying the same thing. Could this mean that India is preparing to strike Pakistan again?

Dunno
Like that's certainly not usual sorties though

 

[Adibot]

IAF to conduct air exercise in Rajasthan close to the southern section of border with pakistan, will kickstart from tonight

That exercise is sus
I mean we may hit them again

 

[redpanda]

https://www.pib.gov.in/PressNoteDetails.aspx?NoteId=154455&ModuleId=3#:~:text=All%20strikes%20were%20executed%20without,highly%20effective%20and%20politically%20calibrated.

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https://ddnews.gov.in/en/operation-sindoor-know-what-india-has-achieved/

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'All strikes on Pakistan executed without loss of Indian assets': India's big update on Op Sindoor - BusinessToday

Strikes were conducted on Pakistani airbases including Noor Khan and Rahimyar Khan, using loitering munitions, or kamikaze drones, which hover before selecting and destroying high-value targets

www.businesstoday.in

Yeah but in Army press briefing DGMO himself hinted there could be possible losses. He didn't exactly say what. Army has its process at place. Neither CDS not ADC would be saying these things without any approval. Sometimes things are kept a bit confusing intentionally.

 

[asaada]

Yeah but in Army press briefing DGMO himself hinted there could be possible losses. He didn't exactly say what. Army has its process at place. Neither CDS not ADC would be saying these things without any approval. Sometimes things are kept a bit confusing intentionally.

The DD News article on May 12, 2025, and the PIB press note on May 14, 2025, both stated that no Indian assets were lost during Operation Sindoor, coming after the DGMO's press briefing. The DGMO spoke in vague terms about losses, not specifically aircraft, focusing on operational challenges without confirming any jet losses.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/did-india-lose-rafale-fighter-jet-in-operation-sindoor-action-indian-military-says-this-rafale-downed-101746972541369.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com

It was only after CDS General Anil Chauhan's statement on May 31, 2025, admitting unspecified fighter jet losses due to tactical mistakes, that the narrative shifted to India acknowledging losses. Check the timeline: DD News and PIB's claims preceded the CDS's admission, which sparked the controversy over initial denials and it only got bigger after the shitshow in Jakarta.

India general admits jet losses in clash with Pakistan: Here’s what he said

Anil Chauhan, India’s chief of defence staff, says India experienced losses in the air but denies six planes downed.

www.aljazeera.com

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india/mis-representation-of-the-intention-india-s-embassy-in-jakarta-on-indian-defence-attache-s-reported-lost-jets-remarks-13200233.html

 

[Nibbler]

im starting to think they are doing this on purpose

just say 50 different things, and somehow find a way to slaughter more pakis while everyone is confused

 

[IRDefense]

I'm really not sure what this guy is trying to do. A month back he was blurting out vague insinuations about us losing aircraft, probably in some attempt to sound clever or mysterious to foreign media. But it completely backfired, especially since the official position was that we had lost no aircraft. He single-handedly caused a massive embarrassment and humiliation, all of which could have easily been avoided.

At this point, I honestly believe he's just messing around with the government on purpose going out of his way to make these careless, offhand remarks. Either that, or he genuinely doesn’t grasp the weight his words carry. He comes off like a clueless blabbermouth with zero understanding of how a single poorly phrased sentence can be deliberately twisted to undermine your own narrative.

His earlier blunder already caused enough damage and gave the opposition, who had been waiting for any opportunity to attack Modi, a perfect opening. You’d think he would have learned from that and stayed away from public interviews altogether. But it’s starting to seem like he’s doing this deliberately now.

Indian Military basicaly needs a good communications/PR department. I am pretty sure the CDS is pretty good at what he does, but he necessarily need not be great at public communications. It still astounds me that I know who leads DGISPR but I have no clue who leads ADGPI.

The military must review its communications department & ADGPI needs to get control over its messaging. I don't buy the good cop bad cop drama. Even in the US where capitalism provides for separation of private company ops from govt. US OEMs can't do much without govt approval. The CDS pretending that Chinese OEMs are somehow different from the Chinese state is laughable. A layman with basic business dealings in China would understand how much control the state has.

Clickbait headline or Media wala misunderstanding his statement. He just said the same thing as ADC in a more cryptic sophisticated tone. It is the whole good cop, bad cop setup. In this case the radical cop and the moderate cop. ADC is playing the radical cop who is openly calling out China while CDS is playing the moderate cop by using sophisticated softer tone to say the same thing. This is parallel to the Modi saying "Yudh nahi budh" and Rajnath saying "Peacetime is an illusion". Peak Chanakyaniti moment.

Op Sindoor: CDS contradicts Army Deputy Chief, says China support to Pakistan 'very difficult to define'

Army Deputy Chief Lt Gen Rahul R Singh had earlier said that China was giving live updates to Pakistan regarding Indian military deployments.

theprint.in

Modi & Rajnath aren't contradicting each other. Modi is just telling everyone this isn't a time for War, Contrary to what others belive Op Sindhoor ins't a contradiction. Look at Russia & Israel they have been embroiled in years of war, Modi had managed to control the escaalation & even probably willingly put assets at risk by restricting ROE to control the escalation.

Rajnath is just cautioning that even if you are restrained, war may find you someday & you need to be prepared. CDS its clearly a bad communicator.

 

[mist_consecutive]

View: https://x.com/Vikspeaks1/status/1942705611801780311

Big FAFO moment for us is coming, I am afraid. Keep on insulting Trump on global stage, piss off both superpowers and fail to make good relations to any of them, we are gonna have redux of 1998 over again.

 

[IRDefense]

View: https://x.com/Vikspeaks1/status/1942705611801780311

Big FAFO moment for us is coming, I am afraid. Keep on insulting Trump on global stage, piss off both superpowers and fail to make good relations to any of them, we are gonna have redux of 1998 over again.

I personally feel contradicting trump is an useless endavor, the government so far has handled it well. Trump didn't directly refer to some rather stern remarks by the MEA.

The US govt. has also so far underplayed its interactions with Pakistan, no official photo ops or fanfare. Its better for both countries if they just mive past this. I know trump will not stop talking about his involvement until end of times, India should just move in & stop commenting on it. India shouldn't have a problem with what trump says unless he actually tries to play negotiator.

Just give him a Bharat Ratna when he comes for QUAD, work on a good trade deal & hopefully a facvorable defense partnership.

 

[IRDefense]

View: https://x.com/ChangePakPolicy/status/1942739234642878846

 

[mist_consecutive]

View: https://x.com/Vikspeaks1/status/1942705611801780311

Big FAFO moment for us is coming, I am afraid. Keep on insulting Trump on global stage, piss off both superpowers and fail to make good relations to any of them, we are gonna have redux of 1998 over again.

This is what will happen I predict -

• Pakistan backed by US & China will conduct a massive terror attack.
• Pakistan will initiate pre-emptive strike on our airbases and military infra to "deter" a retaliation from us.
• Trump quickly jumps in and calls for ceasefire, else... !
• We don't listen, continue the campaign, but face steep losses. America and China are helping Pakistan with ELINT and weapons.
• Get slapped by economic sanctions, begrugingly accept ceasefire after ~2 weeks of stalemate.
• Opposition use this to defame Modi. Might be end of BJP rule.
• DFB fanboys larp "Yeah at least we are independent saar ! See Pakistan is puppet ! Everyone hates us because we are brown, no one wants to be our friends saar !"

 

[IRDefense]

This is what will happen I predict -

• Pakistan backed by US & China will conduct a massive terror attack.
• Pakistan will initiate pre-emptive strike on our airbases and military infra to "deter" a retaliation from us.
• Trump quickly jumps in and calls for ceasefire, else... !
• We don't listen, continue the campaign, but face steep losses. America and China are helping Pakistan with ELINT and weapons.
• Get slapped by economic sanctions, begrugingly accept ceasefire after ~2 weeks of stalemate.
• Opposition use this to defame Modi. Might be end of BJP rule.
• DFB fanboys larp "Yeah at least we are independent saar ! See Pakistan is puppet ! Everyone hates us because we are brown, no one wants to be our friends saar !"

This series of events means the only power that has faced China militarily in recent times, folds. QUAD is done.

Now why would US go out of its way to help China & Bhikaris?

 

[Waanar]

View: https://x.com/Vikspeaks1/status/1942705611801780311

Big FAFO moment for us is coming, I am afraid. Keep on insulting Trump on global stage, piss off both superpowers and fail to make good relations to any of them, we are gonna have redux of 1998 over again.

Can we please actually verify that USAF has actually been busy in supplying Pakistan with "only God knows what" and the twitter user isn't just sensationalizing stuff?

A single C17 landing is not a war preparation. I looked at a few hours of air traffic on flight radar (free version sped up, of course) and I didn't see a lot of USAF movement there. Would be glad if someone who understands that site better would weigh in.
Maybe look at ADS-B.

 

[snakeeyes07]

Can we please actually verify that USAF has actually been busy in supplying Pakistan with "only God knows what" and the twitter user isn't just sensationalizing stuff?

A single C17 landing is not a war preparation. I looked at a few hours of air traffic on flight radar (free version sped up, of course) and I didn't see a lot of USAF movement there. Would be glad if someone who understands that site better would weigh in.
Maybe look at ADS-B.

It is misinformation. Come on guys it is not that difficult to check.

Don't make a 3 futiya Pakistan appear as a 6 futiya.

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