Operation Sindoor & Aftermath (88 Viewers)

[Waanar]

It is misinformation. Come on guys it is not that difficult to check.

Don't make a 3 futiya Pakistan appear as a 6 futiya.

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Yes, I am on the same thing right now.
The C17 never even landed in Porkiland.

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This is the flight to Dushanbe and the one afterwards is the flight from Dushanbe back to UAE. (The snapshot of which the twitter user put up).

It occasionally stops squawking whenever close to the Iranian border or over Afghanistan but the gaps in time between squawks do not indicate any landing into Pakistan whatsoever unless they're airdropping supplies or something (Highly, highly doubt that. It's a ridiculous idea but I'm just mentioning the possibility for the sake of it).

 

[Tumba]

This is what will happen I predict -

• Pakistan backed by US & China will conduct a massive terror attack.
• Pakistan will initiate pre-emptive strike on our airbases and military infra to "deter" a retaliation from us.
• Trump quickly jumps in and calls for ceasefire, else... !
• We don't listen, continue the campaign, but face steep losses. America and China are helping Pakistan with ELINT and weapons.
• Get slapped by economic sanctions, begrugingly accept ceasefire after ~2 weeks of stalemate.
• Opposition use this to defame Modi. Might be end of BJP rule.
• DFB fanboys larp "Yeah at least we are independent saar ! See Pakistan is puppet ! Everyone hates us because we are brown, no one wants to be our friends saar !"

There are 10000 reasons I say you are wrong …

pakistan is a like a spoilt banana in geography and is perfect cutting device to puncture the banana …

India barely used a dozen n pakis surrendered, any thing pakis try they will lose their offensive conventional capabilities with in half a fckin hour …

paki navy all gone
paki air force HV assets all gone

India didnt stop last time coz of Trump India wont stop next time for Trump next time Indian mission objectives will be pretty simple take out all offensive assets like naval sub n ships, awacs, refuelers and long range capable bvr fighters

If they try civilian targets they will lose any worthwhile civilian infra like ports, steel plants etc they have

 

[Tumba]

Also pakis r happy thinking they brought down “Rafales”

IAF lost one Rafale not coz of PL-15 but because that pilot took the Rafale beyond its structural limits when thr was no fckin need this is the OG reason for Rafale losing no paki BVR, no friendly fire, no jamming but pilot being fckin going rodeo

 

[Dharmocrat]

This is what will happen I predict -

• Pakistan backed by US & China will conduct a massive terror attack.
• Pakistan will initiate pre-emptive strike on our airbases and military infra to "deter" a retaliation from us.
• Trump quickly jumps in and calls for ceasefire, else... !
• We don't listen, continue the campaign, but face steep losses. America and China are helping Pakistan with ELINT and weapons.
• Get slapped by economic sanctions, begrugingly accept ceasefire after ~2 weeks of stalemate.
• Opposition use this to defame Modi. Might be end of BJP rule.
• DFB fanboys larp "Yeah at least we are independent saar ! See Pakistan is puppet ! Everyone hates us because we are brown, no one wants to be our friends saar !"

Intelligence during wartime no matter from what credible source needs the ability to prosecute a counter in order to use it properly.

No matter how much ELINT or whatever Pakis get, they can't stop us from doing whatever the fuvk we have done last time. Air defense takes years to build and train the manpower.

Sanctions will be the best thing that will happen to India. Allows us to develop MIC because UN genrols and air Marshall's will have no option but to invest themselves in our MIC. We will also be given a God sent opportunity to straighten out the internal situation with a massive clean up.

If you think a BJP that started a war after Paki attacks would lose an election, clearly you know nothing about Indian politics.

They will remove whatever Sanctions if any in 2-3 years, but they will have to literally fall on our feet with roses in mouth for the west to get back to any position that they had before vis-a-vis economic access to India.

Again, you keep whining a lot that we are too independent, but you don't give any solutions or roadmaps to solve this. What do you propose we do ? Like actual solutions at the policy level?

Again, you might not be having safeguarding our Cultural and religious identity as a priority but a lot of us do and will judge the govt and the foreign policy they adapt based in that metric.

So, give me something concrete here, not gyan.

 

[Vinash]

This series of events means the only power that has faced China militarily in recent times, folds. QUAD is done.

Now why would US go out of its way to help China & Bhikaris?

US accepting a G2 since it has no stomach for a war with China and hence taking steps to avoid a G3 situation 2-3 decades down the line.

A world with 1 Super power i.e USA >>>> A world with 2 Super powers >>>> A world with 3 Super powers

Obviously this is just a guess.

 

[Prasad]

Also pakis r happy thinking they brought down “Rafales”

IAF lost one Rafale not coz of PL-15 but because that pilot took the Rafale beyond its structural limits when thr was no fckin need this is the OG reason for Rafale losing no paki BVR, no friendly fire, no jamming but pilot being fckin going rodeo

To be fair, most fighter jet pilots are crazy, the good crazy.
They have to be bit crazy to be sitting in a machine with fuel that can vaporize a building and enough bombs to take out a building block.

 

[Adibot]

Why i am not able to believe that Gen Bipin Rawat Sir's was just an accident..!!!!!

It wasn't
We all know that
I have a guy working in department who knows that it wasn't
Government knows that it wasn't
It's just that our policies are fucked up

 

[Miss Firing]

Have i offended my dear leader Tramp saaar?

Have we insulted you by our mere breathing?

How dare these lowly Hindoo nationalists not open up their agricultural sector? This is very arrogant move.

Why are we not buying rice from USA? This is an insult to the sole super power on the planet.

Why cant we just take the trade deal, agree to Tramp saar's demand that we talk to Pakistan on Kashmir?

Whats so big about Kashmir? It just mostly mountains, we should understand that terror attacks are part and parcel of our life nd accept realities.

Modi should address the nation & praise Tramp saar & tell that he was responsible for de-escalation.

Also, it was very arrogant of Modi not to attend the dinner with Asim Munir sir, it is an insult to USA, we should remind ourselves that we survive on american money & we should not displease them.

To phrase another member who used to post on DFI, we should "count our blessings".

MEA should handover a letter of apology to USA & another one nominating Tramp saar for nobaal prize.

We should understand that China, Pakistan & USA together can siege Delhi, demolish Ram mandir & covert Indian kids to Islam, Christianity & Atheism. WE have really pissed of the king of five eyes & we should be prepared to make amends or else divine retribution will be upon us.

Please forgive me MAGA, please forgive me Tramp saar. We dont deserve your divine light & warmth.

 

[Adibot]

There are 10000 reasons I say you are wrong …

pakistan is a like a spoilt banana in geography and is perfect cutting device to puncture the banana …

India barely used a dozen n pakis surrendered, any thing pakis try they will lose their offensive conventional capabilities with in half a fckin hour …

paki navy all gone
paki air force HV assets all gone

India didnt stop last time coz of Trump India wont stop next time for Trump next time Indian mission objectives will be pretty simple take out all offensive assets like naval sub n ships, awacs, refuelers and long range capable bvr fighters

If they try civilian targets they will lose any worthwhile civilian infra like ports, steel plants etc they have

They will use everything they have got this time
Here's the deal pakis are gonna attack us this time as the next terror attack will be propped by them as an inside job
There was a boat recently caught near Mumbai port and there have been multiple attempts in June itself to mount massive attacks on us
Thing is that our military and intelligence can't stop em all
So unless they develop a multi pronged approcah that is to butcher so many pakis in pakiland that they lose count of em we won't he able to stop them

 

[Viper316]

Can we please actually verify that USAF has actually been busy in supplying Pakistan with "only God knows what" and the twitter user isn't just sensationalizing stuff?

A single C17 landing is not a war preparation. I looked at a few hours of air traffic on flight radar (free version sped up, of course) and I didn't see a lot of USAF movement there. Would be glad if someone who understands that site better would weigh in.
Maybe look at ADS-B.

Incorrect info, USAF C17 didn't land in pakistan soil yesterday though it was doing rounds for a while in pakistan skies and vanished everyone got confused, finally it landed in Dhashbande, Tajikistan.

 

[Adibot]

Intelligence during wartime no matter from what credible source needs the ability to prosecute a counter in order to use it properly.

No matter how much ELINT or whatever Pakis get, they can't stop us from doing whatever the fuvk we have done last time. Air defense takes years to build and train the manpower.

Sanctions will be the best thing that will happen to India. Allows us to develop MIC because UN genrols and air Marshall's will have no option but to invest themselves in our MIC. We will also be given a God sent opportunity to straighten out the internal situation with a massive clean up.

If you think a BJP that started a war after Paki attacks would lose an election, clearly you know nothing about Indian politics.

They will remove whatever Sanctions if any in 2-3 years, but they will have to literally fall on our feet with roses in mouth for the west to get back to any position that they had before vis-a-vis economic access to India.

Again, you keep whining a lot that we are too independent, but you don't give any solutions or roadmaps to solve this. What do you propose we do ? Like actual solutions at the policy level?

Again, you might not be having safeguarding our Cultural and religious identity as a priority but a lot of us do and will judge the govt and the foreign policy they adapt based in that metric.

So, give me something concrete here, not gyan.

Well
I think we should brace ourselves for more brown and Hindu hatred and brown sepoys siding with cumskins

 

[snakeeyes07]

And the PAF chief under whom airbases in Pakistan proper suffered arguably worst strikes than in 1971, is the gospel of truth. This too when IAF was only doing demonstration strikes (messaging without the intent to cause max damage), otherwise 2 PAF C-130 and 1 AEW&CS were parked on the apron next to runway in Sargodha (see image).

Maybe Alan should read PAF internal whistleblower reports/chatter on what kind of corrupt person this ACM is.

So they jammed NAVIC across in India but didn't do it over PAF Nur Khan, Sukkur, Sargodha, Murid, RYK, Shorkot, Bholari, Jacobabad where achieved sub meter accuracy.

I guess Munir should be hunting for PAF ACM for making him waste Fateh 1 missiles/rockets, he jammed GPS over Pathankot and Jammu airbases and that's why Munir's rockets were missing by 3-4 kms. Haha ISPR needs to think through their lies.

Alan Warnes is a well known ISPR/PAF influence agent, I had put it out in a post when his article on IAF strikes initially came out that he is trying to gain initial validation and beware of the disinformation later. That article too didn't cover strikes on multiple other PAF bases which were proved in Maxar and Chinese company satellite imagery. Also spun the mobile C2 trucks in Nur Khan as fuel trucks, what the hell are fuel trucks doing next to an operational C2 building.

Maybe if he was a serious journalist, he should have questioned why ACM Zaheer was asking for AN/TPS-77 replacement units in his US visit?


View: https://x.com/warnesyworld/status/1942769008589090858

 

[Miss Firing]

And the PAF chief under whom airbases in Pakistan proper suffered arguably worst strikes than in 1971, is the gospel of truth. This too when IAF was only doing demonstration strikes (messaging without the intent to cause max damage), otherwise 2 PAF C-130 and 1 AEW&CS were parked on the apron next to runway in Sargodha (see image).

Maybe Alan should read PAF internal whistleblower reports/chatter on what kind of corrupt person this ACM is.

So they jammed NAVIC across in India but didn't do it over PAF Nur Khan, Sukkur, Sargodha, Murid, RYK, Shorkot, Bholari, Jacobabad where achieved sub meter accuracy.

I guess Munir should be hunting for PAF ACM for making him waste Fateh 1 missiles/rockets, he jammed GPS over Pathankot and Jammu airbases and that's why his rockets were missing by 3-4 kms. Haha ISPR needs to think through their lies.

Alan Warnes is a well known ISPR/PAF influence agent, I had put it out in a post when his article on IAF strikes initially came out that he is trying to gain initial validation and beware of the disinformation later. That article too didn't cover strikes on multiple PAF bases which were proved in Maxar and Chinese company satellite imagery. Also spun the mobile C2 trucks in Nur Khan as fuel trucks, what the hell are fuel trucks doing next to an operational C2 building.


View: https://x.com/warnesyworld/status/1942769008589090858

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Just check the wording of the tweet.

He spoke to chef mashall. Chef marshall gave him some information.

Whatever the chef marshall blurted out has been presented as a fact.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

This is what will happen I predict -

• Pakistan backed by US & China will conduct a massive terror attack.
• Pakistan will initiate pre-emptive strike on our airbases and military infra to "deter" a retaliation from us.
• Trump quickly jumps in and calls for ceasefire, else... !
• We don't listen, continue the campaign, but face steep losses. America and China are helping Pakistan with ELINT and weapons.
• Get slapped by economic sanctions, begrugingly accept ceasefire after ~2 weeks of stalemate.
• Opposition use this to defame Modi. Might be end of BJP rule.
• DFB fanboys larp "Yeah at least we are independent saar ! See Pakistan is puppet ! Everyone hates us because we are brown, no one wants to be our friends saar !"

nope sanction on India will be monumentally dumb move from Americans, I can see EU siding with india in that case, most they will do is increase tariffs and fuck around with engine exports. no amount of intel with give pakis any meaningful advantage when navy starts raining brahmos and artillery starts punching holes across LOC.

this whole pakis will get muh weapons is a unfounded threat, an proper attack from IAF will shutdown entire paki airspace. we somehow downgraded from 10ft chinaman to 10ft inbred porkiman

 

[Tumba]

And the PAF chief under whom airbases in Pakistan proper suffered arguably worst strikes than in 1971, is the gospel of truth. This too when IAF was only doing demonstration strikes (messaging without the intent to cause max damage), otherwise 2 PAF C-130 and 1 AEW&CS were parked on the apron next to runway in Sargodha (see image).

Maybe Alan should read PAF internal whistleblower reports/chatter on what kind of corrupt person this ACM is.

So they jammed NAVIC across in India but didn't do it over PAF Nur Khan, Sukkur, Sargodha, Murid, RYK, Shorkot, Bholari, Jacobabad where achieved sub meter accuracy.

I guess Munir should be hunting for PAF ACM for making him waste Fateh 1 missiles/rockets, he jammed GPS over Pathankot and Jammu airbases and that's why his rockets were missing by 3-4 kms. Haha ISPR needs to think through their lies.

Alan Warnes is a well known ISPR/PAF influence agent, I had put it out in a post when his article on IAF strikes initially came out that he is trying to gain initial validation and beware of the disinformation later. That article too didn't cover strikes on multiple PAF bases which were proved in Maxar and Chinese company satellite imagery. Also spun the mobile C2 trucks in Nur Khan as fuel trucks, what the hell are fuel trucks doing next to an operational C2 building.


View: https://x.com/warnesyworld/status/1942769008589090858

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If u do this much restraining that means u r a fckin coward .. fck u military babus … u can clearly take out thr fckin High value assets such fools

 

[snakeeyes07]

And the PAF chief under whom airbases in Pakistan proper suffered arguably worst strikes than in 1971, is the gospel of truth. This too when IAF was only doing demonstration strikes (messaging without the intent to cause max damage), otherwise 2 PAF C-130 and 1 AEW&CS were parked on the apron next to runway in Sargodha (see image).

Maybe Alan should read PAF internal whistleblower reports/chatter on what kind of corrupt person this ACM is.

So they jammed NAVIC across in India but didn't do it over PAF Nur Khan, Sukkur, Sargodha, Murid, RYK, Shorkot, Bholari, Jacobabad where achieved sub meter accuracy.

I guess Munir should be hunting for PAF ACM for making him waste Fateh 1 missiles/rockets, he jammed GPS over Pathankot and Jammu airbases and that's why Munir's rockets were missing by 3-4 kms. Haha ISPR needs to think through their lies.

Alan Warnes is a well known ISPR/PAF influence agent, I had put it out in a post when his article on IAF strikes initially came out that he is trying to gain initial validation and beware of the disinformation later. That article too didn't cover strikes on multiple other PAF bases which were proved in Maxar and Chinese company satellite imagery. Also spun the mobile C2 trucks in Nur Khan as fuel trucks, what the hell are fuel trucks doing next to an operational C2 building.

Maybe if he was a serious journalist, he should have questioned why ACM Zaheer was asking for AN/TPS-77 replacement units in his US visit?


View: https://x.com/warnesyworld/status/1942769008589090858

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Same story with target rich Nur Khan strategic airbase, it had multiple C-130, IL-78, VVIP and other support aircrafts parked on aprons along with HQ9B JSG400 FCR & TELs less than a km away from what was targeted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaksLDWYpdo

 

[ezsasa]

I am with CDS on this one.

public statements should be based on evidence, not extrapolations and gut feelings. if a statement is premised on extrapolation or a gut feeling, phrasing of the sentence should be different from a factual assertion, so that audience takes their cue from the phrasing.

if there isn't one, CDS needs to create a mandatory course on strategic communication for jernails and military personnel interacting with public, with a chapter on perils of ongoing social media phenomenon of decontextualized discourse. every statement is being interpreted in the public without taking into account the context of the statement. care also needs to be taken, not to allow street opinion(algorithm boosted SM opinion ) colour strategic communication.

english isn't our first language, "bloody civilians" on social media and msm are being encouraged to misinterpret everything that has been said, by the mediums and platforms. might as well take these new trends into account while making public statements.
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Did China provide real time intelligence to Pakistan during Operation Sindoor?​

View: https://youtu.be/MZKvLnQcRkA

 

[snakeeyes07]

I tend to agree with this assessment. Based on OSINT videos of Fateh 1 launches, they were being fired from Daska and Gujranwala area [at least 45-50 km in depth from IB]. This puts Fateh-1 out of range and Fateh-2 has 365 kg warhead and this crater would have been considerably larger in that case.


View: https://x.com/Ray70409890/status/1942625927151903022

 

[Cheepek]

I am with CDS on this one.

public statements should be based on evidence, not extrapolations and gut feelings. if a statement is premised on extrapolation or a gut feeling, phrasing of the sentence should be different from a factual assertion, so that audience takes their cue from the phrasing.

if there isn't one, CDS needs to create a mandatory course on strategic communication for jernails and military personnel interacting with public, with a chapter on perils of ongoing social media phenomenon of decontextualized discourse. every statement is being interpreted in the public without taking into account the context of the statement. care also needs to be taken, not to allow street opinion(algorithm boosted SM opinion ) colour strategic communication.

english isn't our first language, "bloody civilians" on social media and msm are being encouraged to misinterpret everything that has been said, by the mediums and platforms. might as well take these new trends into account while making public statements.
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Did China provide real time intelligence to Pakistan during Operation Sindoor?​

View: https://youtu.be/MZKvLnQcRkA

Vice Chief said nothing wrong. There is a pattern of how things go in the government's communication vis-à-vis China.
Whenever China is named or is pointed out, comes a "fact check" soon, from the government itself which need not be a debunking anything, but providing a layer of ambiguity to the Chinese, after they've been named.

 

[Brood Father]

This is what will happen I predict -

• Pakistan backed by US & China will conduct a massive terror attack.
• Pakistan will initiate pre-emptive strike on our airbases and military infra to "deter" a retaliation from us.
• Trump quickly jumps in and calls for ceasefire, else... !
• We don't listen, continue the campaign, but face steep losses. America and China are helping Pakistan with ELINT and weapons.
• Get slapped by economic sanctions, begrugingly accept ceasefire after ~2 weeks of stalemate.
• Opposition use this to defame Modi. Might be end of BJP rule.
• DFB fanboys larp "Yeah at least we are independent saar ! See Pakistan is puppet ! Everyone hates us because we are brown, no one wants to be our friends saar !"

Now consider this

In order to prevent India from future humiliation new government settles border with China(give them AP and Aksai Chin) , become part of belt and road and kick the US out of Indo Pacific for good.

See how easily US interest went for a toss if India is weakened . If India is weakened China will have unabated access to Indian Ocean and that is good bye to US / Western hegemony and China will be ultimate Superpower
Now why US will want that ?