Operation Sindoor & Aftermath (78 Viewers)

randombully said:
Whole thing is a complicated circus, with both parties having conflicting and mutual interests, the direction right now Is working together in mutual interests and "tolerating" opposing interests *for now*.
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Not just us, it's the story of every country that tries to work with murican gormint and establishment.

murican talking heads(some, not all) in think tanks and media are showing some humility these days, a decade ago their language and attitude was akin to emperor's darbaris during their unipolar moment.
 
Anyways read those two books. You will be actually feel a bit glad about our current situation knowing about our situation back then. Yet you will still feel we need much more to do. The first book is sadly out of stock on online stores though. So you have to find it offline. Those books give an interesting insight to DRDO's history and thus domestic arms industry as well.
 
ezsasa said:
this particular communication between the two, falls under this category.
IA is not ready to divulge more info than what they deem necessary. this is fine in my books.
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There are many such instances where government or army spokespersons go overzealous on giving the Chinese benefit of doubt without actually fact-checking anything.
Why would PIB et al go to lengths of factchecking "old videos" of India-China scuffle videos shared by netizens? Pvt. fact checkers are understandable, but why would PIB (a government org) do it? What harm does it do to India or the Indian government when Indians take joy in seeing Chinese soldiers getting bashed?
Another instance i could recall is when Vijaita wrote about a face off after Galwan- no clash, just a faceoff b/w soldiers on both sides. Pretty common right? Maybe 100s of such instances happen every year. Very likely it happened as well, but again there was a "fact check" denying it completely.
Why would you even deny something that's so normal on the LAC? Maybe it did not happen on that day, maybe occurred one day after or one day prior, but what's the point in going overboard if not to placate the Chinese?

I never said it's wrong or right, but there's a pattern to it. Government always tries to placate the Chinese in it's communication, and this "fact check" by CDS should be seen in that context.
 
shade2 said:
Parthu/Gessler on the other forum peddles this theory.
I mean it is his theory there is nothing as evidence for this.

I think Javelin and Stryker are only jaziya purchases
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Its not a theory.
Here's the evidence.



"Almost right at the beginning of the administration, President [Donald J.] Trump and Prime Minister Shri [Narendra] Modi set a strong foundation for our relationship, which we're building on here today: productive, pragmatic and realistic," Hegseth said. "And our nations boast a rich and growing history of cooperation driven by a shared commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific."

The secretary said both the U.S. and India are mutually aware of the security concerns in the region, and both nations have the ability to counter that threat together. He also touched on U.S. efforts to provide India with the tools needed to counter threats in the Indo-Pacific region

**<mutually aware of the security concerns in the region>**


"The United States is very pleased with the successful integration of many U.S. defense items into India's inventory," Hegseth said. "And building on this progress, we hope we can complete several major pending U.S. defense sales to India, expand our shared defense industrial cooperation and coproduction efforts, strengthen interoperability ... between our forces, and then formally sign a new 10-year Framework for the U.S.-India Major Defense Partnership ... which we hope to do very soon."


**<shared defense industrial cooperation and COPRODUCTION efforts>**
**<strengthen interoperability>**
 
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Miss Firing said:
Relevant, hence posting here, {{ Very long read but serious breaches being reported }}


The Silent Switch: How China Is Building A Kill Button Inside India’s Critical Infrastructure​


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Summarizing -

1. Early 2021

Chinese state-linked hacking group, later identified as RedEcho, had infiltrated key systems within India’s power grid.

Over the course of several months, this group had managed to quietly establish digital links to at least ten of India’s most sensitive power-related entities. These included four of the country’s five Regional Load Despatch Centres, or RLDCs.
But the RLDCs weren’t the only targets.

The hackers were also found to be inside systems linked to a major thermal power station, two large shipping ports, and several high-voltage substations, critical infrastructure that enables electricity to travel across state lines and into homes, hospitals, airports, data centres, and military bases.

These systems form the invisible spine of India’s economy.

2 2022

Seven State Load Despatch Centres (SLDCs), which handle electricity distribution within states, were found to be compromised. Also hit were the Indian operations of a global logistics firm and, more worryingly, the country’s national emergency response system.


The breaches have deepened fears that China’s cyber strategy may go beyond disrupting infrastructure to actively undermining India’s ability to respond in a crisis.
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China does not intend to exploit its access to India’s critical infrastructure immediately. But by embedding itself quietly in advance, it secures a strategic edge. If tensions escalate, the ability to disrupt civilian systems is already in place. The malware may lie dormant indefinitely, yet its mere presence alters the calculus of any future conflict.

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They have placed malware at appropriate places so that it can be activated when the time comes.

Aim is to utterly paralyze the country/decision making process/communication/electricity grid & throwing everything to chaos.
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And no one knows what the government is doing about it.
 
Regardless of whatever is happening right now, I just want to echo my thoughts a little.

Our entire air war strategy (at least as per last skirmish) seems to be a "Kill all planes on ground then attrite the survivors in the air".
PAF is definitely the most competent arm of Porkiland. PN is garbage, PA is pretty much the same as every other third world Army, erring on the side of bad than good. To take it out means Porkiland is a state ruled by a well organized militia than an actual military. It also lends well to our soon-to-be neighbors and potential enemies in Afghanistan in whittling down and strangling Porki state.

We should definitely push Brahmos's advantage before countermeasures against it are developed. It's not like Porkis would survive a full scale war anyways but Brahmos is a guaranteed king maker which will make sure our casualties don't start crossing into "unbearable" territory.
For that to happen, India needs to start a war soon. Within 5 years is good, within an year or two is best.
China will be prepping for Taiwan by then and will not be so generous with their weapon systems or resupply efforts.

If the news about Xi Jinping getting heat from his peers is true, sooner or later, a new leader will emerge who may or may not be as well accepted (its not a democracy so I think it'll be the latter) and they will start seeking external enemies to keep the public united and aligned with the state then. Even if Jinping isn't overthrown, he may try to purge his political opponents like Iran took advantage of Israeli bombings to bag and execute activists against Mullah regime. That combined with the weather conditions which (someone please elaborate, I'm spitballing off a YT video from Macbeth here) apparently will make it easier for PLAN to push for Taiwan basically means there are multiple triggers which may lead to China getting wrapped up in it's own conflict.

Taiwan, bad as it may sound, is the LEAST of our concerns. Deal with the terror state and defend our borders till Chinese economy plummets and we can chill is the best deal we're going to get this decade.
 
Talk about people & organizations benefiting from Operation Sindoor. Just how many people were aware of this arrangement between municipalities & pvt players?

Secondly what're the security implications of such a move?

Thirdly why's it security protocols in border areas aren't drafted by the Home / Defence Ministry instead of a municipality insisting on a single kill switch for a black out.

Finally What happens if a foreign entity hijacks the network or renders it unusable given security protocols are perceived to be lax in such set ups usually ?


indianexpress.com

Pune Inc: As Operation Sindoor took place, a Maharashtra firm quietly secured Amritsar under a blanket of darkness

The Amritsar Smart City Corporation has sent a letter appreciating Pune-based company Samudra LED for its vital contribution in keeping the city safe during the recent India-Pakistan conflict.
indianexpress.com indianexpress.com
 
snakeeyes07 said:
And the PAF chief under whom airbases in Pakistan proper suffered arguably worst strikes than in 1971, is the gospel of truth. This too when IAF was only doing demonstration strikes (messaging without the intent to cause max damage), otherwise 2 PAF C-130 and 1 AEW&CS were parked on the apron next to runway in Sargodha (see image).

Maybe Alan should read PAF internal whistleblower reports/chatter on what kind of corrupt person this ACM is.

So they jammed NAVIC across in India but didn't do it over PAF Nur Khan, Sukkur, Sargodha, Murid, RYK, Shorkot, Bholari, Jacobabad where Brahmos achieved sub meter accuracy.

I guess Munir should be hunting for PAF ACM for making him waste Fateh 1 missiles/rockets, he jammed GPS over Pathankot and Jammu airbases and that's why Munir's rockets were missing by 3-4 kms. Haha ISPR needs to think through their lies.

Alan Warnes is a well known ISPR/PAF influence agent, I had put it out in a post when his article on IAF strikes initially came out that he is trying to gain initial validation and beware of the disinformation later. That article too didn't cover strikes on multiple other PAF bases which were proved in Maxar and Chinese company satellite imagery. Also spun the mobile C2 trucks in Nur Khan as fuel trucks, what the hell are fuel trucks doing next to an operational C2 building.

Maybe if he was a serious journalist, he should have questioned why ACM Zaheer was asking for AN/TPS-77 replacement units in his US visit?


View: https://x.com/warnesyworld/status/1942769008589090858

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Some musings from 2020;

"Positive vibes in pakiland"


View: https://twitter.com/warnesyworld/status/1219898192290111488

"Trust me, DGISPR does not pay me"


View: https://twitter.com/warnesyworld/status/1246028451615772672


View: https://twitter.com/warnesyworld/status/1233045817918881793
 
shade2 said:
What will happen is we'll become a US "vassal" get none of the fancy imported toys( maybe some F16Vs with AIM-120, Finally! WAOW! ) and then the Chings will attack us since we are a definite threat to them.

Modi will be the next Zelensky going to world capitals to beg for armaments.

Our future will be die on the Himalayas trying to fight off these Chings, who will also be depleted enough to not take Taiwan.

Ironically there is a faction in PLA/CCP that wants exactly this, war with India "first", while Xi allegedly wants to focus on the big Taiwan anschluss.
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Insane exaggeration but I like it this way only. The incumbent is not abused enough for their kanjoosi. Need more and more e-lashkars mocking and abusing Ji and his minions on all the SM platforms of note - this gormint craves validation, the social media chatter will definitely reach them.
 
crazywithmath said:
Some musings from 2020;

"Positive vibes in pakiland"


View: https://twitter.com/warnesyworld/status/1219898192290111488

"Trust me, DGISPR does not pay me"


View: https://twitter.com/warnesyworld/status/1246028451615772672


View: https://twitter.com/warnesyworld/status/1233045817918881793
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Child fiddling & paid tours by DGISPR is a booming buisness in pakiland.
Not saying this mutt is one, but considering track records of agents of americunt deep state & the "positive vibes" he got there, who knows
 
this rafale drama will continuity in perpetuity as long as GoI doesnt release official numbers.

which if they don't want to do for operational reasons, fine.

what i wish was that every new claim wasn't picked up and amplified by indian blue check marks on twitter. i don't know if they just dont understand how SM works or its purposeful.

the correct response to a post you don't agree with on twitter is to ignore it. not repost it to your millions of followers.

im sure mr alan warnes will come out with something even more outrageous and annoying now that he sees the MASSIVE engagement he got from posting those lies
 
Freedom Thru Firepower said:
Child fiddling & paid tours by DGISPR is a booming buisness in pakiland.
Not saying this mutt is one, but considering track records of agents of americunt deep state & the "positive vibes" he got there, who knows
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Freedom Thru Firepower said:
Child fiddling & paid tours by DGISPR is a booming buisness in pakiland.
Not saying this mutt is one, but considering track records of agents of americunt deep state & the "positive vibes" he got there, who knows
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It's always been known this guy is a ispr shill this is the latest he has come up with
 

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