Operation Sindoor & Aftermath (65 Viewers)

[randombully]

Diverted towards other area, supersonic 100 meters not required as per radar evasion but pushing the airframe out of its structural limits as per maths basically.

I say for this scenario pilot took the Rafale beyond whatever sales pitch dasault provided to IAF

Just a reminder this is a scenario based on math


Only way my theory can be confirmed by folks living near the supersonic low altitude flight path from ambala to j&k , if ppl heard deafening thundering beyond 1 min it so its a supersonic flight with 100 meter or less low flying

OK it's math based, but why did you assume all this happened? That pilots did took it beyond it's structural limits?

 

[maximus777]

Yes, you are right. That is why decision has been taken to build 7.5 bunker buster and mount it on Agni or any other missile.

Not a fan of having bunker busters on a BM. BMs usually have a large CEP and unless loaded with a monstrous warhead (near low yield nuke capacity), it would require volleys of them and some luck to neutralize a bunker. Not very practical since volleys of BMs can be misconstrued as a pre-emptive nuke strike leading to disastrous consequences. A heavy-duty CM maybe a better option, but not sure if it's feasible to be used as a bunker buster both from a warhead size and kinetic energy/penetration perspectives.

 

[randombully]

Not a fan of having bunker busters on a BM. BMs usually have a large CEP and unless loaded with a monstrous warhead (near low yield nuke capacity), it would require volleys of them and some luck to neutralize a bunker. Not very practical since volleys of BMs can be misconstrued as a pre-emptive nuke strike leading to disastrous consequences. A heavy-duty CM maybe a better option, but not sure if it's feasible to be used as a bunker buster both from a warhead size and kinetic energy/penetration perspectives.

DF-15 | Missile Threat

The DF-15 (M-9; Dong Feng-15; NATO: CSS-6) is a short-range, road-mobile, solid-fueled ballistic missile developed by the People’s Republic of China. It has a maximum range of 600 – 900 km and can deliver a 500 – 750 kg payload, with conventional warheads optimized for precision strike...

missilethreat.csis.org

China first unveiled the DF-15C variant in 2013. This variant carries an earth-penetrating warhead.13 Distinguished by its rounded nose and extended length, Chinese media has cited DF-15C’s range as over 850 kilometers.14 Media reports additionally suggest that the warhead can penetrate 25 meters of reinforced concrete.15


Chinese bunker buster conventional ballistic missile.


As for accuracy.

Drdo bm-04

CEP less than 30 meters

 

[TopWatcher]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrMsyyCxK2s

 

[snakeeyes07]

DF-15 | Missile Threat

The DF-15 (M-9; Dong Feng-15; NATO: CSS-6) is a short-range, road-mobile, solid-fueled ballistic missile developed by the People’s Republic of China. It has a maximum range of 600 – 900 km and can deliver a 500 – 750 kg payload, with conventional warheads optimized for precision strike...

missilethreat.csis.org

China first unveiled the DF-15C variant in 2013. This variant carries an earth-penetrating warhead.13 Distinguished by its rounded nose and extended length, Chinese media has cited DF-15C’s range as over 850 kilometers.14 Media reports additionally suggest that the warhead can penetrate 25 meters of reinforced concrete.15


Chinese bunker buster conventional ballistic missile.


As for accuracy.

Drdo bm-04
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CEP less than 30 meters

Also South Korea pioneered this recently with Hyunmoo 5 and KTSSM.
Test video of KTSSM showing follow on missile going in the same hole.


View: https://x.com/mason_8718/status/1936103351911170202

 

[The Juggernaut]

View: https://x.com/BDUTT/status/1943237090478551214

When/How was her software updated?

Continued irrelevance, no payments at liberal side. Even every rupee is earned from hard work and there is no prestige at being their side. People may change. Other option is going batshit insane like that Ravish who is searching Hindenberg in some Hindon-Hindon River.

But got served by karma that once we were used to shocked how she used to go to BSF post and army bases and take Intel around 2015 and now there's nothing to think of her. Even we as hater don't have our attention to her existence.

 

[The Juggernaut]

Also prithvi missile with this BCES submunitions warhead .
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Oh my Lord, how cool it looks.
Think they are in air and missile splits in many pieces making rains of fire pillars.
Perfect Ramayan wali feeling aayegi.

 

[Cheepek]

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1943558248688206077?t=WsZwYifNxiB42tl2rinwOQ&s=19

 

[Tumba]

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1943558248688206077?t=WsZwYifNxiB42tl2rinwOQ&s=19

Doval sir needs to look into kanglu illegals angle from nat sec perspective and based on exec order start forced mass deportation of filthy subhuman kanglu inbreds not 10-20 not 1000 but throw 10000 per day…

I dont see BJP returning to power in 2029 this needs to be done before that

 

[randombully]

Oh my Lord, how cool it looks.
Think they are in air and missile splits in many pieces making rains of fire pillars.
Perfect Ramayan wali feeling aayegi.

I was wishing that we sneak in 1 or 2 prithvi's with BCES submunitions during op sindoor on Paki airbases.

Alas, while conventional warhead it's still under strategic forces command .
So it didn't see any action.


If we had a air launched missiles with this warhead, I'm sure IAF would have used it, given they even targeted Noor Khan and rawalpindi, that's how pissed IAF was.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

Drdo SAAW( smart anti air Field weapon) range 100km, warhead 80kg, total weight 125kg.
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Tara(Tactical Advanced Range Augmentation) glide bomb kit for 250kg, 450kg, 500kg bombs.
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Gaurav glide bomb, range 100+km, weight 1000kg.
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So full spectrum, from 125kg to 1 ton glide bombs, all with with range of ~100km.

Also.
120km pinaka being developed, 300km pinaka being developed.

We also have lots of cheap israeli weapons.
Like, Rampage air launch artillary rocket/tactical ballistic missile with max range of 250km.
Spice series, crystal maze series.



Ground launched cheap loitering munitions like haroop, harpy, domestic cheap loitering munitions.
Long Range domestic loitering munitions like sheshnaag in development.


So, lots of cheap/affordable options, from 100-300km range.


Also prithvi missile with this BCES submunitions warhead .
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Can Saaw be used to create a glsdb type rocket, capable of being launched from pinaka launcher. can be useful to hit like terror camps and troop/equipment concentration.

 

[randombully]

Can we create a GLSDB type rocket artillery using SAAW,

Technologically we easily can.

But will only be done if army demands it, for that It needs to feel the need for it.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

Technologically we easily can.

But will only be done if army demands it, for that It needs to feel the need for it.

Glsdb in Ukraine were being spoofed by Russians cause they use GPS, do we have any knowledge about if pakis have gps denial capabilty.

 

[randombully]

Glsdb in Ukraine were being spoofed by Russians cause they use GPS, do we have any knowledge about if pakis have gps denial capabilty.

They can buy it from chinese.

But from what see saw in operation sindoor, they either don't have those systems at all, or very limited quantity.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

thats some cwazy cwazy achievement in missile tech, lets import this

Drdo can do this, agni prime already has below 10M CEP, but I don't think govt or genrols have enough balls to strike piggystani nukes.

 

[snakeeyes07]

Glsdb in Ukraine were being spoofed by Russians cause they use GPS, do we have any knowledge about if pakis have gps denial capabilty.

They do, but with SAAW we have an IIR variant as well which is immune to jamming.

Regarding tactical missile such as newer lots of now have a ring laser gyroscope which also significantly limit the impact of GPS/GNSS jamming.

 

[randombully]

thats some cwazy cwazy achievement in missile tech, lets import this

No.

Ktssm 1 and hyunmoo v are very different missiles.
Ktssm 1 blk 1 has max range of 180km.
Blk2 has max range of 290km.
It has impressive 2m cep.
But it's lower supersonic in terminal phase, and higher supersonic top speed.
It has a 0.5 ton bunker buster warhead, that can penetrate few meters on reinforced concerete.


Hyunmoo 5 on the other hand, has 8 ton penetrating warhead, and CEP normally quoted of around 50m.



Than 2 m cep of ktssm 1 is not hard to achieve when its terminal speed is lower supersonic and top speed is higher supersonic.
having a CEP of 1m2 is much more impressive here given it's flight profile.

 

[snakeeyes07]

No.

Ktssm 1 and hyunmoo v are very different missiles.
Ktssm 1 blk 1 has max range of 180km.
Blk2 has max range of 290km.
It has impressive 2m cep.
But it's lower supersonic in terminal phase, and higher supersonic top speed.
It has a 0.5 ton bunker buster warhead, that can penetrate few meters on reinforced concerete.


Hyunmoo 5 on the other hand, has 8 ton penetrating warhead, and CEP normally quoted of around 50m.



Than 2 m cep of ktssm 1 is not hard to achieve when its terminal speed is lower supersonic and top speed is higher supersonic.
having a CEP of 1m2 is much impressive here given it's flight profile.

Yes, Hyunmoo 5 has a penetration capability of more than 100m RCC. Agni 5 adaption will be closer to this.

South Korea’s Hyunmoo-5 spotlighted after first combat use of GBU-57

South Koreas Hyunmoo-5 spotlighted after first combat use of GBU-57 GBU-57 offers mobility through free-fall; Hyunmoo-5 delivers greater destructive power with rocket propulsion

www.chosun.com

 

[snakeeyes07]

View: https://x.com/JaidevJamwal/status/1943543940696674562

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

No.

Ktssm 1 and hyunmoo v are very different missiles.
Ktssm 1 blk 1 has max range of 180km.
Blk2 has max range of 290km.
It has impressive 2m cep.
But it's lower supersonic in terminal phase, and higher supersonic top speed.
It has a 0.5 ton bunker buster warhead, that can penetrate few meters on reinforced concerete.


Hyunmoo 5 on the other hand, has 8 ton penetrating warhead, and CEP normally quoted of around 50m.



Than 2 m cep of ktssm 1 is not hard to achieve when its terminal speed is lower supersonic and top speed is higher supersonic.
having a CEP of 1m2 is much more impressive here given it's flight profile.

Another thing, S.korea doesn't need that much range, if things become fubar , then thier logical goal would to hit nuclear sites and whatever bunker Kim would be hiding in.