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Operation Sindoor and Aftermath
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Lmao, DG ISPR claims major paki cities under drone attack. At least 9 locations targeted.
Why is this happening to you, paijaans? You downed 763738 IAF jets yesterday, no?
Why is this happening to you, paijaans? You downed 763738 IAF jets yesterday, no?
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Drone warfare is very new,
I would not be that surprised if drones got through. I suspect it would the case for India as well.
Most countries air-defense is centered around planes and missiles. Drones pretty much came out of the syllabus.
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They wanted India to play champions trophy le IAF went there to play without invite
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Are kamikaze drone strikes a way of asking Pakistan to escalate?
From Chatgpt.
In effect, yes. They’re a calculated provocation. Here's why:
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1. Controlled Escalation — On India’s Terms
India is using suicide drones to hit valuable but limited targets (e.g., airfields, roads, radar). These:
Inflict damage without requiring manned jets (lower risk to personnel).
Cross symbolic boundaries—urban centers, not just border areas.
Signal dominance in precision warfare and readiness for more.
It’s like India is saying:
> “We can strike deep, anytime, and you still won’t respond in kind. How far are you willing to let us go?”
This is a challenge: escalate, or be humiliated.
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2. Testing Pakistan’s Threshold
India may not want full war, but it does want to test Pakistan’s appetite for pain and retaliation. Suicide drones:
Are hard to defend against consistently.
Cause psychological pressure on leadership and public.
Can provoke overreaction—or freeze the opponent in indecision.
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3. Undermining Pakistani Deterrence
The more India gets away with high-profile deep strikes without serious retaliation, the more it erodes Pakistan’s deterrence credibility—military and diplomatic.
So yes, suicide drones are:
A provocation wrapped in plausible deniability.
A high-stakes gamble to change the strategic rules of engagement.
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4. Diplomacy and Refusal to Budge
India’s refusal to ease up under diplomatic pressure suggests:
It believes time is on its side.
It wants to create a new normal where deep retaliatory strikes are part of the toolkit.
It may also be leveraging this to rally domestic support or signal strength to rivals (e.g., China).
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Bottom Line
Kamikaze drones are strategic poker chips: cheap, precise, and designed to either force Pakistan to escalate—or expose its unwillingness to do so, both of which benefit India's new assertive doctrine.
From Chatgpt.
In effect, yes. They’re a calculated provocation. Here's why:
---
1. Controlled Escalation — On India’s Terms
India is using suicide drones to hit valuable but limited targets (e.g., airfields, roads, radar). These:
Inflict damage without requiring manned jets (lower risk to personnel).
Cross symbolic boundaries—urban centers, not just border areas.
Signal dominance in precision warfare and readiness for more.
It’s like India is saying:
> “We can strike deep, anytime, and you still won’t respond in kind. How far are you willing to let us go?”
This is a challenge: escalate, or be humiliated.
---
2. Testing Pakistan’s Threshold
India may not want full war, but it does want to test Pakistan’s appetite for pain and retaliation. Suicide drones:
Are hard to defend against consistently.
Cause psychological pressure on leadership and public.
Can provoke overreaction—or freeze the opponent in indecision.
---
3. Undermining Pakistani Deterrence
The more India gets away with high-profile deep strikes without serious retaliation, the more it erodes Pakistan’s deterrence credibility—military and diplomatic.
So yes, suicide drones are:
A provocation wrapped in plausible deniability.
A high-stakes gamble to change the strategic rules of engagement.
---
4. Diplomacy and Refusal to Budge
India’s refusal to ease up under diplomatic pressure suggests:
It believes time is on its side.
It wants to create a new normal where deep retaliatory strikes are part of the toolkit.
It may also be leveraging this to rally domestic support or signal strength to rivals (e.g., China).
---
Bottom Line
Kamikaze drones are strategic poker chips: cheap, precise, and designed to either force Pakistan to escalate—or expose its unwillingness to do so, both of which benefit India's new assertive doctrine.
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I told you,pak has not used any missile till date on Indian installation.All they doing agressive CAP with few of them tried yesterday to cross one down rest somehow dispersed.
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Can you share a link of this please?
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Import another 100-200 Harop just lock target send them over all over Pakistan 
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Why Will India attack on TTP terrorist in KPK ? Looks like pak doing false flag attacks to blame us.
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Kamikaze drones may also be targeting HVTs
There was news on a Telegram Channel that our Forces are currently treating this as a Intelligence lead operation.
After the hit on 9 targets, HVTs not high enough to be allocated deep bunkers will get Mobile in panic. Drones are perfect to take out or demoralize them with minor collateral damage
There was news on a Telegram Channel that our Forces are currently treating this as a Intelligence lead operation.
After the hit on 9 targets, HVTs not high enough to be allocated deep bunkers will get Mobile in panic. Drones are perfect to take out or demoralize them with minor collateral damage
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Question about Paki response to the kamikaze drone strikes.
From Chagpt.
Here’s a strategic breakdown of Pakistan’s potential responses, with analysis of what each path could mean over the next few weeks:
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I. Pakistan’s Main Options
1. Do Nothing (Strategic Restraint)
What it means: Pakistan absorbs the strikes, issues diplomatic protests, and avoids further escalation.
Why they’d do it:
Avoiding full-scale war (military imbalance).
International pressure from China, OIC, or the U.S.
Economic crisis leaves them unprepared for prolonged conflict.
Risk:
Loss of deterrence credibility.
Public backlash and military embarrassment.
Emboldens India to continue deep strikes.
Outcome: Temporary calm but long-term strategic erosion.
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2. Symmetric Retaliation
What it means: Pakistan launches drone/missile attacks on Indian military or civilian infrastructure.
Targets: Airports in Punjab/Rajasthan, roads, radar or fuel depots.
Challenges:
Risk of Indian overreaction (like a strike on Islamabad or Karachi).
Possible loss of escalation control.
Outcome: Short war risk, international intervention likely. But it restores deterrence credibility.
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3. Asymmetric Response (Proxies & Cyber)
What it means:
Pakistan avoids direct strikes but responds through:
Terror attacks in Kashmir or metros.
Cyberattacks on Indian infrastructure.
Border infiltration, IEDs, or stoking unrest in Northeast India.
Risk:
India attributes it directly to Pakistan and escalates again—perhaps even deeper strikes or assassinations.
Outcome: Unstable months ahead, possibly prolonged shadow war.
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4. Escalation to the Edge (Show of Force)
What it means: Pakistan scrambles jets, mobilizes armor near the border, conducts missile tests, or hints at nuclear posturing.
Goal: Raise costs for further Indian action without fighting.
Risk:
Any misfire or false flag could trigger war.
Seen as bluff if not backed by real readiness.
Outcome: Dangerous brinkmanship. Temporary pause, high uncertainty.
II. India’s Likely Countermoves
If Pakistan does retaliate:
India may go deeper into urban areas, including power grids or ISI-linked sites.
It could mobilize conventional forces under Cold Start doctrine.
More diplomatic insulation—playing victim of terror again.
India might also drag China or UAE into backchannel talks, depending on how bold Pakistan’s next move is.
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III. International Reactions & Pressures
U.S. & EU: Push for de-escalation, but may side with India if terror link is shown.
China: Quietly urging Pakistan to avoid war while keeping its own borders stable.
Gulf States: Economic leverage over Pakistan may discourage retaliation.
UN: Likely to stay ineffective unless full war breaks out.
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Conclusion: The Next 2–3 Weeks
We are entering a gray zone conflict spiral:
If Pakistan chooses restraint: India reshapes the status quo with drone dominance.
If Pakistan retaliates: expect 4–10 days of rapid escalation, followed by ceasefire under international mediation.
If proxies get involved: months of asymmetric conflict inside India.
From Chagpt.
Here’s a strategic breakdown of Pakistan’s potential responses, with analysis of what each path could mean over the next few weeks:
---
I. Pakistan’s Main Options
1. Do Nothing (Strategic Restraint)
What it means: Pakistan absorbs the strikes, issues diplomatic protests, and avoids further escalation.
Why they’d do it:
Avoiding full-scale war (military imbalance).
International pressure from China, OIC, or the U.S.
Economic crisis leaves them unprepared for prolonged conflict.
Risk:
Loss of deterrence credibility.
Public backlash and military embarrassment.
Emboldens India to continue deep strikes.
Outcome: Temporary calm but long-term strategic erosion.
---
2. Symmetric Retaliation
What it means: Pakistan launches drone/missile attacks on Indian military or civilian infrastructure.
Targets: Airports in Punjab/Rajasthan, roads, radar or fuel depots.
Challenges:
Risk of Indian overreaction (like a strike on Islamabad or Karachi).
Possible loss of escalation control.
Outcome: Short war risk, international intervention likely. But it restores deterrence credibility.
---
3. Asymmetric Response (Proxies & Cyber)
What it means:
Pakistan avoids direct strikes but responds through:
Terror attacks in Kashmir or metros.
Cyberattacks on Indian infrastructure.
Border infiltration, IEDs, or stoking unrest in Northeast India.
Risk:
India attributes it directly to Pakistan and escalates again—perhaps even deeper strikes or assassinations.
Outcome: Unstable months ahead, possibly prolonged shadow war.
---
4. Escalation to the Edge (Show of Force)
What it means: Pakistan scrambles jets, mobilizes armor near the border, conducts missile tests, or hints at nuclear posturing.
Goal: Raise costs for further Indian action without fighting.
Risk:
Any misfire or false flag could trigger war.
Seen as bluff if not backed by real readiness.
Outcome: Dangerous brinkmanship. Temporary pause, high uncertainty.
II. India’s Likely Countermoves
If Pakistan does retaliate:
India may go deeper into urban areas, including power grids or ISI-linked sites.
It could mobilize conventional forces under Cold Start doctrine.
More diplomatic insulation—playing victim of terror again.
India might also drag China or UAE into backchannel talks, depending on how bold Pakistan’s next move is.
---
III. International Reactions & Pressures
U.S. & EU: Push for de-escalation, but may side with India if terror link is shown.
China: Quietly urging Pakistan to avoid war while keeping its own borders stable.
Gulf States: Economic leverage over Pakistan may discourage retaliation.
UN: Likely to stay ineffective unless full war breaks out.
---
Conclusion: The Next 2–3 Weeks
We are entering a gray zone conflict spiral:
If Pakistan chooses restraint: India reshapes the status quo with drone dominance.
If Pakistan retaliates: expect 4–10 days of rapid escalation, followed by ceasefire under international mediation.
If proxies get involved: months of asymmetric conflict inside India.
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When you know that the whole nation is about Photoshop & photo op... Nothing beyond that
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Drone attacks reported in 9 cities of Pokistan, Rawalpindi, Chhor, Kasur, Lahore, Karachi, Bawalpur. 12 blasts reported
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