Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (57 Viewers)

[Knowitall]

Forces anticipates some misadventure in coming weeks. If US manages to oust current Iranian regime from porki soil, then Munira may get unprecedented access to US defense equipments stationed in the porki air bases.


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Modi was played for a fool and for once i cannot help but realise it was literally not his fault.

Fucking polymarket and X detected Israeli movements towards a strike on Iran and you are telling me our NSA could not analyse that USA would come running and recommend inflicting maximum damage in the limited timeframe we had.

Because even with maximum damage US would have reined the whole thing due to their regime change op in Iran which has been on the cards since a decade.

MEA as always sold the nation. What a retarded statement Pakistani DGMO called us and we agreed to a ceasefire. Waah re gadho tomorrow beech war me he will stay stop and you will gladly return back to India.

Don’t even get me started on the whole post OP conference that never came. Makes me wonder if MEA bent the knee here too after uncle sam asked them to not leak details of damage done.

Entire govt was taken on a ride by compromised MEA and NSA.

 

[sunnyv]

It always was. CIA plan. I had posted earlier too. Plan was to draw Bharat into long war similar to Russia ukraine and impact economy
Little did they know of our powress and got surprised. We still have not used our full might. I do say our air defence is best in world.
Not to mention our Army. This UK won WW 1 and 2 because of our army only.

Anyways the whole purpose of creating Pak east and west was to have access to arabian sea and bay of Bengal. The partitions was planned years before other players were pawns. Same UK crown council is still part of deep state. So whole purpose of creating Pak was for it to act as irritant to Bharat and bog is down and help in their plan to break or make us weak.That shows confidence of pak and isi to do things it does as they know west will support them. It also explains why they get loans. Any other country in its place would have been bankrupt and broken by now.

Anyways coming to operation sindoor I think we may see act post Israel Iran conflict but what will be it's gosls- destroy more terrorist camps and hapig.or take Pok that is what I m not sure. But do think we willl take PoK(part of full) in this Modi's term itself .

No not CIA. It had something to do with 100 Paki Uniformed Men in Jaffar Express who were 72horrified. Pehlgam was Complete planning of ISI with help of China. Infiltration was already done in Peak winter, and Reccee was done in Feb+March after Train Hijack incident. Sat intel provided by chinese and encrypted satcom devices with custom made Huawei devices all imported from China. Intel sharing was done by CIA of incoming attack in march to Indian agencies. China wanted India to get involved in long conflict.
CIA thought conflict would be limited to POJ and POK. But when IAF started hitting Jacocabad, Sukur and especially RYK then US administration got worried as those 3 were part of Iran Plan. US admin has told Indian channels to tell Indian Intel to reduce the footprint in Baloch land. This is what is the sore point of Indian and US diplomacy. No assurance of Indian concerns. Purely Strategic and Business interest of US while India feels its interest are getting negated. This is a game of Tug of War being played in Disputed region of Balochistan between India, CHINA and US. India has strategic interests. China has business interests. US has both. And Pakis are Whores who anyone can fuck at their will.
Regards. Jai Hind

 

[concard]

I believe the development costs are either 100 billion Euros per party or 100 billion Euros consolidated to be split equally between all member countries.

The French members over at Strat Front believe DA will eventually go solo. It's just waiting for Macron to relinquish office. Till then they will continue with this charade.

Ideally what you say is true but the French have a different perspective. They've already amortised the costs of development of the Rafales. They're now reaping in the surplus.

As far as the FCAS goes that's still in the future . All these calculations will be done once they have decided to opt out of a collaboration. That's still some time away meaning time is a luxury we can't afford. Neither can the French but they haven't realised that yet.

I was quoting the bare minimum which is required to even build a decent prototype. Like you said it costs a bomb eventually with production and assembly lines all included. I don't think French government have that kind of money to give it to just one project while sacrificing other projects. Their pension system will collapse by 2040 at the earliest. Their retirement age was very low at 62 which they changed to 64. Most countries in Europe are slowly rising the retirement age to 70 as their system is at a breaking point with more people taking money out of the system than paying into it. So even retiring at 64 is very generous compared to other European countries. Let's not forget France is a trade deficit country.

France Trade Deficit Largest in 7 Months

France’s trade deficit widened to €8 billion in April 2025 from an upwardly revised €6.3 billion in March, exceeding market expectations of a €6 billion gap. This marks the largest trade shortfall since last September, as exports dropped 5.9% month-over-month to €49.3 billion, weighed down by a...

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They somewhat make it up with tourism industry which balances out. All in all French government does not have much money to shell out to Dassault. Rafale took it's first flight in 1986. It took a good 25 years to mature itself as a fighter. Now the scenario is very different. They don't have the luxury of waiting 25 years to build a reliable and mature 6th generation fighter which itself is a arduous task. Again quoting you time is a luxury neither we or the French have at the moment. They need money and they need it fast.

We need to make a move at the right time. First and foremost, either they share the source code or they modify the source code so that we can integrate our missiles into Rafale. After that we should test our waters and see whether they can deliver 54 Rafales which is 3 squadrons by 2028 at the earliest. For this they need to open new production line. If they need to deliver jets fast then they need to outsource some manufacturing to others like TASL. I hope GoI realises we need extra 54 Rafales to supplement our strength with Mig-21s done and dusted.

 

[shade2]

Modi was played for a fool and for once i cannot help but realise it was literally not his fault.

He's not played for a fool, he was threatened by the Orange Ape playing Bad Cop and our Yahoodi frens playing Good Cop to spare their Raand Pakistan or else the Orange baboon will chimp out with tariffs, sanctions and embargoes.

Our guy anyway didn't plan for Op Sindoor to be a long Final Solution to the Pakistani Question, he too wanted a ceasefire and not get pulled in too deep so as to not have the Ekanami impacted

Unfortunately the Amerisharts intervened before we could blast the piglets appropriately.

MEA, standard babooze and uniforms may all be sold out but our Leaderji isn't, however he cares about the ekanami far too much and this weakness is exploited by Amerisharts and Chings.

Pakis will give us a 2nd chance in the future i'm sure to finish what Op Sindoor started

 

[Knowitall]

He's not played for a fool, he was threatened by the Orange Ape playing Bad Cop and our Yahoodi frens playing Good Cop to spare their Raand Pakistan or else the Orange baboon will chimp out with tariffs, sanctions and embargoes.

Our guy anyway didn't plan for Op Sindoor to be a long Final Solution to the Pakistani Question, he too wanted a ceasefire and not get pulled in too deep so as to not have the Ekanami impacted

Unfortunately the Amerisharts intervened before we could blast the piglets appropriately.

MEA, standard babooze and uniforms may all be sold out but our Leaderji isn't, however he cares about the ekanami far too much and this weakness is exploited by Amerisharts and Chings.

Pakis will give us a 2nd chance in the future i'm sure to finish what Op Sindoor started

Controversial opinion but i will say it. Jaishankar is a lot bluster and a lot of hype.

Great as a spokesperson who you can send to shows and conferences absolutely useless at negotiations during wartime conflicts.

Be it balakot or op sindoor. MEA has failed to extract anything of significance from Pakistan bar unilateral actions.

A solid diplomatic corp would have hookwinked the Americans for 2 more days letting IAF cause additional widespread damage.

Your job as an advisor to the PM is to be bold and lead from the front in initiating maximalist goals for the country not indulging in chindi giri and saying Paki DGMO said stop and we did like this was gully fight.

 

[Azaad]

I was quoting the bare minimum which is required to even build a decent prototype. Like you said it costs a bomb eventually with production and assembly lines all included. I don't think French government have that kind of money to give it to just one project while sacrificing other projects. Their pension system will collapse by 2040 at the earliest. Their retirement age was very low at 62 which they changed to 64. Most countries in Europe are slowly rising the retirement age to 70 as their system is at a breaking point with more people taking money out of the system than paying into it. So even retiring at 64 is very generous compared to other European countries. Let's not forget France is a trade deficit country.

France Trade Deficit Largest in 7 Months

France’s trade deficit widened to €8 billion in April 2025 from an upwardly revised €6.3 billion in March, exceeding market expectations of a €6 billion gap. This marks the largest trade shortfall since last September, as exports dropped 5.9% month-over-month to €49.3 billion, weighed down by a...

tradingeconomics.com

They somewhat make it up with tourism industry which balances out. All in all French government does not have much money to shell out to Dassault. Rafale took it's first flight in 1986. It took a good 25 years to mature itself as a fighter. Now the scenario is very different. They don't have the luxury of waiting 25 years to build a reliable and mature 6th generation fighter which itself is a arduous task. Again quoting you time is a luxury neither we or the French have at the moment. They need money and they need it fast.

The French haven't realised it is the sentence I framed in the same context as the ordinary Brits didn't realise the pickle they'd get into when they voted yes for Brexit.

I'm sure most politicians too underestimated the full lmpact of Brexit on the economy. Wuhan Virus Pandemic & the war in Ukraine came as a bonus.

The French are in a similar situation since they've packed off from their neo colonial empire in Africa. It's just that the people at large haven't understood the full implications of the move.

As I mentioned earlier Macron is determined FCAS continues with ze Germans to prevent further slide of European unity by dependence on US on platforms & US hegemony like it is with their supplies of the F-35s across Europe.

Intentions are noble but they haven't factored in ground realities namely German intransigence. The latter are notoriously bad partners which is the reason UK didn't even approach them for their GCAP project.

We need to make a move at the right time. First and foremost, either they share the source code or they modify the source code so that we can integrate our missiles into Rafale. After that we should test our waters and see whether they can deliver 54 Rafales which is 3 squadrons by 2028 at the earliest. For this they need to open new production line. If they need to deliver jets fast then they need to outsource some manufacturing to others like TASL. I hope GoI realises we need extra 54 Rafales to supplement our strength with Mig-21s done and dusted.

They may well share the source codes but at an extremely high cost that too after extensive negotiations which takes time - a luxury we can ill afford at this time as I pointed out earlier & money which our banias aren't willing to shell out especially if you consider the fact that the French are extremely mercenary in their dealings & will charge an arm & leg even otherwise for their wares. And these are their crown jewels we're talking about.

Then again without their source codes the entire Rafale deal makes no sense since their upgradation program is taking into account their threat scenarios not ours meaning what we seek today is what they'd be integrating in the early to mid 2030s like for instance the ARM . Now we've the Rudram series. Ideally we ought to offer it to the French in a quid pro quo. But we aren't or at least there's no information of it in the public domain.

In the meanwhile the French are developing their own ARMs. Then there's the issue of integration which the French want to do themselves so that they can charge us a bomb.

Moreover there's no guarantee they'd be willing to share their source codes in the first place for the downsides are terrible. What happens if there's a leak like in the case of the Scorpenes ? Their entire air assets would be compromised & I don't mean merely their AF , there's also their Naval Aviation to consider.

 

[Viper316]

Absolutely Based.

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We expect such aggressive statements from top stakeholders to shut the propoganda breeders. Indus water treaty is the lifeline of terroristan, we won 6-0 saarr propoganda wont work anymore to fool pak awam.

 

[shade2]

Controversial opinion but i will say it. Jaishankar is a lot bluster and a lot of hype.

Great as a spokesperson who you can send to shows and conferences absolutely useless at negotiations during wartime conflicts.

Be it balakot or op sindoor. MEA has failed to extract anything of significance from Pakistan bar unilateral actions.

A solid diplomatic corp would have hookwinked the Americans for 2 more days letting IAF cause additional widespread damage.

Your job as an advisor to the PM is to be bold and lead from the front in initiating maximalist goals for the country not indulging in chindi giri and saying Paki DGMO said stop and we did like this was gully fight.

You are correct, he is incompetent as an MEA or doing the actual job of diplomacy inspite of being an actual IFS.

The actual IFS is also sem2sem, they seem to suck at doing behind the scenes diplomacy, look at the chings, turks or pakis.


I only don't believe that this nibba who is an employee of the Leaderji has any leverage around veto'ing Leaderji's decisions like some here peddle, doesn't matter if Americans have him by the bols via his two America settled children or whatever.

Only weakness of Leaderji is his precious ekanami and Industrialization goals for India,
Everyone and their dog knows this and takes advantage of it

No baboons, suave IFS mantris speaking 4 language and roasting goras in conferences or uniforms have anything on leaderji than can compel him to ((( obey ))), if that was the case you wouldn't have them trying to regime change Modi since 2014 and subjecting the country to diplomatic and other pressure as we saw with the GE engine drama, Pannu Nijjer dramas, etc

 

[Viper316]

Controversial opinion but i will say it. Jaishankar is a lot bluster and a lot of hype.

Great as a spokesperson who you can send to shows and conferences absolutely useless at negotiations during wartime conflicts.

Be it balakot or op sindoor. MEA has failed to extract anything of significance from Pakistan bar unilateral actions.

A solid diplomatic corp would have hookwinked the Americans for 2 more days letting IAF cause additional widespread damage.

Your job as an advisor to the PM is to be bold and lead from the front in initiating maximalist goals for the country not indulging in chindi giri and saying Paki DGMO said stop and we did like this was gully fight.

I agree without preconditions on the table accepting the ceasefire was a blunder. Must have demanded extradition of 26/11 preparators. We must be have forced pak govt to give a public statement that ceasefire call unilaterally came from pak DGMO.

 

[Knowitall]

You are correct, he is incompetent as an MEA or doing the actual job of diplomacy inspite of being an actual IFS.

The actual IFS is also sem2sem, they seem to suck at doing behind the scenes diplomacy, look at the chings, turks or pakis.


I only don't believe that this nibba who is an employee of the Leaderji has any leverage around veto'ing Leaderji's decisions like some here peddle, doesn't matter if Americans have him by the bols via his two America settled children or whatever.

Only weakness of Leaderji is his precious ekanami and Industrialization goals for India,
Everyone and their dog knows this and takes advantage of it

No baboons, suave IFS mantris speaking 4 language and roasting goras in conferences or uniforms have anything on leaderji than can compel him to ((( obey ))), if that was the case you wouldn't have them trying to regime change Modi since 2014 and subjecting the country to diplomatic and other pressure as we saw with the GE engine drama, Pannu Nijjer dramas, etc

For all his ekanami ka keeda his handling of economy has been average at best.

Absolute chindigiri in spending no overall boom in manufacturing levels FDI falling rupee sliding no labour laws or structural reforms. If IT sector goes bust before leaderji retires he will be hounded on the roads.

 

[londonparistokyo]

Ya'll Nibbiars we could had it back then but as always brown sepoys.


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Unfortunately many such moles continue to exist to this day,

Every time They are there

 

[vishmoon]

Ik the consensus on this forum is that babus are all pretty much all junk, especially at the higher echelons of the administrative apparatus, but the following podcast is quite different tbh. A lot of the things he said are exactly what some of the members have said on this thread, and while anything can be up for debate, I think everyone should at least first listen to what our Defence Secy has to say, assuming that it is in line with GoI's actions and intent.


View: https://youtu.be/XXm5zUJSg6I?si=oSTKRBiQiAoBFI5O

Thats because even among 100 babus there are 5-10 good ones and Modi govt has knack of finding better ones for crucial jobs.

 

[fire starter]

Hell yeah brahmos for peace Prize.

View: https://x.com/GabbbarSingh/status/1936303322366960127?t=9xRnUXmBYvbDUti8aBCrsA&s=19

 

[shade2]

Hell yeah brahmos for peace Prize.

View: https://x.com/GabbbarSingh/status/1936303322366960127?t=9xRnUXmBYvbDUti8aBCrsA&s=19

The orange swine doesn't realize that the Piss Prize is only awarded to deep state kuttas



If he was one he'd already get it, or perhaps he has to wag his tail some more infront of his new masters

 

[asl001]

People underestimate the ego of trump,and people underestimate his ego pampering
Pakjabis seems to have cracked the code,they would accept humiliation for short time in order to get favoured by trump and US
This is why the next conflict would be interesting

Modi ji has been doing this since his first day.

 

[neelaslayer]

View: https://x.com/RodiumInsights/status/1936153777519681698?t=pdxnYqbJm3INHhM_GpSkfQ&s=19

 

[Adibot]

Unfortunately many such moles continue to exist to this day,

Every time They are there

Then why not create a group like TSD to hunt moles just like those ones?
Government lacks the spine to do that

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

Please pray that happens .. seriously pray for this they attack India because that would give us excuse to go after them

India don't even need excuse now. India will hit whenever it has intel about terrorists hideout in Pakistan. This time India will hit terrorists and airbases both at the same time.

 

[asl001]

Modi ji has been doing this since his first day.

By his first day, i meant, Trump's first day in the first term.

 

[Ultraman]

how many loans are they gonna take to buy this

like others said , should have gone full blast during op sindoor . golden opportunity lost . truly masterstroke of all time