Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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We're supposed to be shopping for the Voronezh EW & OTH radar system as per recent reports.
I had missed those stories but it seems that you are correct. $4.5 billion? Interesting proposed location of the radar - Chitradurga, Karnataka. I suppose if you have a 6000-8000 km supposed range, it really doesn't matter where you put it and putting it in interior Karnataka in a location which is heavily protected because of the presence of other secret facilities makes good sense.
 
DRDO SAAW is pretty much going to be the Anti Runway Bomb. Based on few launcher photos we seen, our planes at optimal level can carry 4 SAAW or more than depends on requirement. Based on that it will swarm attack on runway.

In Ops Sindoor we decided to use one big bomb to rattle pigs. But in full blown kinetic action, I believe SAAW will be launched in large scale and take the runway at multiple areas.
True, but in my opinion, a 250kg HSLD bomb with JSR Dynamics' range augmentation kit would be a better option for runway busting as they are more specialised for that role. It's a lot better to explode the bomb ~1.5-2 meters UNDER the concrete runway rather than ON the runway.

The former will churn up the soil beneath the runway and displace a much larger area of concrete surface, which will make repairing all but impossible, thereby necessitating a complete reconstruction of the runway (if you manage to hit it at 6-8 places along its length that is), which would effectively put the airbase out of commission for basically the duration of the war.

But the latter will just create large craters on the runways, which can be repaired comparatively easily.

PS - If my memory serves me right, a single Su-30 can be configured to carry up to 24 SAAWs in one go (or 32, was it??).
 
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We told them and everyone openly we are coming for revenge . They knew we are coming to fck them . We bombed them in one of the most secured air space with western and chinese radars. Our mission was complete. Though they are silent on it , from the looks of it scalp was extensively used in the operation . I am nt sure about meteor . We got near stealth long range missile up to 550km and a air to air missile having no escape zone of atleast 60 km which is 3 times the no escape zone of aim 120 . Rafale is a good deal and success of the mission testify it.
 
Why no action is being taken on this sellout? Clearly he is on PLA payroll.
In whole video didn’t mentioned even once about 9-10th May
If PAF was that strategically strong where was it hiding with tail between his legs while IAF spat on not just 1 or 2 but 11 airbases.
They've an army on the keyboard bro.. Nothing can be done until we start to do the same.
Their army saves their image through such manipulative, delusional stories to retain their power. It's their big time investment.
You can block one, there will be 100 others popping up.
Only by playing like them can stop them.
Govt should've banned him a long ago.
He's a CCP apologist & he roams around Pakistan meeting big heads. If it's not a res flag then what is!?
 
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Bhai wannar,

Russia is in a war and they have no money. The money they have is for people to survive and for ukrain war.

Also the development was not going because of nozzle and al51 . Now both of them are coming up nice.

Which fifth gen fighter is war proven ? Only su57 and f35 have been used a few time. And f35 facing lots of problem with maintenance.

So people who giving this argument of : not war proven are them selves blinded.
All of the above is a con, not a pro of buying SU57s en-masse.
I'm a bit confused on how exactly SU57s fulfill India's needs according to you here. It's not just about it being not "war proven". Its about zero support in terms of spares and untested design.

IAF has already rejected SU57. I don't see any reason to differ from their opinion (or use).

I honestly fail to understand this obsession with fifth gen planes.

Maybe you know better so you could tell me-
What exactly is the mission profile these fifth gen fighters are supposed to fill that they're so crucial that India should scramble for untested designs with no full aspect stealth or a solid supply chain?

Also they don’t get western hardware because they are fighting against them.

As a Jv we will not have same level of problems.

Ab tum agar kuch paisa doge apne plot bech ke toh wo bhi le lenge russi toh. Bech de bhai desh ke naam pe.

Aur ab jab ye su57 m bahu sa banke aa jayega toh tum sabse pehle profile pic lagao ge.
Bhai, tu bechayn hai, tu hi bech plot etc. Main toh nahi keh raha ye kharidne ko aur na main ejaculate karta hun taiyaron pe.
Tu taiyar ho ja, tab sochunga. Tera DP bhi laga dunga idhar heart laga ke.

I think DRDO has a better idea today of what they require vis-a-vis 5th gen tech.

If the Russians are going to give us decent tech wrt certification and mass production like advanced additive manufacturing, help establish test facilities, etc then I don't care if we go ahead with the Su-57s.

I'm sure the DRDO and the government know what they want and what they have to extract out of the Russians.
This is the only case it'd make sense to get those.

Honestly, if India could just manufacture it's own 4th gens, that'd be a way more solid long term strategy than getting a fifth gen jet from some nation which will either use it as a leash or go bankrupt suddenly when leaders swap (I strongly believe Russia will suffer terribly when Putin goes out of power).

I feel like the announcement of F47 has freaked a lot of people. I'm sure some people are of the mindset here that "America's already on 6th gen and we don't even have a few 5th gens".
Wait till China announces it's own sixth gen "Extra Dotted Vigorous Dragon" jet.

People need to understand. We're not getting left behind in the arms race because we aren't buying planes from other nations.
We are not IN the arms race here.

When Turkey was refused the F35, they immediately started working on KAAN and their drone industry to fill in the gap. Now, I dislike Turkey as much as everyone else here but the rise in their indigenous capability is undeniable.
This when their economic growth is slowing down.

Make do with the current situation. This is the best time.
India's not at war, WE KNOW it will be at war, start fixing things.

No other times leaves as little excuse and as much incentive as now.

This constant bandaging with a little french jets here, a little russian jets there and a little American parts here and British parts there has to end.
Stitch it up even if it's tender for a little but let it heal. Even if the stitch isn't perfect, at least the next one will be better.
 
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either in this thread or IAF thread, there was a discussion on efficacy of SU-30 MKI. my reading of a few posts that caught my attention gave the impression that those posts were implying that SU-30 came out of the box fully suited for IAF's requirements.

whether it is SU-30 which ultimately became SU-30 MKI or jaguar or T-90 or T-72 or rafale etc., just a reminder to our newer members that none of imported maal comes as perfect fit for Indian military requirements, it is always the case that respective forces add their own modifications and integrations to ensure foreign maal caters to Indian scenarios. sometimes modifications are relatively easy, sometimes a bit harder/costly depending on the technology, but be assured there will be a indigenous component associated with it .

since AD is talk of the town, within AD you have seen live demonstration of how integration happens in op-sindoor. and integration means time in years, resource and money over and above acquisition process.
 
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Russia is our friend Saar. 1971 Saar.
Friends till both are mutually accepted beneficiaries.
France, Japan & Israel are the only true friends of India. The rest are seasonal.
France tried to stop india's missile development.
Japan sanctioned india after nuke tests
Israel used to spy against india and help china build nato tech weapons.

India is too big and strong to have friends we can have our puppets like china has pakistan,usa has israel.
 
Russia is our friend Saar. 1971 Saar.
Friends till both are mutually accepted beneficiaries.
France, Japan & Israel are the only true friends of India. The rest are seasonal.
Even these are not 'friends', lmao.

But it is cringe pro max to see the resident Putin simp cucks on the Ukraine Russia war thread. I lose braincells every time I visit that thread.
 
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Super happy if this happens.

@BON PLAN we get the Rafales at a discount. Meanwhile a future threat is delayed by a

Nothing to surprise over here just ruski media sucking chindi propaganda as usua


Everyone watches out for their interest. There are no friends only interests. India has substantially reduced purchasing Russian weapons and is opting for western arms increasingly. That obviously means Russia needs to find other markets. Do not be surprised if Russians sell weapons to Pakis. At the end of the day the only way to exert major defense power is through a very large and advanced military industrial complex and gigantic domestic economy. But I think the RT news is FAKE. I don’t think they will be this obvious with their propaganda. Someone check if a lunatic porki or chinki bot is behind all this.
 
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